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This is in a nearby gay club, seems pretty cool:

"bottoms arrive in advance of the tops and are stripped & hooded ready for the top's pleasure. they can't see who is fucking them nor can they choose!

tops inspect the bottoms and take their pick - no refusals"

Sounds pretty horny, and wearing a white hood means condom so it's pretty save.
As a learning bottom should I go?
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"Bottoms arrive between 16hr-17hr, one hour before the tops. They are completely naked except for
shoes (preferably boots or sports shoes). Harnesses are allowed.
They are given a hood which covers the entire head (except mouth) and must be kept on at all times
(except during breaks). An ID number is written on them.
Tops arrive between 17-18hr. They are preferably naked but may also wear jocks, underwear,
sportswear, chaps or fetish wear (no street wear).
Bottoms may not refuse a top but must allow himself to be fucked or felt up by him. Bottoms are not
allowed to move around the room, they must remain in their positions. Every time a bottom gets fucked
by a different top he gets a mark. The bottom with the most marks wins free entry to the next party.
Bottoms and tops may not change roles during the evening. Tops are not allowed to fuck other tops,
bottoms are not allowed to fuck other bottoms.
Marshalls ensure safe sex and that the rules are obeyed. They look after the bottoms giving them drink
and toilet breaks.
"
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So degenerate.
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thats very depressing.

i dont judge tho. i just feel like the most attractive part of a guy, the only part that actually matters is covered. i'm all about dat face. disembodied penises, headless torsos and anonymous holes are just not attractive. in fact you can see peoples faces in every pic in my porn folder.
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If this I your thing OP then more power to you, but even within sex positime and kink communities there's a big emphasis on consent before and during sex. People are encouraged to have a safe word and be allowed to use it without judgement. This is taking the whole power play to an entirely different level. I would imagine that there needs to be a lot of screening of men who want to participate in something this extreme.

It's a little comforting that there Marshalls to keep everyone in line, but I can't help thinking that a sadist can make it in if he really wants to. Condoms can protect you from most diseases, but don't douch for a guy who wants to fuck too hard too fast, or who wants to fist you when you're not ready or willing to do that.
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This is REALLY creepy.

Condoms don't prevent everything, that part scares me.
Bottoms can't control pace/size/time/etc, that worried me.
There's no safeword or stop option, that scares me.

The whole concept of completely anonymous fucking creeps me out, but that's some people's thing. But this...this just seems crazy.
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>>1248826
>even within sex positive and kink communities there's a big emphasis on consent before and during sex. People are encouraged to have a safe word and be allowed to use it without judgement.

This. I hope that's part of the reason that the mouths are left uncovered (the other part for blowjobs, obviously), and the "no refusals" thing is just a marketing ploy. Otherwise that puts the tops - and the club as a whole - in a very VERY grey area, legally speaking.

One of the mottoes the kink community has is "safe, sane, consensual". Even if OP's assumption that "white hood = condom" is correct (and that seems like quite an "if"), the club's adherence to the "sane" and "consensual" criteria seems dubious at best.
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>>1248807
>>1248809
That's hot as fuck. I wouldn't do that as a new bottom, though. Talk to the club management or whoever is in charge of that particular event and see if there's a way to ease you into it.
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>Marshalls ensure safe sex and that the rules are obeyed
What's even the fucking point then? If you aren't barebacking you might as well be playing with a dildo
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>>1248888

This x10
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If AIDS and sti suppressant tablets were available and cheap to stop and chance of catching anything, I would be the biggest cum slut ever!! Don't think my gf would be too happy to hear that..
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>>1248888
The name Krasnak continues to be associated with laughable 4chan trolls. Your entire existence is less than worthless.
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>naysayers
>muh AIDS (despite the boxes of condoms clearly visible in the pic)
>muh degeneracy

Am I the only permavirgin who finds the concept alluring? Isn't it basically every man's dream to have a haram of willing subs all lined up and ready to take their dick?
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>>1248807
No, wearing a white hood is not a condom. It's a white hood for your head, like all the guys are wearing in the pictures.
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>>1248898
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>>1248901
Oh, I can certainly see the appeal for the top. All the issues of control, safe words, condoms, are all within the tops control. It's just sketchy for bottoms.

I like to see a guy's face, it's part of what makes a guy hot to me, but for those tops who don't I could totally see wanting to do this.
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>>1248901
>a harem
to share? really?

god that's nasty
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Potentially being fucked by a nigger....NIIIIIIIIIIICe.
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I'd go as a bottom, if it wasn't on the same day as Pann in Rotterdam, which is so much closer to my home.
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>>1248916
Okay, yes, it is, but I'm operating under the assumption that I'd be punctual and pushy so as to be the first one inside one of the bottoms. All the others, with their cute butts sticking in the air, are merely entertaining visuals.
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>>1248888
Sadly this. And the worst part is that there's poor people that caught HIV because of an accident or hooking up for the first time with a stupid positive guy and those perverts probably catch nothing.
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>>1248807

>As a learning bottom should I go?

lmfao OP
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>Amsterdam

No fucking surprise. It's like you want to beat SF as the most disgustingly degenerate city
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Sounds like some hot fantasy that should stay a fantasy tbh.
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>>1248807
sounds like the sort of stuff where only fat old gay men show up
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>>1248823
This tbh fam
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Couldn't they have chosen better looking asses for that? The one on the middle of the 3 stacked ones looks completely busted and bruised from being pounded so hard.

Anyways, that's degenerate as fuck. As a learning bottom? Don't go anywhere near that sort of thing.

If you want guys to fuck you just go on any dating site like manhunt and ask a bunch of people to come fuck you.
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This is the stuff people will talk about in the future once our society falls
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wow that's disgusting

>>1248809
>Bottoms may not refuse a top but must allow himself to be fucked
This sounds like rape to me
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Tbh this sounds super hot for the overused bottom types, but a terrible idea for anyone who hasn't at least been at the center of a gangbang before. The "no refusal" part is the most important part of the fantasy to draw people in. No one could enforce it. I love porn with slutty holes lined up together though.
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>>1248807
It's called Fickstutenmarkt in Germany. The idea is that there are mares (bottoms) and stallions (tops). Heard about this a lot, turns me on quite a bit but as a bottom I would never go there - the marshalls probably can't check on everyone all the time and condoms do break sometimes...

Some more details:
- In Germany, a mare can refuse a stallion if he is too big
- White hood means safe only, red hood means that the mare is willing to take it bare (there are quite some red hoods in the pictures, which I absolutely cannot comprehend...)

I once chatted with a dude who went there a couple of times - he suggested to go there as a stallion first, so you can get a good impression of how everything works. As a stallion, you can just stand around watching or bail if there is no mare you fancy.
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>>1248815
Yeah, actually, this is pretty fucked up and I've got a decent fucked-up threshold. Decent by 4chan standards, even.
Fuck, man.
At least the BDSM guys have an intimacy and feeling to them.
Though I guess I can see this as being a sort of Halloween event, it's got a certain horror to it, and I might try it as a one off just because.
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>>1249169
The condition of entry is obviously that you consent to everyone.
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>>1248807
because you know i'm all about that face, bout that face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, face face face

Yeah, it's pretty clear, I ain't no picky bottom hoe
But I can take it, take it, like I'm supposed to do
'Cause I got that bum bum that all the boys chase
And all the right lube in all the right places

I see the gay club workin' that hooded night
We know that shit ain't good, come on now, make it stop
If you got beauty, beauty, just show your face up
'Cause every inch of your cock is perfect but if no face, no bottom to your top

Yeah, a daddy he told me "don't worry about my size"
(Show face face, show face face)
He says, "Boys like a little more peni to hold at night"
(That peni, uh, that peni peni)
You know I won't be no bottom to an anon daddy bear
So if that what you're into, then go 'head and go along

because you know i'm all about that face, bout that face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, Hey!

I'm putting hoody back
Go 'head and tell them faceless bitches that
No, I'm just playing, I know you think you're hot
But I'm here to tell you...
Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the neck.


Yeah, a daddy he told me "don't worry about my size"
(Show face face, show face face)
He says, "Boys like a little more peni to hold at night"
(That peni, uh, that peni peni)
You know I won't be no bottom to an anon daddy bear
So if that what you're into, then go 'head and go along

because you know i'm all about that face, bout that face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, face face

i'm all about that face, bout that face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, bout the face
no hoody
i'm all about the face, face face
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>>1249507
>>1248807

I've seen so many hot bodies that i like be ruined by ugly faces. For me to be attracted and fully in to it, i have to see the face.

Now i actually request cock shots and a few face pics before i even consider a guy. All my most watched pornos have guys where i can see their faces and their expressions.

On top of that, anyone who doesnt want to show their face does it because their face is not an asset to get them sex. I'm not even picky, i like a manly daddy bear guy next door type. Basically if he is ugly, severely unkept or way too manicured then hes not my type - facially. If he has the body and a decent face then im in and so is he.
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>>1248807
cute how they put a nigger in the corner on the flyer
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One of my bf's coworkers attended one of these "events" a few weeks ago. He said he really enjoyed himself. Granted, he went as a top. Personally, I find the whole idea revolting.
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>>1248807

I thought I was on /pol/ and this was some sarcastically disparaging thread against gay people.

Stop making us look bad. If you're going to have sex in a place like this, at least make the ads tasteful
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>>1249539
>cute how they put a nigger in the corner of the flyer
What? You mean you're in the picture? Where?
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>>1249542
Stop trying, anon
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>>1249548
now don't be so bashful. i'm sure you'll get fucked anyway. how's it feel wearing that white hood? too soon?
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>European anonymous gay sex event
>Syrian refugee crisis
Enjoy getting fucked by subhumans
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>>1249541
This.
This looks like the ad for a horror or tragedy movie. I'm having Midnight Meat Train flashbacks.

>>1249542
cringe
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Shit is sick

Like all parties in Church, we want this party to be safe. However we realize that not all men can or
will use condoms all the time. To keep this party as safe as possible we have the following rules:

Bottoms with white hoods indicates that condoms MUST be used at all times. New condoms every
time you fuck.
Marshals will check that fresh condoms are always used, however the final responsibility lies with the bottoms (their hands are free so we advise them to feel that condoms are being used when they are
being fucked).
Anyone trying to fuck a bottom with a white hood without a condom will be removed and permanently banned from the party.

Bottoms with red hoods may get fucked without condoms. Red hoods cannot refuse tops who want to fuck them with condoms.
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>>1248807
Fucking hell this is some degenerate shit. Please kill yourself if you consider going to that.
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>>1248807
That be some sick shit.

>>1249135
>Amsterdam
Actually it's Imamsterdam now.
Which makes this even more bizarre.
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>>1249507
>Every inch if you is perfect from the bottom to the neck

I laughed
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>>1248807

I find the thought damn hot. Sometimes, a guy likes a surprise, and the randomness can be a huge turn on.

This is such a mix of Master/slave and D/s, S&M, with the thrill of power and choice by the top, and eagerness to please and desire to be used by the bottom.

I'd go, and likely flip a coin to decide which position I'd take. Both make me diamonds. Support this if all above 18.
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In a sheerly physical sense, I admit I like the concept of having a buffet of butts completely at my mercy... and I don't really like that I feel that way. When I take a step back and think it over, this is one of the most degrading and dehumanizing scenes I've ever heard of.

I understand that some people actually would find it hot to get fucked by absolutely anyone who comes along, even without a condom (yuck.) But just like seducing people under 18, it's one of those fantasies that really, really, really shouldn't come true. Not just for your health but for your self-respect.

If you're willing to give your ass up to absolutely anyone, you've basically said that trust and affection isn't a requirement for you to have sex. You'll let anyone inside you. So what happens the next time you fall in love with hot, normal guy who wants sex to be an act of trust and affection? "You're so special to me, dude. You're so special, I'll give you the exact same ass that 250 complete strangers have already loosened up with their poz loads. And I didn't even pick which strangers they were." It's not exactly what your future partner would want to hear.

And even if you don't want to eventually fall in love with the right guy, and just want to do stuff like this every weekend to chase physical pleasure, eventually you'll get desensitized to this too. When even this kink isn't enough to satisfy you, what's next? Something even more degraded?
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>>1249767
You are stating and holding up sex as if a sacred act. Do not do this because you will create resentment. Sex is sex, not as you define it. Let others define it for themselves. Not you who has decided that sex is something way more important than it actually is.

That said this harem thing is unsettling and I have been thinking about it for days. But I can't figure out why this seems wrong to me.
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>>1249773

>Sex is sex, not as you define it
>not like you who has decided that sex is something way more important than it actually is

Except you seem to be assigning sex a definite value too, a value lower than my value. So what is your value? Sex does have A value, right? I think we can agree on that much. What unsettles me about this scene is that it doesn't just say, "sex is fun and that's that," it actively devalues sex. Like that line from The Incredibles, "If everybody is special, then nobody is."

Of course I'm sure the guys at this harem look at it a completely different way. They would probably say that sex is extremely important to them -- important to get, I mean.
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>>1249773
It seems wrong because it's dehumanizing.
Nothing but flesh and desperation.
It's sex at less than the lowest common denominator is nature.
Sex IS as sacred as Nature gets.
Nothing metaphysical about it; it's how you pass your genes on. Every living thing on Earth devotes enormous time and energy to this, because the ones that didn't die out.
Many creatures die just for a chance to reproduce.
We are no exception.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about dat fucking, my partner count is somewhere around 370, I think. But this shit here...I'd much rather just use a flesh-light or dildo.
I'd rather be raped.
I wouldn't feel so diminished and degraded by that. Top or Bottom, either way this Meat Market is diseased.
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>>1249773
Sex is very intimate and personal. You devalue it to the level of a sneeze. Something that just feels nice and that's it.

Maybe you don't think there's anything that sets us apart from other animals. Well, this thread proves that's true in some cases.
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>>1249881
>370

Into the trash you go
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>>1249767
Leave the guys alone. The want to be degraded because probably they are mostly in the BDSM scene. There are many gays who don't seek love and all that shit.
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>>1249968
>love and all that shit

Who hurt you?
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>>1249968
LEEB BRITTNEE ALOOONE
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lol the one with the dogtag that me lol, had forgotten they took pic's of us the first time lol
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>>1248807
TOP KEK, enjoy your aids.
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>>1249881
>Nothing metaphysical about it; it's how you pass your genes on.

Where do you think you are?
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>>1249881
>partner count 370

your asshole must look like a yawning hippo
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this would be hot if all the tops were young but you know theyre going to be old fatties
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>>1248807
I live in Cologne, where this party also happens at Station 2b. I just want you to know that people living with a HIV + diagnosis DO take part in this event, and it is your responsibility to be on PrEP to prevent transmission if this is what you're interested in.

People of all attractiveness go to this event, but generally its people who are more attractive than not bc the bouncers won't let in people who aren't at least a part of the kink aesthetic. So even if he is old, as is often the case, these old guys have muscular bodies and are wearing sexy fetish gear so its nbd.
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>>1248809
That's hot as shit
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>>1250767
>Taking and/or suggesting PrEP to whore out

I hate this argument and you're the reason PrEP has the stigma that already has, when millions of people in serodiscordant relationships could benefit of it but can't because imbeciles are using this argument plus the "they will not take it everyday" for it not to be refunded by the public health care system where I live.
What's funny it's that if the seronegative party gets infected, they will have access to the treatment... for free. What the fuck, man.
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>>1250772
There was a bit of an informal study done in San Francisco that found that PreP is just as effective if taken after supposed exposure. If true then it could mean that daily dosage doesn't matter.
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>>1249883
top kek
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Oh my god the hateful faggots here is knee (boot) deep. I mean this is a questionable situation, but there is some serious middle school closet casing going on here in the /hm/.

The butt punching truth is that this sex party seems premised on some level of dom/sub play where bottoms are expected to be pretty down with whatever. My gut says this is because the sex club/party social group putting this on has a lot of slutty bottoms. Probably 40-60, 50/50 poz or neg. OP you should go if you are comfortable under one of the following conditions:

A. You are comfortable with the circumstances, including the possibility that even though the event is (somewhat abstractly?) promoting safer sex, a guy could easily take off a condom or misuse it or etc, etc.

Or B. You're on PreP, or otherwise comfortable with a situation in which you do not have specific agency in the protection sexual partners take.

Now I don't judge, but the reality is you don't know you're protected unless you know you're protected. If you don't care, or only care to a certain degree (the coded safer sex/condom use message of the event), then go ahead. Fuck the shamers and people talking about PrEP whores. I don't trust pharma but if that's your game, do it faggot. Better than not taking it, probably.
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>>1251104
>defending whoring around with AIDS infested homos

shame on you
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>>1251104
>there is some serious middle school closet casing going on here
>I don't judge
>fuck the shamers

So you're OK with the idea of a scene where people are likely to contract the fucking plague, with permanent health consequences, but you object to harsh and "shaming" language in an online forum.

Nice priorities.

Sounds like you could benefit from a little more shame in your day to day life.
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>no refusals

That's fucking horrifying.
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>>1250385

tell all
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I think in theory this is hot. Like I like the idea of being used by literally anyone. But the whole idea is pretty unrealistic.They're not always going to be able to protect you everytime. Prep isn't going to stop you from getting herpies. I think in a perfect world where everyone did the right this this would be okay. But unfortunately this is not the case and is therefore not safe to go or even consider the idea desu
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in the sense of this being fantasy
it sounds hot as fuck and i'm all for it

though as a reality, I'm not sure if it sounds safe at all
but if you wanna try it OP, there's nothing we can do to stop you
and if you do, come tell us what was the experience
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>>1251205
Agreed.
This is a huge turn on in theory for me but when I actually think about for a few seconds I nope the fuck out.
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>>1251212
>>desu
Into the trash it goes.
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>>1250385
>the first time

so is this a new thing?
or had some other clubs anywhere on earth thrown parties of similar concept (strict top/bottom role division, hoods) before?
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>>1251477
baka desu senpai
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>>1251592
Get in the furnace, /hm/rade!
Choo! Choo!
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>>1251083
PreP is a suitable replacement for condoms? I had no idea that HIV is literally the only STD in the world!
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>>1251576 I think its funky how many people are negatieve on the internet in gernal but that's not important, just thinking out loud. I believe not but the first time it was held in that club. They took those pic's not the 2nd or 3the time I was there. And the atmosfeers is just like an ordanary darkroom but this time around you wear a hood. And believe me the tops AIN'T Some creepy old dudes, my god they where somethin else.
P.S. Tere like 2 marshal per bttm so they make sure that the iromclad rule of no bare backing à white hood is followed at all times. No hate plz new on 4chan :3
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>>1252485
2 per bottom? They must either have a lot of marshals, or very few bottoms.

Also, how does one get a job as said marshal? This kind of thing is in the category of "things I'd never participate in, but would be hot to watch" so if they'd pay me watch, I'd be all for it...
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Where do I find a dude who hasn't had sex with 370 men and doesn't have to get regularly tested for AIDS and wears it on their Grindr profile like a badge of honour

I wish I was dead
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>>1253261
stay away from lgbt shit, it only attracts degenerates
you can find nice guys under normal circumstances, maybe on the bus or a shop, or even in the comments of a social network
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>>1253261
Well, a sense of humor tends to help LTRs.
So good luck with that.
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>>1253261
I feel you, anon. I'm sure other gay people think I'm uptight or have some kind of snowflake complex, which is probably a bit true, but I just can't help finding that lifestyle seedy as fuck.
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>>1248809
holy fuck thats scary why would anyone do this?
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>>1253370
you aren't alone there bud. LGBT is fucking degenerate.
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>>1253370

I hear it almost daily from fellow gays. I've been out since I was 13 (I'm 29) and an active member f the gay community most of it.

I kinda stopped because I realized how disgusted I was with many gay guy's behaviors.

I don't care if it makes me a prude, but I am honestly revolted with the concept of whoring around, group sex, drinking til blackout, and treating others like shit.

I might be gay, but I will never resonate with that fuckery.
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>>1253464
From the words of Hozier:
AAAAAAAAAAMEN!
AAAAAMMMEENN!
AAAAAAAAAAAMEEENNN!
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This is why everyone thinks the gay community is fucked up. This shit right here. This needs to stop.
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>>1253464
>whoring around, group sex, drinking til blackout, and treating others like shit
but straight people do that too!
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Sodom and Gomorrah folks!

This is what happens when you're an ugly, sad piece of shit without a thread of self respect.
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I don't think I'd ever do this, but I wouldn't stop other people from doing it if they really wanted to. They know what they're getting into; it's pretty futile to try and stop people from having sex. Different strokes for different folks.
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okay but theres straight men and women who enjoy degenerate things like this too. but it is making gays look very bad, they aren't even trying to hide how disgusting it is? but i don't expect much from europe any, aren't they a bit too sexually free over there?
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>>1249507
I'm actually quite impressed by this anon
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Sounds hot but unsafe. I saw a video of this scene and even there a couple of guys grinned while pushing their raw cocks inside a white hooded "safe only" bottom. I'd do it only if I were HIV+. I don't think you can get prep in Europe anyways.
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>>1253518
but it's an aspect of their lives, for lgbts it is their whole lives
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sounds like aids heaven
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i fantasize about something like this but that is a fantasy and this is reality. the reality is that most will likely be old saggy men, some will be HIV+, others with other stds, etc.

not worth it desu, i will 100% feel like shit afterwards idk how anyone can go to this thing and come out normal.

also are there vids i wanna see this
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>>1253876
>be a notorious pig around the area
>love to get fucked by random dudes
>bath house parties all the time
>bar parties all the time
>still wear condoms
yeah, that blind folding shit just sounds like a bunch of Poz psycho paths are trying to load a bunch of guys with out them knowing.
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>>1253464
Just find a guy who doesn't really care for the whole slutty thing either. They exist.

>>1253880
white hood = condom. People who violate the rules get kicked out.
Easy peasy.
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>>1253926
ahahahahHAHAHAHAH
You fucking kek.

I'm not sure what's worse; the stupidity of the concept or the sheer degeneracy of it.
Degenerate is a meme now, but shit like this is what the word is designed to highlight.
A carnival of mental illness and sexually transmitted disease.
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>>1249507
rupaul have already stolen that and you'll see it realised on iTunes for 0.99$
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>>1253261
Elementary school.
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>>1249507
>Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the neck

D E D
E
D
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http://thisvid.com/videos/fuck-o-matic-how-kinky-is-this-breeding-like-dogs/ something similar to that topic
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I'm guessing you like aids then
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