What were the causes for the French and American revolutions? Did they influence one another?
>>939392
The people were done with the bullshit and acted on it
American revolution = massive tax evasion
French revolution = a gigantic chimpout fueled by egalitarian enlightement writers
Also ignore this post: >>939399
It's never "the people". In France it was violent mobs concentrated mostly in Paris while the rest of the country didn't give a fuck. In America likewise, a handful of population was loyalist, a handful was secessionist, and the absolute majority of people just didn't care.
Basically the french won the revolution for the colonies whih plunged france into an economic shithole and after a few years of shit harvests the hungly plebs of paris began to riot for food which lead to some shitty decisions and you know the rest
Both were massive social experiments by liberal intellectual edgelords. American was also largely economically motivated by the wealthiest 1%. French was more urban middle and lower classes tired of being shit upon.
>>939408
>In America likewise, a handful of population was loyalist, a handful was secessionist, and the absolute majority of people just didn't care.
Actually it was a third of each
So still not even a plurality of secessionist
>>939392
French revolution has multiple causes and its hard to pinpoint what exactly caused it.
First, an underlying factor is the enlightenment which promoted a new way of thinking about the world and politics. Within these sets of idea's the aristocracy with its privileges was seen as an abomination. These political privileges had to go and society had to become equal by law.
Second, Another underlying factor was the pressure that peasants and farmers faced. In the leap towards 1989 a lot of harvests failed and food prices rose high. People could not afford to feed themselves anymore and rose up against the elite out of pure desperation. The king also highly taxed these peasants to pay for his wars and grandeur. This caused a major sense of disharmony among the farmer class.
The American revolution (in my opinion) has little do to with the French opinion in the sense of the causes and underlying favors which caused people to revolt. The American revolution seems to be more of an uprising of the elite of a colony who felt the owed nothing to their motherland of England anymore and they certainly did not want to pay tax for it.
>>939549
The french revolution was also heavily motivated by the bourgeois who were mad they didn't have noble blood, preventing them from such and such things, which made them drive up the price of bread.
>>939392
I'm not expert, but have heard this opinions:
>French
crop failure and bad rumor about egoism of Emperor family.
>American
Don't won't pay taxes to Great Britain, and won't Ruler from themselves.
>>939649
>>American
> Do not want pay taxes to Great Britain, and want Ruler from themselves.
>>939392
Illuminati was behind both to shake the world of it's foundations
>>939392
jews
>>939649
>bad rumor about egoism of Emperor family.
You almost looked smart, nice try
>>939615
This
I like to think of the farmers and low-borns as the riffle and the upper classes/intellectuals as the trigger
As for the gunpowder, probably the global resentment for the nobles.
Didn't the French try to help the Americans so that they could piss off the British? Instead France kinda screwed themselves up. By helping the Americans, they had spread ideas of revolution through France, and also helping the Americans put them in dept. I think this is why they started taxing a lot, which made the peasants mad.
>>939809
why are the french such huge failures?
>>939879
Spoken like a true gentleman!
>>939392
poor harvests from 1769 to 1787
>disette du pain
bread's paucity
1788 good harvest
angry people get the strength to fight
so they fight
>>939392
>Did they influence one another?
No
The US Revolution did cause the French one, but not through ideas, through technicalities (bankrupt caused by war funding)
>>939408
>while the rest of the country didn't give a fuck
Louis XVI thought the same when he attempted to flee Paris. Guess what, he was wrong.
>>939392
>American revolution
The colonies wanted political representation in parliament.
>French revolution
Large famine that lead to bread riots and later the overthrow of the monarchy.
>Did they influence one another?
Consider the American revolution happened decades before, i'd say no. But the French revolution did indirectly result from Frances post war debt.
>>In the words of Thomas Jefferson
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
>He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
>He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
>He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
>He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
>He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
cont. in second post
The American Revolution was largely based on the Dutch revolution, not the French
>>939532
>FRENCH DID ALL THE WORK!
>ONLY THE EVIL RICH 1% WANTED REVOLUTION!
both of these memes need to end before someone gets hurt
cont.
>He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
>He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of >Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
>He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
>He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
>He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
>He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
>He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
>He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
cont. in third post
cont.
>For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
>For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
>For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
>For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
>For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
>For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
>For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
>For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the >Forms of our Governments:
>For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
>He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
>He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
>He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the >Head of a civilized nation.
>He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
>He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
maybe you could actually read the literal document explaining the reasons for the revolution.
>>939615
>In the leap towards 1989 a lot of harvests failed and food prices rose high.
>>939532
France was always an economic shithole. None of the Louis's knew how to spend and save money, nor did they care.
>>939685
:^)
It was freemasons in both cases
George Washington was really Adam Weishaupt in disguise
>French Revolution
Started by the Jacobins and Illuminati to overthrow the Christian monarchy and replace it with savage atheism.
>American Revolution
Freedom and independence from the British.
>>939879
We're not, shut up, bong
