You're sitting in your car somewhere in Northern Ireland during The Troubles.
A group of armed men surround you and make you roll down your window. You don't know what group they belong to.
"Catholic or Protestant?" the leader asks you.
What are you supposed to say?
>>954483
American Cathar
>>954483
"I support Partick Thistle."
>>954483
Jewish Israelite
>>954490
I hope you realise that will get you shot if the armed men are republicans.
>>954483
Protestant, since its nearly always the Provisional IRA
I am Irish because my great great great great grandmother was raped by a half Irish half black man. Top o' the morning to ya!
>>954498
You want to get shot?
>>954495
But then the kikes will kick off and get the US to nuke ireland back to the stone age
Fucking micks
>>954498
>provisional IRA
>better say that I'm protestant!
>wanting to get shot
>As Salaam Alaikum, Kuffar
>>954506
>>954495
In retrospect I may have made a serious mistake, always knew this how I would go
Catholic.
>>954516
I bet at least one American died this way
>>954483
Catholic
>>954483
Danm, Gerry!
You were suppposed to came back to the car after getting rid of the Police!
>Dude just say you're Catholic lol
>Implying faggot prots wouldn't lie
>implying a true Catholic wouldn't take out his roasry to say a few hail mary's with the lad
>>954483
Protestant.
The IRA usually won't shoot a protestant civilian unless he's a tout.
The UDA/UVF will take you to a pub, torture you to death in front of a load of drunk spides and dump your body in an alley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchers
Unless you get lucky and it's the Army undercover, in which case they'll just shoot you and drive off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Reaction_Force
>>954528
>The IRA usually won't shoot a protestant civilian unless he's a tout.
I'm not even supposed to be here today.
>>954520
>>Notice men are wearing traditional P. IRA wear and Republican flag pins and patches
>>"Catholic or Protestant?"
>>"Irish-Americans are not plastic paddies. An Irish-American is an American (Yankee for you Brits) of Irish descent. Irish-Americans don't claim to be Irish - we aren't stupid, we realize we weren't born in Ireland. It is, however the home of our ancestors and we are proud of our Irish heritage. Many Irish-Americans claim Irish as their primary ethnicity. You can't take away a man's ethnicity or his heritage!"
>>shot dead in jail of bullets
This guy's page is the definition of plastic paddy
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCemG6MTO0GARhzBLIXksbcA
>>954530
The IRA had a much lower civilian casualty rate than the army or the loyalists. Most of the PIRA's civilian casualties were collateral killings from bombings. They didn't just gun people down for being protestant, unlike the other factions. I'm sure there are a couple of exceptions but as a rule a protestant would be much safer in a Catholic area than vice versa. There were actually quite a few protestants in the PIRA and they didn't take sectarianism as seriously, being marxists and all.
>>954541
You're full of shit, they may have claimed to not be about sectarian violence, but they didn't give a fuck who they killed
>>954554
>they didn't give a fuck who they killed
Exactly. They didn't target protestants. They were reckless and often extreme, I'll give you that. But they didn't go gunning down civilians just because they were protestant. Which is something the Army and Loyalists did to Catholics.
>>954558
>they didn't target protestants
That's not true though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre
Why are you lying on the internet?
Just because they liked to say there were poor freedom fighters that didn't target groups, doesn't mean they didn't go out and kill people because of their ideology
No better than any other terrorists
"I'm not really religious."
Say I'm Oswald Mosley, Republicans liked him for denouncing the Black and Tans, with the Irish even offering him a place to live folowiing his interment in Britain, and Unionists like him for being a Unionist and being Mosley
>>954562
The kingsmill massacre is a fair rebuttal. It was done by the South Armagh brigade though, unsanctioned by the IRA council and OP's scenario is only really feasible in Belfast. South Armagh is hardly representative of the PIRAs standard operations.
I'll stand by my point that in the OP's scenario you'd be much safer to say you were a protestant.
>>954579
They defended each attack on protestants, even if they say they didn't order it
You only have to look at the death tolls to know they did target protestants
But yeah, you're right to say it may be safer to say you're a protestant, they still might decide to blow your brains out, or kneecap you and your family
>>954571
>*BANG*
Nobody sheds a tear
>>954571
"You're either with us or against us, boss. So what's it going tah be?"
>>954483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJlc0ZYvnk
>>954594
Greek Orthodox desu
>>954609
*BANG*
People laugh their heads off
>>954586
>They defended each attack on protestants
Most condemned it and several resigned.
>You only have to look at the death tolls to know they did target protestants
In an overall sense, sure. I'd recommend to anyone to actually read the statistics as a whole though. People have a lot of misconceptions about the troubles.
> they still might decide to blow your brains out, or kneecap you and your family
10 times out of 10 I'd take my chances with the IRA
>>954483
"Cthulhu Fhtagn!"
>>954648
>*BANG*
You get banned by the janny for being a shitposting faggot
>>954483
>Holy
>Catholic
>>954483
>"Catholic or Protestant?" the leader asks you.
>"What's the difference?"
Atheist
>Catholic atheist or Protestant atheist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXk4GW-vSeE
3:30
>>954483
>Being in Northern Ireland during The Troubles
wew lad
Show them my tattoo of based Michael
>"Catholic or Protestant?" the leader asks you.
>What are you supposed to say?
"Rome over Judea, you stinking cur".
They will ask what I'm talking about so I teach them the Overman.
"am I being detained?"
>>954708
Show it to us
>>954674
*BANG
Dead atheist
>>954483
My family is from Peru so I say:
"Duh, Catholic. Just look at me. Do I look White to you?"
Everyone knows Protestards are either White or Korean.
....or Black.
*pulls out armalite*
*telelports behind them*
Psssh, nothin personnel... Laddie
*spray them with a hail of bullets*
>>954743
>implying that all whites are protestards
>when confronted by catholic whites holding guns to your face
Smart move.
>>954750
A therefore B does not imply B therefore A, my logically-challenged friend!
>>954486
Underrated post
Not enough Scots on the board
>>954771
I guess you're right, I forgot how stupid the Irish are.
>>954483
Agnostic actually. That means I'm not very sure if god exists or not. Now, if you'd excuse me, I must be going.
Oh, and Rule Britannia chap...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSoHcDzY_E4
press play on the stereo
>>954777
>*BANG
Not even your family mourns
"I'm Catholic!"
"And I love Ire-land! Huehue. Top 'o' da mornin' to ya! hehe, are ye after me lucky charms! lelelel Are you off to the pub to drink too much alcohol?"
>>954483
>What are you supposed to say?
protestant. By far the most deaths were Catholics.
If they don't have a gun drawn just drive away since I'm presumably not sitting in my car with the engine off for no reason.
>>954793
WE 'ERE LOYAL SU'JECTS O' THE POPE 'N SHITE LADDIES
[riverdance intensifies]
>>954528
> he thinks that the British Army went around randomly gunning down British civilians for no reason
> Because someone who's dad was an IRA member and was shot dead in a drive by shooting reckons it definitely must have been the army and litterally noone else
>>954483
what will happen if i say im a buddhist?
>>954913
"Catholic or Protestant Buddhist?"
>>954486
FTOF
>>954913
>*BANG
The world is now a better place
>>954842
You tried to type an accent and i'm not sure what accent you even tried to type
>>954586
Overall, although it's not as clear-cut or necessarily mean that nothing would happen to you but he's right though. It would be safer to say you were a Protestant than a Catholic.
Depends.
Are you near Divis flats?
>Catholic
Near the Shankill?
>Protestant
>>954962
/thread.
Being aware of the area you're in would save your life or your kneecaps.
Jewish
>>954962
I watched '71 too friend.
>>954954
The accent was 'drunk'
>>954970
*>BANG
The future of the white race just got a little brighter
>>954962
Would you? Would you lie about this to save your life? Or would you rather die for what you know to be true, and be murdered by papist scum?
ANGLO CATHOLIC
>>954981
I'd rather live and not be murdered by radical extremist criminals on my way to the shops to buy milk
>>954986
Then this verse is not for you.
Mark 8:38 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”
>>954988
I actually checked to make sure this was /his/. Good job troll.
>>954984
>*BANG
Crypto protestants gone
>>954990
Son, there's probably no God and you're polluting your mind with that crap.
>>954990
Is this bait?
Or would you actually prefer to eat bullets than lie to radical terrorists to save your life?
Well, we both know you're most likely chicken shit and would lie through your teeth
Muslim. You out carbombing too?
>>954909
>he thinks that the British Army went around randomly gunning down British civilians for no reason
But they did, do you not know anything about the subject?
>>954579
#notallbogwogs
>>955015
around 400 people killed by army, including criminals
>>954483
Protestant.
Tell the truth, roll the dice, could die a martyr.
>>954483
say your an atheist or a Buddhist
>>954483
>be me
>get shot by ginger cripto commies
>>955027
Loyalists killed over 1000 civilians with army and police help, in fact it was often off duty soldiers or police doing the murders
>>954528
>The IRA usually won't shoot a protestant civilian unless he's a tout.
bullshit look at the kingsmill massacre
>>955042
>It said the shooting was retaliation for a string of attacks on Catholic civilians in the area by Loyalists, particularly the killing of six Catholics the night before.[2][3]
>>954483
>be me
>in Northern Ireland
>some armed men approach my car while I'm inside
>"Catholic or Protestant?" the leader asks me.
>"Allahu Akhbar" I shout while turning on the enigne
>Right after, 72 virgins wait for me while a bunch of paddies go punished for being infidels
>>955047
they still targeted protestants for being protestant, retaliation or not.
>>955041
And how many of those 1000 did the army actually kill?
>>955047
Oh okay it was a revenge killing, it's all okay then, those innocents who were murdered can just get fucked then
>>955058
from the same article as the kingsmill massacre:
>Many of the loyalist attacks have been linked to the Glenanne gang; a secret alliance of loyalist militants, British soldiers from the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR), and police officers from the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC)
I'd say lots
>>954528
>The IRA usually won't shoot a protestant civilian unless he's a tout.
This inspires great confidence.
>>955061
That have a source attached?
An article saying "many" could mean any number when it's about human death
could mean 10, could mean 1000
>>955059
Killing in revenge is considered a legitimate reason by the British government, judging by the conduct of its soldiers and intelligences services
>>954783
holy shit, protestant music sucks so goddamn much.
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT0yoo9B2Bc
>>955072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLcaRG8hI4Y
How can this ever be bad?
>>955068
I didnt know I was writing a dissertation,
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenanne_gang
>The Cassel Report investigated 76 killings attributed to the group and found evidence that British soldiers and RUC officers were involved in 74 of those.[8]
So extrapolating from this you could probably say they were involved in 98% of the 1000 or so murders, certaintly a lot more than 10 at least.
>>954577
BEADY
E
A
D
Y
>>955078
haha
lol
>>954483
>"Catholic or Protestant?"
Drunk.
>>954990
And? Both options are christian
>>954483
"Whichever side you are in, you can go fuck yourself"
>>955093
Oh you've opened up pandora's box now kiddo
>*BANG
This thread's gone
"I'm not a Christcuck," and drive off.
>>954483
>I'm a....
>have English accent
>get shot
>>954483
Same as you mate.
>>954994
The truth cleans. It does not pollute.
>>954999
I would not shame myself by lying, no. Most Christians don't. We don't hold onto this finite wisp of a life as hard as you people do.
Were I to be killed by filthy papists for telling them I belong to Christ Jesus, then the murder toll on their account would go up to 68,000,001.
>>955109
No need. Word's out. Belong to Jesus, or belong to the pope.
>>955157
Thats a very christian thing to say
>>955157
That imaginary murder count just get higher and higher every day breh
Just popping in to this thread to say:
>>954577
>unionists
>liking mosley
I'm afraid I've got bad news lad: http://www.oswaldmosley.com/irelands-right-to-unite/
You say protestant.
Only fucking huns attack civilians based on their religion.
>>955157
> /his/ - psychotic American protestant cultists role playing
>>955241
I em a dscherman tourist hier trying to feind out ze true faith
>>954490
the armed men smiles and says
"wow, i am REALLY the luckiest muslim in ireland"
>>954609
Right choice
>>954554
Wew lad. We're not talking about the RUC here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lef20AWwCjc
>>954913
Your life loses its worth to the point of you probably offing yourself
>>954981
Rather be a Catlick than a monarchuck
>>955287
>He doesn't want a righteous Catholic Irish monarchy
Reminder that the Irish aren't true Catholics
PULL THE TRIGGER, YOU SOPPING CUNT
I'M CATHOLIC TO THE HEAT DEATH OF THE FACKIN UNIVERSE AND BEYOND IT
NOW STOP WASTIN MY FACKIN TIME AND GET TO WORK
>>955301
*>BANG
Plastic paddies not welcome
Go back to >>>/boston/
>>954486
this tbqh
something like this actually happened to my late grandfather
he was cycling through Belfast in the late 40s and someone shouted at him
>are you a Fenian?
he wasnt so he just cycled away
>>955241
>Republicans killed more Republicans than all their enemies did
>>955335
based
>>955335
The IRA are even better at counter-terrorism than security forces.
How do Brits even compete?
>religion is the opiate of the masses
>>955051 why are you sat in a car that is not on. Clearly protty behavior
>>954483
I reply
"Er... Neither."
>>955241
Huns attack any peoples on flat terrain laddie
>>955264
The both of them were terrorist criminals you mick fuck
>>955406
The IRA cannot be terrorists, their cause was just.
"u wot m8?"
>>954504
ireland =/= northern ireland you retard
>>955416
You're a retard if you think that
Also their cause was not just at all
They started with supposed good intentions, nail bombing civilians isn't just though
>>955425
Loyalists tended to be individual gangs with absolutely 0 cohesive leadership or goals. So generally all they would do was fight amongst themselves and kill civilians.
Similar to republican forces. Whilst the IRA were the biggest and most powerful by far, there was also prone to infighting both within their own ranks and with other republican paramilitaries.
Just focusing on Belfast -
North or East, protestant. West, catholic. Central or Southern, take a wild guess based on the look of their outfits and hope to gods I'm right.
>>955445
In a cause as glorious as Éire's liberation from the Anglo yoke it cannot be won bloodlessly, but when a united independent republic is born from the struggle the civilians will not have died in vain.
>>955454
In the South you're more likely to run into some fundamentalist Muslims or Antifas than some paramilitaries.
>>955454
if your stopped in the country your kinda fucked
>>955470
If you stop your car to chat with people carrying guns anywhere you deserve to be shot to be h
>>955500
they usually bock the road and if you attempt to drive on they riddle your car with bullets
>>955466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9uHhLe6WE0
>>955540
It's not 1973 anymore m8
>>955466
In a cause as glorious as ISIS liberation from the Western yoke it cannot be won bloodlessly, but when a united independent caliphate is born from the struggle the civilians will not have died in vain.
>>955561
ISIS is the godwins law of the century
>>955568
Both are terrorist groups, pretty apt comparison
>>955445
>They started with supposed good intentions, nail bombing civilians isn't just though
>killing the people descended from the people sent to replace your people who still hold your land in bondage is """"""unjust""""""
>>955561
In a cause as glorious as Indian liberation from the toilet yoke it cannot be won hygenically, but when we are a superpower by 2030 the civilians will not have caught Hepatitis in vain.
>>955575
That's literally >muh heritage but using it against someone else
Fuck off, hate people for their sins not their fathers sins you faggot
>>955574
ISIS are barely terrorists. They're a regular army that holds territory and largely fights conventional battles.
It just so happens that they also commit huge amounts of atrocities, but so did the German army in WW2 but that doesn't make them terrorists.
At this point "terrorist" has a word has become so over-used to the point of meaninglessness.
Mormon! Have you heard the word of Joseph Smith good sir? Hey grab here is his holy book good sir. Have a nice day good sir.
Would I live?
>>955574
*tips dailymail comment section*
>>955581
they're still unionists and they're still planters on the land today pal
shouldn't cry when they get carbombed, if anything is unjust it was their violent opposition to a democratic vote on the situation of the whole of Ireland
Loyalists are below sub human
![895d3c984de65c024e2db88483d3eadf[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NhVgd2A.png "895d3c984de65c024e2db88483d3eadf[1].png")
>>955584
No it just so happens the meaning describes a lot of people
>>955586
DAT DERE CUNT CALLED ME A MORON
>>955593
Because random english people were the ones that were oppressing the catholics right?
>>955599
nope, the Ulster Scots more so
living in a land not their own and chimping out and secluding yourself from an all-ireland vote because
>we're speshulll
is why they deserved it
>>955594
who's laws?
>international law
my sides
>>955605
and what did the random english people do to deserve it?
>>955594
Except it doesn't really describe ISIS.
ISIS hold and administer large amounts of territory and spend more time fighting combatant in the Syrian civil war than they do using terror tactics to pressure the government like the IRA did.
ISIS aren't using terror, they're using totally conventional means for the most part with directly fighting armies rather than guerilla warfare.
However since "terrorist" is the latest buzzword that's what they get classified as.
>>955623
squatting in the 6 provinces and throwing a tantrum when they don't get their own way
>>955623
B
E
A
D
Y
>tfw catholic but loyalist
>>955651
Even worse than the cucks in Sinn Fein desu.
>>955651
loyal to literally what
the royal family are a load of krauts and the faggots on the other side of the Isles are a pack of neutered cowards
>>955651
rory mcilroy?
Ireland in its entirety should just become the 51st state of the US.
America please save us from these shitty Brits and EU slaves.
>>955671
the cure would be worse than the disease t.b.h
>>955683
But muh guns and le weed.
>>955683
>>955693
>>954485
Neat.jpg
Mind telling me how you practice?
>>954483
sunni muslim
at the time, it would be the most neutral answer, gaining respect from the left and acknowledgment as allies from the cronies of capitalism.
Just imagine it, lads.
There could be a monument to JFK on every street.
>>954909
>British Army went around randomly gunning down British civilians for no reason
But they did that. Did you even read the link?
>>955712
What the fuck his wrong with JFK's eyes.
Man he should have got them checked before, well you know.
>>954554
your argument convinced me
>>954483
>I AM AN ATHEIST AMERICAN ON HOLIDAY VISITING CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY, BOTH OF WHICH LIVE IN HARMONIOUS PEACE, PLEASE SPARE MY LIFE I WILL CONVERT TO WHAT YOU ARE OR JOIN YOUR GROUP! I AM TOO YOUNG TO DIE
If I actually had to think of something that would get me enough pity to survive. Though I mean they might just shoot anyways cause they're bored.
>>955042
>bullshit look at the kingsmill massacre
True, but he said usually. Wasn't all that common, in fact I can't think of a single other example. The army council didn't approve, and we never saw anything like it again.
>>955738
They would kill you for being a hun-taig mule child.
How the fuck does this shit still exist in a First World country? The more I read and watch about The Troubles, the more I view it as tribal warfare which will never end.
How do English, Welsh, and Scots regard this whole clusterfuck?
>>954701
don't you ever disrespect Rory you son of a pig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGlAkiCN4-M
>>954748
kek
>>955425
>what the fuck was even happening
That includes infighting, informants and accidents, like people blowing themselves up while transporting explosives.
>>955062
>This inspires great confidence.
Not really, but you should still always take your chances with the PIRA.
>>955594
if you think about it, it describes a select marginally few people
>>955636
I mean the people literally in england that were killed by IRA attacks
>>955752
>Northern Ireland
> First World
Ireland is a desolate shithole. One of the most embarrassing countries on Earth, Northern Ireland is even further behind the Republic.
>>955738
They'd most certainly kill you for being a pathetic bitch
>>955810
>I mean the people literally in england that were killed by IRA attacks
what like all 6 of them?
How about the over 350 people in ireland who were killed by uniformed British army soldier, and the many more who were killed by off duty security forces?
>>955709
read the bible myself and be a good person
try not to masturbate too often.
>>955811
>One of the most embarrassing countries on Earth
Ireland is literally the best country in the world though.
>>954483
Lutheran
>>955839
>all 6
Fuck off, there were a fair few deaths and many injuries due to the IRA bombings
>>955752
Northern Ireland is not a first-world country.
We are actually Slavs that got lost.
>>954483
"Oliver Cromwell did nothing wrong"
>>955928
I'm pretty sure even loyalists would kill you at that point
>>955928
But everyone in NI loves Christmas.
Atheist. No sense in lying at that point.
>>954483
Muslim
Not about to roll the dice picking one or the other
>>955928
>"Oliver Cromwell did nothing wrong"
He banned fucking christmas.
>>955878
>Fuck off, there were a fair few deaths and many injuries due to the IRA bombings
Fair enough. Anyone who died in England didn't deserve it. I won't try and justify that.
Offer them a shout at the pub
>>954483
>and make you roll down your window
Why "roll down"? It operates with a button.
>>954483
>"Catholic or Protestant?" the leader asks you.
>What are you supposed to say?
So the quick thinking Irishman says, "neither I'm a Jew!" and the voice behind him says, "and I guess that that makes me the luckiest fucking Arab in Belfast!"
gets me everytime
>>955752
>How do Scots regard this whole clusterfuck?
We don't care.
>>955241
Sorry all I see is an abstract family of Pepes in a lineup
American
>>954909
>>955027
>>955058
>>955068
>somebody accuses the US government of misconduct on 4chan
>burgers probably agree with it and add more details
>somebody accuses the British government of misconduct on 4chan
>YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT
>more damage control than a Russian talking about Ukraine
>>954483
So what's a good book/movie/series about The Troubles? It's a subject that received really little attention outside of english-speaking countries
>lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur-rasūlu-llāh
I then let them now I'm also Palestinian, so I understand them completely and wish that Allah smiles upon them and their cause
>>956216
I'm Muslim, and this is literally what I would do aside from the Palestinian part.
>>956216
>I-I AM FROM PLO
>PLEASE TO NOT SHOOT
This might work.
I pull out a potato to trigger him before calling him out for being an albino nigger and stabbing him with my katana.
>>956216
If they're Protestant they'll shoot you. Loyalists love Israel and Judaism.
"I'm an athiest and not even from this bloody archipelago"
>>955752
The potential for this kind of conflict is the reason that Germans were ethnically cleansed in the Czech Republic and Poland.
>>954486
I don't get it.
>>954486
Keked heartily
>Be English
>I happen to be born in the country which they probably hate
>Get shot after one word
Irish hate for the English is kinda fucked. I don't hate the Irish but it doesn't matter
inb4 muh centries of oppression
>>956785
>Irish hate for the English is kinda fucked.
But Irish people like the English and the IRA killed very few English people.
>>956831
As much as it would be nice to believe that, being English in Troubles Ireland would just get me murdered
>>956785
>>956831
with the level of intermarriage since the industrial revolution, at this point they're basically the same people with slightly differing sets of regional accents.
>james callaghan was british prime minister when gerard adams was an IRA commander
>le british man with irish surname versus le irish man with british surname
no fucking difference
>>956831
>Very few
IRA did plenty of attacks on innocent british people, many were killed and injured by IRA
>>956866
>being English in Troubles Ireland would just get me murdered
But that's literally retarded. An englishman would be safer than either a protestant or a catholic. Unless you were in the army
Refuse to answer until he threatens me with an AR-18
>mfw
>>956738
Good thing Protestants at no point in history have been remotely threatening
>>954483
"American"
No one would dare touch me.
Otherwise Catholic because my heritage is from Southern Ireland
>>954483
are they wearing rangers or celtic tops?
>>954483
Atheist
*tips fedora
Zoroasthrian catholic
I'm a Mujahidin and I'm making a scene
Now you gonna feel what the boom boom means
We are the martyrs
You're just smashed tomatoes
ALLAHU AKBAR!
What, you thought it was a real bomb? That is racist man.
>>957747
Last time I checked, most Brits are protestant.
Christian.
Detonate my car bomb for God and Ulster once I figure out they're Micks.
>>957795
>*BANG
Unitarians are not allowed
>>957824
>welcome to the last two weeks on /int/
nothin personnel kid
Italian catholic, what now?
