It's this good enough for an indie fighter?
>>2298301
good? no.
good enough? probably.
Study some pixel art tutorials as well as anatomy. A dedicated pixel art forum like pixeljoint would be best for you.
>>2298301
depends on how it's animated
if you animated dog shit well you could have a decent fg character
>>2298383
Right now I quit on the idea of even animating this, is too much effort.
Right now I just want to download spriter and see what I can do.
I'm not even a pro artist and I'm hoping some coder will help me.
>>2298383
I've seen similar looking sprites animated for Mugen. It does not look any better in motion.
>pointychin/10
>>2298388
What are your plans? Have someone code and do the art for it? I dabbled a bit in programming games and fighting games is probably the hardest genre to do right. Maybe start with a simple dungeon crawler, you can do that without a lot of programming knowledge. Look at Libgdx or something even simpler like RPGCreator
>>2298301
No.
Learn to spriteart. Androidarts has a great tutorial
>>2298301
Nigger, stop ripping others off. That's Athena from KOF.
>>2298913
My current plan is to make the art completely.
maybe I should use a 3D model as reference (pic related is also mine, but using a 3D model).
Maybe I can get a programmer in SRK or TIGsource or even Reddit or facebook.
>>2298969
So?
I didn't claimed it was even original bro.
I start making a fight game too
At this resolution OP all animations will cost a fortune. Here is the prices:
http://2dwillneverdie.com/blog/how-much-do-sprites-cost/
This website is great for references
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/iori-a.html
>>2299046
That uppercut is extremely anemic. you should move his body under the bunch an uppercut doers not come from the shoulder, it comes from the rotation of the waist into the punch. It doesn't travel in an upward arc, it goes almost straight up. Even the Shouryuken gets this right, as dumb as it is.
>>2299043
>So?
>I didn't claimed it was even original bro.
I know you didn't. I'm saying to you stop creating vidya fan fiction and do your own shit.
>>2299070
there's nothing wrong with making derivate art, you know.
>>2299071
An illustration is one thing, an entire fighting game is another. Why create an entire game based on other people's stuff when you can create your own? Unless it's a newsground parody, I don't see why.
>>2299072
the athena sprite wasn't really the finished product, it was simply a test of my skills.
I would rather simply make a preteen version of athena + Gato's sister from garou + Last blade loli if I wanted some originality.
>>2299072
there you go, a completely original and not a clearly inspired/ripoff of snk lolis ready to be taken into blender.
>>2298301
>>2299043
STOP. Before you do any more work on fighting game sprites, go look at CAPCOM's work from Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Capcom Vs SNK 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3 and Street Fighter 3rd Strike.
The 2D animation in these titles are some of the best in any game or genre, and the sprites are 100% grounded in good animation before anything else.
Just about every frame in every animation is full of energy and eye-pleasing silhouette, and most importantly, TIMING is a huge factor, so every frame is specifically tailored for each animation to fit.
I am a huge animation fan, and I honestly think that Capcom in the late 90s/ early 2000s did better work than any other studio (game or not) could've done.
Pretty much no other media has come close to capturing action, style, and momentum in a fight like they did.
Don't wast your time producing stiff, weak drawings like >>2299046
>>2299100
>relying on the lazy and easy shortcuts
You don't want to make it, right?
>>2299126
>they're dependant on good animation skills that aren't related to good drawing, but stuff like rythm and line of action.
Are you saying that rhythm and line of action are not related drawing, because if so, you are fucking high.
>>2299131
I didn't wanted to mean that.
my point was that they're not dependant on having excelent drawing skills, simply some basic stick figure can be enough if it has the animation foundamentals.
I say they're not drawing relevant because I'm planing on using a 3D model, so the animation sketches being amazing drawings is pretty irrelevant.
>>2299607
I mean I know they are amateurs animators, but look at these godlike sprites from capcom putting us all to shame.
>>2299667
>>2299670
capcom was good at what they did
>>2299671
French bread (melty blood and uniel) are also sprite animation geniouses, able to transmit a lot of life into their sprites without the need of a million frames per attack
>>2299676
Too bad their character designs are boring.
>>2299676
You shut your whore mouth and look at this gif
>>2299680
>comparing CAPCOM at its arcade golden prime time to an almost-indie poverty company that counts with like only one animator.
anyways, my point is that you can still do cool animated sprites with very low budget and time if you properly connect every frame correctly.
SNK at its prime where also sprite animation gods, damn I miss them too much.
>>2299683
>>2299683
I didn't compare them, you did.
All I've been saying is that fighting game sprites are nothing if the animation doesn't come first. If anything we agree.
>>2298301
good enough is up to context.
if you want to make a pile of shit anything is good enough.
if you want to justify a 3 billion dollar budget, you'd better make it better than the graphics in evolve.
Figure it out yourself
>comparing a fucking team of 10 plus japanese artists in the 90's works with a single person
>>2300118
No, you are right. They should just ignore any previous work and never study the masters and just stick to the flat, stiff one-dimensional crap they are spewing.
ESPECIALLY in a thread where they are asking for feedback.
Fucking hugbox /ic/ wanting to protect the feelings of crappy artists because no one has the motivation to get better.
>>2299686
WHAT THE FUCK ?
nobody can be that good at pixelart! unless its rotoscoped 3D model.
>>2300131
That was the power of the CPS3 system. Unfortunately, it was also during the sunset of arcades in America, so most people didn't see it.
>>2300137
so how was it made? are they frame by frame made sprites or 3D models painted over?
>>2300147
I can't find the pictures I used to have saved, but
everything was drawn first, then artists took those frames and did pixel line-art, then they were colored flat, then shaded.
>>2300159
oh! would love to see the pictures. too bad you lost them
>>2300167
you can see some of the hand-drawn keyframes for Jill Valentine here on the right
I used to have one that had the drawings from Chun-Li's and Yun's animations, but that was on an old computer that is now gone.
>>2300180
I cut out a few of the corresponding sprites for comparison
>>2300192
>>2300192
No, I am pretty sure that is a leftover from the sheet I ripped it from
Whole sheet with most of her animations if anyone is interested in seeing
>>2299120
>Don't wast your time producing stiff, weak drawings like >>2299046
Even if im a capcom fan and actually use their animation style in my own stuff that i sell for games..
You sound like some weaboo.
1) This animation >>2299046
is completely different from Capcom stuff.
2) not all animation should look like capcom stuff
3) not all characters should look like anime shit
I dont see anything bad in that animation except for it's a faggot Stalin and im from russia so i hate him so much.
It honesly looks okay to me because it seems like a tiny cute sprite for mobile fighting game.
Drawing capcom like animation for small games i s a retarded idea. Nobody would spend that amount of time and money for it nowadays.
I know there are skullgirls but i dont play it because it's too "waifu faggotry" to my taste so i cant judge their "capcom level" of animation.
The only good choice nowadays is to use skeletal/deformation animation similar to picrelated.
Or draw frame by frame but make it simple.
>>2300228
God your work must suck if you think that Stalin gif is good animation.
I'm not here to tell you how to make a successful phone game with microtransactions and a "like us on Facebook" button. You want to make crap minimalist pixel art with tweens and distorts? Go right ahead!
I was just advising that maybe you should look at how dependent good sprites are on animation fundamentals, like gesture and timing as demonstrated in this gif
Where you autists got the idea that you need 60fps and 10 animators is beyond me.
And how do you call me a weeabo if anime is notoriously some of the worst animation on the market because of how many corners they have to cut to keep production costs low. I have a strong feeling you know very little about actual animation.
I mean if you aren't going to draw the animations, why not just go with modular animation and save yourself the trouble? Why even ask for feedback about your drawings if you aren't trying to actually animate?
>>2300303
If you compare the artworks from the 90's and the current day youll see the amount of talent they have are magnitudes higher back then.
Because back then, 2d makes money. These days these artists have transferred to either 3d or works in anime.
2d literally have no future in gaming. Its a fucking pain to make, takes shittons of resources and time, and the worst part, nobody gives a fuck about them.
>>2300350
>2d literally have no future in gaming.
laughed so hard at this moron.
clearly a highschooler or student
>Anime
stop comparing everything to this shitty thing
>>2300228
the stalin animation needs a ton of work. the animation you posted is terrible. deformation animation looks terrible.
how do you expect people to take you seriously?
>>2300366
>the animation you posted is terrible
Stopped reading here.
Go back your your "waifu animated" thread and continue scribbling your anime cartoon your will never finish.
>>2300350
3D animation highly dependent on the same fundamentals as 2D (which was my whole point of even mentioning Capcom, by the way.) You have no idea what you are talking about if you think a good 3D animator has no sense of weight, gesture, and timing.
Yet here you are, trying to say that you need a whole team of artists to understand what any good animator should already know.
>>2300372
Lol at these faggots who think that 2D animators worship anime.
It's so fucking stupid I will fully admit to getting baited if that is the case.
>>2300372
>Go back your your "waifu animated" thread
I honestly don't even know what that means.
>continue scribbling your anime cartoon your will never finish.
Not really into anime, and I don't see what this anime strawman has to do with the shitty animation you posted.
>>2300395
They think that we think the epitome of 2D animation is anime.
That's like saying that the epitome of digital art is Sakimichan.
>>2300390
>3D animation highly dependent on the same fundamentals as 2D
Very true, starting 3D animation actually helped me a lot with drawing when it comes to poses and movement. It's like I can see the bones in my mind now and instead of "it just looks wrong" I get what is actually wrong.
>>2300364
fuck yourself
do you see capcom making 2d games anymore?
stop being so delusional and install zbrush
>>2300416
>Install Zbrush
>Just go install that $500+ product right now
>No biggie you don't need to eat this month right?
2D animation has way less overhead than 3D, and it always will.
>>2300422
>implying anyone on /ic/ pays for software
>not sailing the high seas
>>2300416
>fuck yourself
>do you see capcom making 2d games anymore?
>stop being so delusional and install zbrush
Why i even bother browsing /ic/. I havent seen professional artists sinse..i dont know. 2010 may be.
It's all about retarded school weebfags now.
>>2300427
>implying anyone on /ic/ pays for software
>implying when you start working on project, client wont buy you a new version of software or sends you a link that you can use
Git gut.
>>2300390
>>2300395
>>2300399
>>2300405
>>2300416
>BWAA BWAAA M-MUH SPESHUL STUFF BWAA BWAA
>FUCK YOUSELF
>KILL YOURSELF!!
>YOUR STUFF IS SHITTY BWAA BWAAA
honestly. how you even excpet people taking you seriously?
All that you say is extremely immature, from your butthurt attitude to naive view
>>2300438
just stop posting. you've already made an ass of yourself an no amount of greentext strawman can save you at this point.
>>2300440
>you've already made an ass of yourself
But i didn't From all these people who posted here, it's only i who work in a game industry as a 2D artist and animator.
Im just making fun of your pathethic/le edgy complains about stuff that dont fit to your shitty idea of videogame industry.
And no 2D is not "dying".
If you said this:
>>2300350
>2d literally have no future in gaming.
Then congratulations. You are retard strawman.
>>2300443
>Im just making fun of your pathethic/le edgy complains about stuff that dont fit to your shitty idea of videogame industry.
no, you're just pretending you know what everyone else's idea are, conflating every other poster on this board, and making
>BLUH BLUH MUH ANIME
shitposts.
>>2300228
the animation you posted isn't bad because it's not anime, it's bad because it's undynamic and lazily drawn. For the uppercut you literally just have his torso and head stay still while his arm does an awkward hook animation.
>>2300438
God, this is what your argument has deteriorated into...
You know what, you can have this win. I can tell you need it.
>>2300448
This guy gets it.
How is it so hard for him to understand this, though?
>>2300449
>>2300448
>>2300446
Keep being butthurt. It's fun.
>>2300450
>>2300449
>>2300448
>>2300446
How one faggot can samefag so hard. That's just pathetic.
Literally a buttmad insecure weeb.
>>2300468
Keep being butthurt. It's fun.
PS:
>I would post a screen shot
>this nigga actually cares so much he would make a screenshot
>>2300457
>>2300476
He's already resorted to the internet equivalent to putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "lalalala"
I'm sure he'll just shout louder now.
