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How does a smaller country BTFO a larger one?
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How does a smaller country BTFO a larger one?
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>>999144
Not all territory matter
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>>999144
Try to outdo them technologically, forge a coalition against them, try to conquer their capital fast and hold it until the warscore goes to 40-50% then sue for peace.
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Simple, by taking advantage of their internal conflicts, allying with their enemies, having larger armies with better equipment, training and competent leadership.
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Home territory advantage
>Swiss
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>>999144
Blitzkrieg
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>>999144
When being conquered requires more than the invader is willing or able to expend.
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Ask russians they have a lot of experience in getting btfo
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Pretend that the frozen shithole you're from have the same population as France (after all they've almost the same size!) so that no one bothers invading you and when you go around Europe with your whole army everyone think it's just a glorified personal guard.
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Because one man with a machine gun can slaughter 50 unarmed men in under a minute.

With all factors accounted for (tech/hardware, intelligence, positioning, sheer numbers, common sense index, etc), smaller force cant btfo a larger one.
Someone may have more men but if they are all standing in some shitty place where 1 artillery piece can blow them all up or something, this seemingly larger force is in fact not larger at all.
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>>999144
Territory in itself isn't really any mark of the military skill of a society, especially if you limit it to the extant of land held.

However it is historically true that harsh territory tends to make a society more feriocius and thus create better warriors. The personal skill of the individual fighter is however no guarantee for sucess in war, as leadership, equipment and supplies are much more important determinators.

Basically, the size of the country doesn't really matter, as military competence and ability are the deciding factors in war, both of which have no real connection to the size of the states in question.
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>>999144
By abandoning direct conflict.
Insurgent warfare, terrorizing collaborators, etc.
Just make their occupation a pain in the ass.
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>>999144
With the help of another larger country.

This is the case for every example in history, 100% of the time. Wars are decided by politicking, the fighting is just for show.
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Guerilla warfare
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>>999144
Efficient logistics equalizing the battlefield. In the past a larger country wasn't always able to scale up their state and army in proportion to their territory and population, nor able to concentrate any advantage they did have to overwhelm smaller foes because of the drain on manpower and resources that comes with more borders to police and more subjects to subdue.
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>>999230

You've obviously never read The Prince.
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>>999157
Switzerland never beat any country though
The only time they got attacked in 1798, they ended up conquered in weeks
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>>999730
Burgundy and Austria.
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>>999730
That doesn't count all the invasions that didn't happen because moving your troops through the Swiss alps while fighting would be too much of a hassle.
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>>999144

Kurz und vives. Have a better quality of troops. Assemble them quickly, and attempt to destroy the enemy in detail before they can mass and press home their numerical advantage.

Speed and aggression. Establish some facts on the ground and then get the best peace deal you can as quickly as you can.

Or settle down for a gruesome guerrilla war which may take years.
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>>999226
That only works if your enemy is trying to "win the hearts and minds" and playing by arbitrary rules.

In Ancient warfare guerilla warfare would get your people genocided. The best way to deal with a bunch of faggots hiding in the tree line is to go to their village and just slaughter everyone. Keep doing that until the guerilla's get angry and stupid and make an ill considered assault.

The Romans used to do that all the time and it got uppity people to stop resisting really fucking quick.
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>>999973
Yeah, Romans were pretty hardcore
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With digits
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>>999999

Like this
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chekd
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>>999155
All correct, but certainly not "simple."
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never ever forget
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>>999211
>Machine guns can fire for more than one minute
>Machine guns can fire into depressions in the ground
>Machine guns can kill more than one squad at a time

It's like saying every KHV could impregnate 1 billion women.
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>>1000069
How the fuck did that even happen? I know Vikings a shit, but honestly
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>>1000116
medieval sources are famous for this kind of bullshit, not saying impressive stuff never happened, just that medieval people liked to make these kinds of super ultra mega extremely biased records
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>>999144
Pretty easy question really. I'm assuming you mean militarily:
If it's centralized and has a guaranteed source of tax revenue and a stable government.
If it has a disciplined and loyal army and loyal/well educated officers.
If it's fighting a defensive war that makes a huge difference too. Not only are soldiers more likely to fight harder but they're also fighting on home terrain and have defensive benefits.
If there's public support for the war.

Basically sums up the generalities. But it was a general question, after all.
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>>1000116
>>1000132

fuck, Ireland stuff is all over /his/ today

to put it simply:

>Máel Sechnaill mac Domnaill is a fucking based commander and his men were well trained and mostly well equipped
>They had a good position on a hill
>Vikings were not all warriors, many of their numbers were townsfolk and peasants
>Viking Army would march up the hill and get barraged by ranged shit whilst being exhausted as fuck
>Utter failure to make a strong enough advance or attack on the Irish that eventually their numbers just dwindled and dwindled and they gave up

Máel Sechnaill the king of the north of Ireland while big-balls Brian Boru handled shit down south.
It's sometimes interesting to wonder what Ireland's fate would be if Brian hadn't decided he wanted ALL of the power.

There would probably be more information if Máel Sechnaill wasn't in the church's bad books at the time.
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>>1000138
Also in the case of Prussia I'm pretty sure they divided and conquered with Russian and Austrian armies, pressing the advantage before their enemies could assemble massive counteroffensives.
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>>999999
CHECK'D
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WITNESSED
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>>999144
Well, one country could be bigger in area, but smaller in population. For example the US vs India.

A smaller country could have more wealth than the larger country and therefore better military equipment.

A smaller country could have a larger military.

A smaller country could have better generals and better strategies.
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>>999999
>his was made only a couple of months ago
>it already has 1 million posts

Time flies fucking fast man.

When did foolz die again?
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>>999144
Not letting them know you're at war.
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>>999999
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>>1000147
Prussia was getting rekt until the russian empress died and her successor was a true prussianboo and ceased hostile acts against prussia with allowed prussia to concentrate on the austrians and defeat them
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>>1000884
mostly due to a minority of autists memeposting
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>>999999
REAL HUMAN BEAN
WHO GOT TRIPLE DUBS
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>>999144
Rapid mobilization, concentration of forces and good leadership.

As your picture is related, think war ala Frederick the Great

>>999857
This post is also correct
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>>999999
Awww yiss
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>>999144
Start Teutonic order, then re-start until Austria allies someone who you can rival, then rival that country (normally Poland or Bohemia). Use the mutual rivals relations boost to ally Austria, boost your relations to +159 and add Koenigsberg to the the >H>R>E to join. Congrats, you now have a friend who is big enough to stop Poland from raping you to death, the world's your Oyester now, either use Austria as a meat hammer against Poland until you can eat them or casually burn your way through the HRE, once you get Prussian Speesss Mehrines you're unstoppable and Coalition wars turn into "I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me".

Harder but more rewarding way is to pick up easier allies closer to home (Bohemia, Bavaria, Pommeranida, Brandenburg, Livonian order, Riga, and outright win your first war against Poland-Lithuania (they will basically always war you as soon as you're able ~2 years in). Strat is basically to blob you're troops together with the biggest allied doomstack (normally Bohemia-Silesia's), win the first big battle hard and then aggressively pursue retreating forces. Take out loans, go over the force limit, you NEED to win this war, and you NEED to cripple Poland-Lithuania in the peace deal, make them release nations ideally.
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>>999999
see
>>1000000
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>>999999

fucking beautiful
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Legitimately impressive
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WITNESSED
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>>999999
Euuuuuuuuuuaaaaargh!!
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>>999730
Beat the House of Habsburg repeatedly over the course of two hundred years, utterly destroyed burgundy, beat Engierrand VII de Coucy who invaded with a force of french mercenaries, got wiped out outnumbered 13/1 against a french force under the Dauphin but killed that many enemies in the process that the french quit the war
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>>999999
nice
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>>999999
CHECK'D
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>>999151
kek, did this with austria last night agaist prussia
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>>999999
Fucking nice get
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>>999999
Holy moly
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>>1000141
So basically mountain blade wit a high level player character ?
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>>999973
this, people think its so effective because of the american revolution and vietnam, but both of those wars could have been won if the respective aggressors just went total war mode
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>>1001493
Where's that from?
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>>1001937
That, and casualties are horrendous on the guerilla side nearly always.
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>>999999
A message to future /his/torians: this is the exact point everything went down hill
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>>999999
TOASTING IN EPIC BREAD
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>>999999
WITNESSED MEDICORE MY BROTHER
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>>9999999

nice hexes
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>>1000972
It should be considered that Prussia was a tiny, poor and indefensible backwater, fighting against multiple great powers at the same time, pretty much always outnumbered. Few people would have made it as far as Frederick, who was without doubt one of the great military geniuses of his time.
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>>999999
/heem/ representing
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>>999999
OP's question will never need to be asked again
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>>999999
nice, nice
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>>999179
Someone explain
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>>999144
Asymmetrical Warfare
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Glorious Greek Fire
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>>999999
Praise the /K/ube.
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>>999144
Have higher discipline, morale, and infantry combat ability.
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>>999999
so beautiful
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>>999999
holy shit
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We don't.
t.Paraguay
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>>1004782
Don't cry Paraguay, at least you had the balls to fight three nations at once. Unlike some countries.....
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>>1004782
That's because you deserved it :)
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>>999999
blessed
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>>999999
PROPER
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>>1002658
I was the anon he was replying too, but I'd disagree that the Prussian economy was as bad as you argued.
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>>999999
where the fuck is
>>1000000
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>>999999

THE /his/ GAME ON POINT
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>>999999
noice
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>>1004299
Sweden in the 30 Year's War
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>>999999
Tremendous.
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>>1001423

Nice, but more interesting would be winning vicky 2 with paraguay.
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>>999144
Luck, tactics, terrain, inherent weaknesses in the larger party etc. etc. etc.
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>>999999
amazing

if you were going for 1000000 no one knows you're a failure
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>>1000000
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>>1000000
Who the fuck rolls the millionth post and then just fucking deletes it
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>>1005949
Hotpocket deleted it
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Greeks BTFO the Persians and Ottomans with naval dominance.
Finns with atrition.
Krauts with large fast moving armored formations, that broke through the enemy lines and fucked their 2nd and 3rd line up.
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>>1001423
whats the flag of the one making mandatory interacial marriages
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>>1006091
Paraguay you mong.
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>>1001423
>>1004782
If only Paraguay had won. They had meme magic on their side.
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>>1006012
>Greeks BTFO the Persians and Ottomans
If you are talkign about Greco-Turkish war in 1897 Ottomans won that militarily but they fucked up majorly in diplomacy when greater European powers interfered. so its not that simple. If it is some other war you are talkign about, ignore this...
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>>1000113
Whats a KHV
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