YOU! Yes, YOU RIGHT THERE! I don't give one fuck if you're tired, uninspired, masturbating, seeking advice, or feeling as if you will never be good enough! You will STOP! NOW! I want you to DRAW! You must draw something - anything - and make even the slightest improvement! Then, you will do it again. Not because I'm telling you, but because it's the reason you picked up a pencil in the first place.
>>2255220
What if I told you I am coloring a butt naked Miku right now while listening to hard trance techno?
>>2255227
FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS ANON
B-b-but I don't know how to paint or draw clothes or anything really. And I really want to color my lewd drawings but I'm shit man
>>2255232
FOLLOW YOUR FUCKING DREAMS MAN
also atleast you're aware of what you need to improve upon. Use that as even more motivation because in the case of art like that you really want to create a product that is aesthetically pleasing to yourself, and nothing creates that more than actually spending time and working on it.
Even if it takes 50 hours to render the perfect nipple.....especially if takes 50 hours to render the perfect nipple
>>2255220
Motivation aint shit.
Its habit
>>2255236
Motivationanon, that's just the tip of the iceberg of what I need to work on though. There's proportions, (self confidence), animals, etc. so much I need to work on. Then there's comparing myself to other artists even though i know they had to work years to get good. It still feels like I'm not working hard enough or I'm doing something wrong. How do you do it anon? Keeping positive and motivational all the time.
>>2255244
My trick is to be so depressed that you NEED to work on something constantly to use the focus as a barrier and coping mechanism. Like running around to stave off being tired.
The best trick to getting shit done is actually getting up (or in this case sitting down) and putting in the work regardless of how you feel. At some point it just becomes second nature.
As for not working hard enough, compared to what? To others? To an imaginary status quo? Downtime is as useful as time allocated to productivity. Just work on what you can when the idea pops into your head. Don't believe the christians, deth metal isn't the work of the devil lathargy is.
>>2255269
I guess you've got a point. I just wish i was at a better place is all. Working hard enough with compared to others I mean. I fear I'll either end up in an /ic/ cringe thread or be like those dA artists who never improve despite drawing for a decade. I lack confidence anon, and I some times wonder if I'll make it. But something tells me you believe I will and will say I should just believe in myself. Whatever you do to be so positive I want to know anon. I could use it.
>>2255220
mfw motivanon is procrastinating on his own studies to do this.
>>2255227
>>2255232
>>2255306
Eyyy this guy gets it
>>2255302
Drugs
>>2255307
F-f-fine, I'll do it. I will work until my arm falls off and I die a painful death. I will stop dreaming and start doing. I'll hate myself and feel awful about the result but I'll keep going. It's gonna kill me isn't it?
>>2255314
Well I mean we all die eventually for some reason.
Never find this shit motivating.
Even if you will be captured by IGIL people would be motivate you
>EVERYTHING GOING TO BE OKAY FIGHTO WE WAITING YOU HURR AMERICA WILL SAVE YOU
It's too silly. Better to show list of 100 self-taught artists who had no talent, art education, rich parents and never drew from childhood
>>2255329
Too much work. Much easier to write up some bullshit.
>>2255329
Motivation has to come from within, what is your goals with doing something?
https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_what_makes_us_feel_good_about_our_work?language=en
Recognition & meaning! We want people to recognize our efforts and do meaningfull (to us) life work.
I paint because I'm a hedonist and find the act itself enjoyable. If I don't like doing it I don't do it. Just work with what you have and find joy in that.
>>2255338
I can't take this bullshit seriously, sorry.
>>2255349
The science is solid.
If you can't extrapolate how this ties into personal motivation then maybe you need to sit down and look at some grass for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbXvaE39wM
I know this pain
Why do lock yourself up in these chains?
No one can change your life except for you
Don't ever let anyone step all over you
Just open your heart and your mind
Is it really fair to feel this way inside?
[Chorus:]
Some day somebody's gonna make you want to
Turn around and say goodbye
Until then baby are you going to let them
Hold you down and make you cry
Don't you know?
Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day
Can you hold on for one more day
Things'll go your way
Hold on for one more day
You could sustain
Or are you comfortable with the pain?
You've got no one to blame for your unhappiness
You got yourself into your own mess
Lettin' your worries pass you by
Don't you think it's worth your time
To change your mind?
[Chorus]
I know that there is pain
But you hold on for one more day and
Break free the chains
Yeah I know that there is pain
But you hold on for one more day and you
Break free, break from the chains
Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day,
If you hold on
Can you hold on
Hold on baby
Won't you tell me now
Hold on for one more day 'Cause
It's gonna go your way
Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day
Can't you change it this time
Make up your mind
Hold on
Hold on
Baby hold on
No one needs your art
>>2255329
>100 self-taught artists
>never drew from childhood
It makes me wonder if there are any great artists that didn't draw in their childhood. I read from a couple of old masters who said it was essential.
>>2255220
i took a month off drawing with my dominant hand, because of some wrist pain. during that month i drew with my non-dominant hand. now my non-dominant hand has wrist pain. when should I legitimately take a break from drawing? wrist exercises dont seem to be effective. maybe I should exercise my wrists more?
>>2255401
>I read from a couple of old masters who said it was essential.
Source?
>>2255220
Thanks dud, this is what I want when I arrived, motivation go start drawing again and fulfill my dream of becoming an illustrator, many thanks you just made my day better
>>2255401
Pretty sure Cryptcrawler didn't start until his late 20s.
>>2255401
>It makes me wonder if there are any great artists that didn't draw in their childhood.
It's hard to find any plumbers or electricians who never drew in their childhood. EVERY child that didn't grow up in a fucking war zone drew shit when they were little. Not even sure why this retarded argument always comes up.
>>2255417
Brad Rigney did start late. He was interviewed years back and I remember him talking about how he fucked around in his 20's, didn't do much art, playing in bands and crashing on friends couches or something like that. In his early 30's he started to get serious about his life, with a wife and kids for part of it along with a day job he spend most of his 30's just studying and getting better and didn't break onto the scene until close to his 40's. I'd have to listen to it again to be 100% on the details but I know he didn't start until his 30's. Here's a link to the convo I think he talks about it in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEU03Q5H5sU
>>2255401
The reason they're great is because they've had more years drawing than the people who didn't draw much when they were young. It's not that people who never drew as kids can't become great you just have to make up for all that extra time they have on you. Plenty of artists, including young ones haven't draw much as kids. It's all about putting in the hard work /long hours however old you are.
>>2255474
i drew on walls, parents told me not to.
after i had concussion doctors told me not to draw very small
when i tried to draw full-body female for the first time, i had to show it to teacher and entire class made fun of me
yes i tried to draw as a child, but every time i would be discouraged
>>2255492
oh and how could i forget: found /ic/ and they discouraged me from drawing on a whole another level.
>masturbating
>ever
spill your mana onto the canvas, not into a tissue
>>2255329
>>2255401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fDcapEe4P8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrXCYJRZ0Kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNv3YB9pO0
How about these guys?
>>2255577
They draw shit. Garbage. I can do the same tier paintings, but no one will price me.
>>2255220
But I can't. I drew so much recently that I can't hold pen in my hand because thumb is so sore because of it. Tomorrow I will, I promise.
>>2255606
Because you don't have the giant hindrance of being blind.
Become a disability-kin and pour drain cleaner in your eyes, then maybe someone will get out a checkbook for you in pity
>>2255612
Use your toes.
David Foster Wallace - This is Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI
I know DFW is a meme tier author, but this speech is life-changing.
>>2256796
>motivational thread
> posts a guy that literally gave up on life and killed himself
Thanks OP I need this push.
>>2255390
>No one needs your art
I draw fan art because people respond to it as if they DID need it, and that can be a real shot in the arm when I'm down.
>>2255220
>but because it's the reason you picked up a pencil in the first place
>tfw only picked up the pencil to draw mlp fanart
>>2255220
You're... absolutely right... I'm gonna do it today, there is no other day to make a push in character design but TODAY. Thank you, OP, for giving me the opportunity to scroll past this. I won't let you down.
>>2255220
I'm at the point right now where I've accepted that my work will never be perfect, which is a good thing because that means there will always be something I can work on. I'm pretty ok with actually stopping to work on stuff, but it's more about finding time really. I admit I do still succumb to the "I don't know if I can do this" mentality, but I know that logically that's even more reason to try.
>>2255220
Thanks OP. Been sick, haven't drawn shit so far today. But now I will.
No guys guys chill. Hyper activeness is often mistaken for motivation and excitement but it is a dangerous thing and can lead to failure.
What you need to do is relax, just calm down. Okay you're not drawing enough right? You want to draw more? The thought of having drawn alot and having skills is exciting it makes you wanna just jump at and start drawing. But we all know what happens after that. 10 mins into your power montage of studying you get bored and you stop and sometimes even feel like you're not up for the job, that you're a failure. That's the hype. You wanna avoid it. It's immature
What you should instead is calm yourself, slow down your excitement. Think about why you want to git gud, think about how you need to git gud. It's gonna take a long time. And then realize that it really is going to take a long time and accept that. And then, with a calm and collected mindset, do some serious studying of whatever you need to do. Do about 20 minutes, and take a short break with a glass of water and do a little more, and do as much as you're comfortable with.
You have to be reasonable with yourself. If you don't work hard enough, you don't make progress but if you work too hard in a short period of time you burn out. Calmness is the ultimate emotion, all other emotions decieve us to be biased towards one or the other causing us to make poor decisions but calmness is logical and correct.
Art is a journey that needs to be worked at just a little bit at a time. You have your entire life ahead of you to make it, there's no need to rush
>TL;DR
Don't fall into the hype, think clearly and do what must be done to succeed in a realistic way.
>>2255403
did you ever find the cause for your wrist pain? maybe you're just doing something wrong. you can learn how to draw in such a way that you don't actually use much of your wrist.
>>2259084
Thanks man. I really appreciate this post. I totally understand that burst of excitement and anxiousness to draw and the eventually discouragement that takes place. This is a good reminder to stay calm and just keep on practicing.
>>2259084
sounds like a meditative process. is this the secret to why asians draw so well?
>>2260621
Asians draw so well because they can completely discard their humanity for brutal, rote training. Talmbout years of drawing straight lines on blocks of wood while herons start pecking at they nuts n' shit.
>>2259084
this.
you dont need motivation.
you need discipline and calmness.
>pencil and paper in front of me
>tab open with model references
>last few days have been going well
I have everything ready but for some reason I can't bring myself to do it now.
>>2259084
Diogenes laying the glorious stoic truth.
I'm never going to get good, and I will die poor and alone. I can't remember the last time painting something made me happy, it's just another escape from thinking now.
Do you really want to kill yourself? Y / N
tomorrow... I SWEAR
>>2260631
Just draw a few warm ups. You just need a kick start.
>>2259084
volem? what chu doing here?
>>2255220
y-yes sir
>>2255329
>ping pong
Nice. I love the art style of Taiyo Matsumoto and and Masaki Yuasa.
Gets me every time
im shit though, even after >reading the fucking sticky
>>2266223
Too bad big lincoln was piss easy
>>2257288
That's unfortunate
>>2257288
No shame in that fam. MLP inspired lots of people to do the same. Horse pussy is superior.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/evagtk3vh7lhu/manben
thank me later.
>>2255220
Fuck that, OP. I drew gesture drawings today. They were so fucking terrible that I am done drawing for today. Fuck you, fuck this board, fuck gesture drawings, and fuck drawing in general.
>>2268006
Now you're a professional artist!
>>2268012
I'm just going to spend a hateful week practicing gesture drawing, because I have backbone. But still fuck it.
everything is waiting to dry, and I can't think of anything new to do.
>>2255220
Let me save all of you faggots some time. Are you drawing? Put down the fucking pencil. if you aren't? Good. Now, go schedule a meeting with a local organization that issues official IQ tests.
Take the test. If you IQ comes in under 120, STOP drawing. You are not talented enough. You will statistically not make it.
Otherwise? Keep drawing. In fact, double your efforts. You WILL make it.
>>2268071
Practice anatomy. Now.
>>2268087
>>2268093
I've cleaned my brushes for the first time in months. do you like my autopsy? it's better than cezzane's
>>2268107
I've lopped the boys legs off and I'll make a better go at it. It's too sticky to touch yet. piss of /v for a few days...?
>>2268108
leave this here while I contemplate it? ta
>>2268219
now I've over painted the red blob on the right, it's much calmer now, she could be a spring
>>2268240
I know the red was loaded with connotations , a story in itself. but I've done with that , she's her own person.
>>2268255
there, she's a lot happier and waiting for her two sisters
>>2255220
My problem is that I work so hard that I see drawing as a chore and not something for fun anymore. How do I enjoy it again?
Can you tell me what you think?
>>2255220
>slightest improvement!
what do you mean by this? art is not uniform, its expressive regardless of style, culture, or method the only thing it should always do is capture the beauty of the image, we practice only to keep our dexterity on handling the pencil, that's all it is to know
>>2271532
Enjoy the work. You might not consciously realize it, but you've decided that the work is a chore. Exercise was terrible for me until I decided to appreciate what I was doing, and to savor all of the feelings that I thought were negative. Enjoy the process, have fun with it. Take little breaks here and there to doodle something fun, maybe after you finish a study, or when you lose focus.
The only way you can work too hard is if it starts to physically impact your health, your financial situation, or your relationships. All the psychological nonsense going on in your head telling you that you should stop studying when you don't need to stop, has to be dealt with.
I'M A WORTHLESS FAGGOT NEET
I WANTED TO START DRAWING IN FUCKING AUGUST
AUGUST
THAT WAS NOW 4 FUCKING MONTHS AGO
ALL I DID WAS PLAYING VIDYA AND FAPPING
I JUST WANT TO DIE
I HAVE TO GO TO BED BECAUSE ITS 1 AM, BUT I SWEAR ON MY FUCKING MOM AND MY FUCKING WORTHLESS LIFE THAT I WILL DO SOMETHING TOMORROW
I WILL SCREENCAP THIS POST AND USE IT AS A WALLPAPER
FUCK THIS FUCKING BULLSHIUT
>>2271561
Thanks. This really has become a problem for me. I'm so serious about getting good that I can't just take my time and enjoy it. I feel like I'm not improving quick enough, and I'm drawing less for fun and more to address the issues that need to be focused on.
Is there a way to enjoy the grunge work while studying the masters?
>>2271548
holy fuck you are cancer
>>2255220
horror and despair
> forgets motivation
> draws anyways
> drawing every fucking day
>>2255227
just finish what you're working on, and don't waste your time here
>>2271609
cancer is a biological illness, what does art had to do with medicine?
>>2271654
it cheers you up so may aid recovery.
So I'm trying to figure myself out over here. I need to practice anatomy and such because I want to make comics and if I didn't know what I'm doing then. Should I start trying to draw my characters and attempt to improve on them or what? Spoiler: I'm not that good at drawing.
>>2273348
Just draw Anon.
Don't think, feel.
>>2256827
It motivate to kill yourself or not be a fgt
>>2259084
This is the best piece of advice i'e heard from this board in the longest time.
>>2259084
thanks anon.
I have eight years drawing seriously without great results, I have a friend who started a year ago and now works as a professional. How to win that calm you propose to continue, if I'm 24 years and no progress?
>finally feel motivated to learn how to draw
>look up basic how to draw tutorials
>Start by drawing circle
>spent the last 10 minutes trying to draw a circle
>all my circles are ovals and don't join correctly
tfw no longer motivated to try anymore
>>2276498
Making mistakes is the first step to getting gud, anon.
>>2255492
This can unfortunately happen to a lot of kids. Don't give up, show the naysayers up.
>>2259084
This is the best. I used to get my self in a tizzy not being able to draw (or write) to how my tastes are. Getting that burst of motivation to do something, and then looking on a very dissatisfying result can be extremely demoralizing. We've got to learn to be progress orientated, more then goal orientated.
>>2259084
This needs to be screencapped.
>>2276498
they're not ovals anon, they're just circles drawn in your "style" :^)
>>2275992
Try to go over fundamentals everyday, for 15 minutes, then 30 minutes, then an hour. Always try to go up, if you can. Remember always try and apply what you've learn, this can usually be in the form of imagination drawing after an exercise to see how much you've recorded. You can improve rapidly by doing this.
>try stepping out of comfort zone
>continually fuck up every attempt to draw outside my comfort zone
I hate myself
>I've been drawing almost every day for the last two weeks
>mfw this has happened before but then abruptly stopped
I can do this
>>2255269
This. This is so fucking true and I follow this exact trick every damn day. I'm slow but it works.
But don't get too depressed to the point that you start crying over shit because that's incredibly stressful.
