Could the "H" "R" "E" have been saved, and if so how?
i don't know if third world war will be fought with sticks and stones but fourth world war will break my bones
>>991460
It wasn't destroyed, but dissolved by the emperor himself. After all, some dignity.
>sacred
>>991460
How were they able to unite the Germanic Peoples under one Reich?
>>991507
The emperor didn't even have the legal authority to do that. So technically the HRE never ended.
>>991460
>HRE tries to unite Germans for centuries
nothing
>Teutonic Order aka Prussia comes and does it in one century.
>>991518
who is the emperor now then?
>>991725
Me
>>991567
>Teutonic Order aka Prussia
This is absolutely wrong.
Teutonic Order ceased to exist by 1500's. Prussia was a vassal state that was later inherited by Brandemburgian elector(on the condition on becoming vassal) who later, during Deluge(second half of 1600's) did "le piece of paper" diplomacy and became independent. Brandemburgian princes claimed the title of "king of prussia" in the begining of 18th century but they were in no way related to Teutonic Order.
Either way Germany was Unified in 1870, so even if you'd pick 1701 as a "beginning of Prussia" you'd have to wait for 169 years till unification that's more than one century. If you were talking about Teutonic Order though and assume that somehow related to the Prussia we're talking about, then it took over 600 years since they've settled in "Prussia".
Germanotard folktales.
>>991460
No, because its usefulness as a political entity ceased to exist. Well, its second use, anyway.
See, the HRE's original role as the big union of all of the Catholic German territories in Europe kind of went to hell after not every member was Catholic anymore. After that point, it slowly became more and more Austria's platform for attempting to unify Germany.
Even after the HRE officially ended, it actually had a clear, direct successor in the German Confederation, which was established to keep the status quo going and to try and ensure Prussia didn't get too much influence by rallying smaller states against them.
Of course, this was a failure. Even by the time Napoleon snuffed out the HRE itself, the writing was already on the wall that the Habsburgs were not to be the unifiers of Germany. For starters, they had far too many small problems dogging the nation, both internally and externally. Shit adds up, you know. Also, they were a Catholic monarchy, which wasn't particularly well wanted by the Protestants of north Germany leery of their rights being taken back. Finally, they simply had too much non-German territory, and they certainly weren't about to give up Hungary so as to ensure they don't just become even more super discontent minorities in a bigger empire.
So the German Confederation was trashed by Prussia, who ended up taking the reigns of the operation for themselves, and the Austrian dream of unification through political entities came to an end.
I think that becoming a centralized theocratic nation based on imperial doctrine, modeled explicitly upon those formed by the Latin peoples, and expansion of territories to include at the bare minimum the Lazio region of the Apennine Peninsula, would have been a significant improvement.
Constitutional Theocratic Monarchy, with local elections and such similar to modern day Britain but more authoritarian in some aspects.
See: Meiji Restoration
Unfortunately, no. It was just too good and pure for the world of centralized states and democracies created by XVIIIth century political philosophy.
>>992208
Why are you posting a vast collection of disjointed German secular buildings in every single thread?
>tfw I thought the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE would be this badass Catholic monolith of a nation
>tfw when it's just a German autistic mess of hundreds of disjointed smaller units
>twf when it was neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire
>>992175
Prussian traditions and culture was the same as Teutonic.
>>991464
underrated
>>992208
what do shitty buildings have to do with keeping a band of germanic tribes together
By being actually being pious, preserving their traditional values of past generations, and uniting together as one State with a strong leader.
>>991460
Define "saved", which time are you talking? The HRE had many forms from Otto to Francis II.
Daily reminder that Europe's most competetive and prosperous state, Switzerland, is what today resembles the HRE the most.
>Sacro Império Romano-Germânico
>Holy Roman Empire
At least in Portuguese it has the "Germanic".
>>994727
Same in spanish
>>994609
Germany too still owes its federal structure to the HRE. That's why unlike in other European countries you don't have a single capital where everything of note is located and otherwise barren wasteland but several centres of commerce, which in the past were often autonomous states, dioceses, free cities, etc.
>>994727
in Norwegian its "Det tysk-romerske riket"
which literally means "The German-Roman Reich"
Could this fored meme be saved, who will know?
>>997878
This "forced meme" is neither forced since it's natural nor meme because it is the obvious truth.
>>994727
In croatian it's The Holy Roman Empire of German Ethnicity
>>994609
Tbh, the Old Confederation was pretty much an alliance of Imperial Free Cities.
