Any depictions of foreigners in ancient/medieval art?
>btw this is a mughal painting of a European
Pre-industrialization Europeans were black, though.
>>986956
this
>>986956
No they became black after industrialisation, it was the coal
>>986966
That's wrong anon, Europe was a Black continent until the industrial revolution which caused people to stop going outside because they worked 20 hour shifts in factories so they became white because the melanin in their skin couldn't photosynthesize with the sun anymore so it died
English depiction of Muslims fighting the crusaders
>>986971
That yellow and black heraldry on the front knight is pretty cool, where is it from?
good thread. looking forward to more.
>>986974
Could be this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
I.e., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire#/media/File:Albrecht_Altdorfer_044.jpg
>>986974
I have no idea
>>986974
Holy Roman Empire or Byzantines. Give or take.
Anyone have the Chinese interpretations of Romans?
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>>986974
>where is it from
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>>987001
Japanese depiction of American Warship
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>>987005
>failing at perspective THIS HARD
I have a bunch of 16th century depictions of Irish people by English, Dutch and Spanish artists
dumpan
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>>987010
Tell that to Picasso
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>>987025
I feel this hat is a bit dubious
>>987027
note the doggo
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>>987023
Italian sketched by van Eyck
Anyone has an Indian depiction of the Greeks
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>>987008
I can see the toga like feature, but the fu-man chu and the vicar's hat really don't seem to make much sense given it was in the age of Augustus
>>987011
That sword seems a bit excessive
>>987033
Rene de Anjou receiving Italian visitors
Cropped up japanese painting of a white man that I use as a reaction image.
>>987036
Flemish interpretation of an Irish captain's dress
Or, rather an English captain dressed up as an Irish captain to make his Irish soldiers like him more
>>987041
Daqin also applied for the Byzantine Empire.
China didn't really see the difference, though the Byzantines were also called "Fulin" ("New Wealth.") as they assumed Daqin/Rome encountered some shitty crisis due to a loss of contact.
>>987043
African I think.
>>987053
An Italian artist's rendition of the King of Kongo petitioning a Portuguese missionary for his blessing before wargames.
>Dutch wanted to genocide natives of the Banda Islands
>Decide to hire samurai to make it more amusing
I think the painting itself is relatively recent
Socrates in medieval islamic painting
>>987048
You got your info wrong:
>Central Asian monk teaching East Asian monk. 9th century fresco from the Bezeklik Thousand Buddha Caves near Turfan, Xinjiang, China. A detail from Praņidhi scene no. 5 in Temple no. 9. The book that this painting is reproduced in has full descriptions of these two figures.
>The figure on the right is a young Buddhist monk painted in a stereotypical East Asian style. He stands with downcast eyes directed in reverence as he hears the teachings of the figure on the left. The figure on the left is painted in a style that is not East Asian in character. The two circles on either side of his chin are remarkably unusual (piercings?). He features a strongly-set nose and clear blue eyes. His skin color is darker. His hair and beard color is reddish brown with brown shades. He stands looking at the younger monk, raising his hand in a teaching gesture as he speaks.
>>987080
I thought it was considered haram to make depictions of living beings
>>987171
Ideas on what is and what is not haram in regards to depiction is pretty widely varied throughout the ages, there's a couple of "figurative" depictions of him out there by Muslim artists though.
>>987179
Well,medieval Artists got away with depictions of the prophet,so...
>>987171
Have you never seen early Muslim art before? It depicts human beings plenty. I'm not sure on the history, but I think the prohibition used to be more relaxed, applying mostly to religious imagery used in worship and not at all to paintings and miniatures that would be kept in private.
>>987186
I think that because of all of the islamophobia out there Muslims are getting more and more strict as to what is haraam and what is not. Muslims used to have plenty of sex,drink and draw the prophets
>>987192
What the hell, man. What the hell.
>>987192
>Lives in islamic golden age
>Complains about islamophobia
The hysterical whininess of you sandpeople never ceases to amaze me. Islam has never in it's whole history been as powerful or popular as it is today, yet you still cry.
>>987246
>Islam has never in it's whole history been as powerful or popular as it is today
Japanese depictions of Europeans are the best
>>987254
When did we lose our root and along with it our parachute pants?
>>987255
>source is in moonrunes
AAAAAA
context?
>>987250
>implying it isn't
Objectively speaking, Islam basically rules the west with oil and crime syndicates, muslims can go to an western country and are basically above the law, western governments bend over backwards to please them. Criticism of Islam is illegal is most western countries.
Tell me, when were they better off?
>>987171
Turkey and Persia have a rich history of miniature painting
>>987264
>Criticism of Islam is illegal is most western countries.
This meme
Chinese porcelaine plaint for export to the Netherlands. 1756
Porcelain makers in China sold export pieces that reflected the culture of European markets for target-marketing. Like there's one for the French, another for the Dutch, and for the Spanish and Portuguese and so on.
>>987014
fucking kek. Best way to tell him.
>>987269
>Let me tell you about your country
We should somehow save such discussions offline. In 500 years, people will be very interested.
>>987270
A Chinese porcelain figure of a European. Also from 1700's
>>987264
>muslims can go to an western country and are basically above the law
Bro. If you wanna complain, its fine. But seriously, forgot about shitty baits.
>>987286
Chinese export porcelain to the Spics in the Philippines. Featuring Don Quixote.
>>987289
That horse looks too evil for it's own good
>>987289
Not a European, but the Qing Yongzheng Emperor in a Chinese interpretation of European dress.
Like their counterparts in Europe who had costume balls, the 1700's Chinese aristocracy did so too out of fun. Favourite themes were Muslims and Europeans.
>>987301
A Ming Dynasty Dao (Saber) made to look like an Egyptian Mamluk Sword.
Mamluks in Egypt were called "Mixi" by the Chinese and hence the name: "Mixi Dao" (Mamluk/Egyptian Saber)
>>987264
>Objectively speaking, Islam basically rules the west with oil and crime syndicates, muslims can go to an western country and are basically above the law, western governments bend over backwards to please them. Criticism of Islam is illegal is most western countries.
Jesus christ, step outside for a few hours
>>987330
No and yes.
No as in some pieces of Porcelain in China were strictly art objects.
Yes as it some were both art objects and functioning tableware. Check out this Chinese "Wine Pot" used to serve alcohol to guests but at the same time is fancy as fuark.
Also one of the reasons why Chopsticks > Forks/Spoons in China and other parts of East Asia was because such utensils may damage porcelain or its laquer. While wooden chopsticks didn't.
Though rich as fuark Asians had ivory chopsticks, which is harsh on porcelain.
>>987014
>Sacred
>Trans-Rhine
>Confederacy
>>987296
Sancho's a Mongol, he's got this under control.
>>987286
Chinese sculptures of foreigners are always fascinating
Here's one from the Tang
>>987347
Another
>>987350
And my personal favorite. The dude is swagtastic
>>987347
>Irishman lost in the silkroute.
>>987011
Interesting that he drew the Irish as blondes, since blondes aren't totally as common there as they are in Norway or something. Not uncommon per se, but just less so. Maybe the colours faded with time?
>>987159
Shit. I actually got the image from this board with the explanation I posted. Can you source me, bro?
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>>987192
Actually, most of that "Muslim" art is overwhelmingly Persian, not Arabic, because among the Persian cultures at the time, there still existed some resentment towards the Arabs and the religion they had brought, meaning the Persians were not as observant when it came to certain things which mainstream Islam considered 'haraam' but had existed for milennia among the Persians and their various empires before (hence why we continued to have drawings of human figures in Persian art and why Iran is the only Islamic country to have a wine-drinking tradition).
>>987402
You do know most of the medieval Middle East was ruled by Turkic dynasties right? Persia included.
Who were also as casual as persians were in Islam.
>>987391
Wikipedia is your friend:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezeklik_Thousand_Buddha_Caves
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Central_Asian_Buddhist_Monks.jpeg
The blue eyed guy may have been a Tocharian.
>>987415
Ah, I suppose you're right, considering we have depiction of humans in some Ottoman art and evidence of alcohol consumption.
>>987010
simpleton
>>987171
Search for pictures of mohammed with his face uncovered. They've existed as long as Islam has and even in places like Iran, they remain on show.
>>987171
Different sects of Islam have different opinions about that
Does anyone have art by Europeans depicting Asians? I'm curious to see what early depictions looked like.
>>987254
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>>987361
>those persian guidos at the club are just participating in a long ancestral tradition
>>987050
>Ditched the pants, shoes and stockings
>Still wearing an embroidered shirt and doublet worth more than his entire army's combined property
Pic is of Hasekura Tsunenaga, Japanese emissary to the Pope in the early 1600s.
