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Show me the horrors of war, /his/
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The most horrifying fact about war is that its not much different than normal life
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We automatically mounted the machine gun for action. Then like animals we burrowed into the earth as if trying to find protection deep in its bosom. Something struck my back where I carried my gas mask, but I did not pay attention to it. A steel splinter broke the handle of my spade and another knocked the remains out of my hand. I kept digging with my bare hands, ducking my head every time a shell exploded nearby. A boy to my side was hit in the arm and cried out for help. I crawled over to him, ripped the sleeves of his coat and shirt open and started to bind the bleeding part. The gas was so thick now I could hardly discern what I was doing. My eyes began to water and I felt as if I would choke. I reached for my gas mask, pulled it out of its container – then noticed to my horror that a splinter had gone through it leaving a large hole. I had seen death thousands of times, stared it in the face, but never experienced the fear I felt then. Immediately I reverted to the primitive. I felt like an animal cornered by hunters. With the instinct of self-preservations uppermost, my eyes fell on the boy whose arm I had bandaged. Somehow he had managed to put the gas mask on his face with his one good arm. I leapt at him and in the next moment had ripped the gas mask from his face. With a feeble gesture he tried to wrench it from my grasp; then fell back exhausted. The last thing I saw before putting on the mask were his pleading eyes.

Corporal Frederick Meisel, 371 Infantry Regiment, 43rd Ersatz Brigade, 10th Ersatz Division, German Army
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This picture really gets me for some reason. Nothing but misery in both their eyes.

>>925529
You've posted this before, haven't you? Same Wojak and everything.
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>https://youtu.be/uP_0DkpFOKs?t=206
>That look of confusion, anguish, sadness and terror in his face
Nine million good men dead. The egos of kings and emperors took these lives.
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>>925529
that's fucked up
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>>925529
Damn
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>>925529
What is this from? Is it from a war diary? I want to read more of this man.
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2:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpvN0tIkkCY
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>>925596
How was this movie btw? It was hyped all over before it came out and then I heard nothing about it after.
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>>925585
Rivers that vaporized, tornados of fire, winds that would rival hurricanes due to the oxygen being sucked away.
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>>925600

its really good
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Anyone read "The Things They Carried"?
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>>925618

yeah, only part I remember was when they find this burnt up corpse and he just casually kicks its head and then a bunch of flies swarm out the mouth
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>>925622
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>>925596
Phenomenal movie.
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>>925493
>When developers deny that russians are op
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>>925640
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>>925618
Oh man. This is taking me back to my highschool stoner days.

Loved English class. Remember reading that as a senior.
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>>925618
I read it as a teenager for English class. I really didn't like it, but I was a rather immature kid. I should probably give it another read now that I'm an adult.
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>>925618
Some of it, didn't like it very much
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The armistice began for the purpose of burying the dead. The smell is something awful. Some of the bodies have been lying in the heat of the sun for four weeks and of course all are unrecognisable. It is only by identification discs that the corpses are known. The ground was simply covered with dead between the trenches and estimates of 12,000 Turks killed have been made.

Amongst this awful mass of dead Turks were some of our boys who had been killed on the first and second days' fight and had lain there since. The bodies were horrible to look at being black and swelled up stretching out the clothing and, in many cases, when they were touched, falling to pieces.

William Dexter
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>>925655
Woah.
Why her hair are not burned?
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>>925666
Rot not burn.
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>>925529
>>925570
Found it. It's in link related for any interested.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-War-Combat-History/dp/0199976279
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>>925570
It's an excerpt from Peter Hart's 'The Great War'.
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Are there any visual evidence about Colonia Dignidad?
>>925671
I don't have much of experience with dead bodies but she looks like she's baked with a crisp.
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>>925655
>filename
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Vietnam
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Have fun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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Fucking insane, good read tho
>having to kill your CO because he's an inhumane sociopath

http://www.warsawuprising.com/witness/schenk.htm
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>>925832
>“That was probably my last action in Warsaw. We were storming some building, I ran through a field. A wounded soldier lay on the ground. I gave him some water from my canteen, than ran forward to blow some doors. The SS was moving behind us. When I ran back, Dirlewanger stopped me. He pointed to the wounded soldier: ‘You gave water to this pig?’ Only then did I notice, that on a German uniform the wounded had a dirty white-red armband." "‘Shoot him!’ Dirlewanger handed me his pistol." "I stood motionless, sick of all of that. Dirlewanger was so furious, that I couldn't understand what he was shouting. The Pole looked at me. I will never forget his eyes. In Warsaw I learned to recognize if a wounded would survive the next ten minutes or a couple of hours. When one sees so many people dying you just know how long they will live. One of Dirlewanger SS-men grabbed the gun from me and shot the Pole." "Dirlewanger shouted that he will shoot me on site. Then some Wehrmacht soldiers arrived so he began to threaten me with court martial. One infantry officer started a violent discussion with him. I ran away."
Shid
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>>925799
good vid, thanks for sharing
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>>925618
Had to read it for our AP Lit class.
It was powerful and I ended up buying the book and the rest of Tim O'Brien's novels.
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>>925455
Dead spics in Chaco war.
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>>925455
Australians shitposting on POW camp walls
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>>926007

What the fuck even happened to the guy on the bottom-right corner?
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>>926032
He's heavily decomposed. That's basically just moss growing on his skull.
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>>926032
looks like maggots
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This is probably one of the better anti-war films.
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>>925666
It was probably hot enough in the area she was in to suffocate her and affect the skin but hair can withstand fairly high heat. Most hair straighteners women use go up to around 400F.
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>>926061
oткyдa ты?
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>>926061

don't forget the human condition, best war trilogy.
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>>926104
я aмepикaнeц, нo мнe нpaвитcя вocтoчныe eвpoпeйcкиe фильмы
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>>926007
Great grandfather fought on the bolivian side.
Had nightmares for the rest of his life
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>>926104
>>926170
cyka blyaat
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>>925548
>implying they wouldn't have died anyways
Faggot at least they got a chance to die like heroes, even if they were shitting themselves they were better than you, me and all neckbeards posting in this history inspired chinese cartoon website
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>>926195
Have you seen this man?
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>>926170
*нpaвятcя
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>>926200
>vatniks
ayy lmao
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>>926207
I was going to say that the movie was Belorussian but I guess I'd still be a vatnik. How is typing in shit Russian in response to someone typing in Russian vatnik material anyway?
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>>925585
>>925607
>>925655
>>925690
Fagermans deserved it fully
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>>926222
fuck nigga if I know
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>>925832
Great read, good post anon
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>>926192
And the worse part is the patch of land they were fighting for was worth absolutely nothing.
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>>Why her hair are not burned?

Dresden, like Hamburg, was a conflagration/firestorm. Most of the victims died of heat and carbon monoxide rather than fire, basically baking in their bomb shelters or suffocating as the oxygen was consumed. That's why her clothes are intact as well.

In only happened in a few cities the RAF fire bombed, certain variables like dry weather and winds were required, but on those rare occasions the fire produced its own gale force winds and a column of heated air so large that bomber crews reported feeling as they flew over.
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>>926584

These are from a book called "War against war." A WW1 vet opened an "anti-war museum" and collected photos and artifacts and then published this. You can find more of it here;

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f226/war-against-war-108827/
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>At first glance the dead gunner appeared about to fire his deadly weapon. He still sat bolt upright in the proper firing position behind the breech of his machine gun. Even in death his eyes stared widely along the gun sights. Despite the vacant look of his dilated pupils, I couldn't believe he was dead. Cold chills ran along my spine. Gooseflesh tickled my back. It seemed as though he was looking through me into all eternity, that at any instant he would raise his hands—which rested in a relaxed manner on his thighs—grip the handles on the breech, and press the thumb trigger. The bright shiny brass slugs in the strip clip appeared as ready as the gunner, anxious to speed out, to kill, and to maim more of the “American devils.” But he would rot, and they would corrode. Neither he nor his ammo could do any more for the emperor.

>The crown of the gunner's skull had been blasted off, probably by one of our automatic weapons. His riddled steel helmet lay on the deck like a punctured tin can. The assistant gunner lay beside the gun. Apparently, he had just opened a small green wooden chest filled with strip clips of machine-gun cartridges when he was killed. Several other Japanese soldiers, ammo carriers, lay strung out at intervals behind the gun.

>As we talked, I noticed a fellow mortarman sitting next to me. He held a handful of coral pebbles in his left hand. With his right hand he idly tossed them into the open skull of the Japanese machine gunner. Each time his pitch was true I heard a little splash of rainwater in the ghastly receptacle. My buddy tossed the coral chunks as casually as a boy casting pebbles into a puddle on some muddy road back home; there was nothing malicious in his action. The war had so brutalized us that it was beyond belief.
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>Before getting into his own position, the NCO crawled over piles of the dead to check on each man. He squirmed up next to Ōmagari and whispered, "You stand out like a sore thumb, sir. You don't look dead." Ōmagari wasn't selling it as a corpse. If the flamethrower tanks spotted him they would torch the whole group. The corporal instructed Ōmagari to smear blood on his face, and cover himself with intestines and organs. Ōmagari balked at coating his body in the guts of his countrymen. The NCO spoke through clenched teeth that if Ōmagari didn't convince the Marines he was dead, the flamethrower tanks would burn him and the others alive.

>The NCO pulled his bayonet from its metal sheath and brought it down hard against a dead man's torso, splitting the belly open. He pulled out a slippery mass of viscera. He handed the bayonet to Ōmagari and pointed to another corpse. With the fate of the mission at stake, Ōmagari accepted the glistening bayonet. Ōmagari tried to open the buttons of a dead man's jacket, but the corpse was too bloated so he sat up on his knees and swung the bayonet down into the dead man's abdomen, hacking through the uniform and exposing the dead man's organs. Ōmagari used the tip of the bayonet to fish out a long string of intestines. Ōmagari unbuttoned his own jacket and stuffed the entrails inside. He hacked off a large section and inserted it into a tear in his pant leg. Seeing this, the NCO was satisfied and crawled away. "The dead were no longer seen as human beings, but as objects. Even the dead were called to fight," Ōmagari said.
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my grandfather one time told me about this

>a mixed unit of germans and italians menaged to ambush an american column
>my grandfather would hid in a hole few meters away from the road, passing grenades to the others so they could hammer the infantry that menage to get on the ground
>american tank is advancing on the side of the road, a german AT cannon hits it and the tank stops, a few hits later the tank is on fire as a badly burned crewman crawls out
>for some time it lays there in front of my grandfather's hole screaming
>a medic is in a near hole, takes pity of him and comes out grabbing the wounded american and drags him in my grandfathers hole
>while he's treating him, the shocked crewman takes out his pistol and shots in the medic's face
>everyone in the hole gets mad, as they stop bothering about the combad to stab and hack this guy with bayonettes and handaxes
>it takes almost five minutes of constant hits to kill him, leaving the guy with the belly open, without the hands and the face split open
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Two Soviet troops ate their comrade while behind enemy lines during the Winter War. They were caught by a Finnish squad because of their fireplace. Things that remained of him in the pic.
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The flayed skin of the cannibalized troop.
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>>927300
fucked.
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>>926654
>the pacific
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>"...a conflagration/firestorm. Most of the victims died of heat and carbon monoxide rather than fire, basically baking in their bomb shelters or suffocating as the oxygen was consumed"

That is absolutely metal
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>>927294
If I remember right soviets used the same picture to claim finns were eating soviets.
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>>927430
The Pacific and BoB both were closely tied to memoirs. While there's obvious embellishment, what happened in the series happened in real life.
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>"Even the dead were called to fight"

Real war is even more brutal than fantasy baka
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>>925799

this is hell
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>>926626
Did he just shoot him with a damn artilery weapon? Or did he fall because of the shooting wave?
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>>926995
One from my grandpa
>was on the US Pasadena
>during battles he was a loader for a AA gunner
>right before one battle the gunner freaks and asks my grandpa to switch stations with him
>after the battle the guy is pinned to the wall with bullets

Pretty fucking crazy how life is, if it wasn't for that I wouldn't be here today.
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>>927916
Apparently it wasn't the pasadena, have to double check the name, but it was a cruise ship in ww2
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>>927966

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=59050032

Apparently it was the pasadena, Google said the pasadena was a sub... donno
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>>927871
Gas knocked him down from the artillery. Pressure probably killed him as well.
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>>926186
This would have more of an effect with
>>925528
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>>927992
Why the fuck did he fire it, or was that a german
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>>926198
That is if you imply glory is something that comes out of doing someone else's bidding to kill other human beings for vague purposes in horrible conditions.
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>>928005
Nah, it was Ivan. Can't say why he fired it. I can say that it was a joint fuck up on the part of the FCT and the infantry column that ran in front of it though.
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>>925640
>>925654
and nothing of value was lost :^)
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>>926608
>all that blood coming out from everywhere
i swear, modern warfare is the worst thing ever - explosives are the worst invention
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I'll stop here, unless you all want me to keep going
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>>926182
>>926185
>>926186
>>926189
anyone got more of these?
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>>928251
any story?
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What is scariest is not this unglory of war, it is the fact that war is still necessary. This is not something we'll ever overcome as a species.

"Any soldier worth his salt should be antiwar. And still there are things worth fighting for."
Norman Schwarzkopf
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>>928427
I just wish we would discover hostile alien races which we could attack as ONE species. All races and religions working together.
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>>925529
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82RTzi5Vt7w
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTyga7HviTU
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>>928392
Nope, it's pretty powerful though
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>>926626
>SOVIETS
>IN
>CHARGE
>OF
>TACTICS
AHAHAHAHA
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>>928361
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>>928455

I dont know why people shit on this movie so much. Not only is it brutal, but it shows how people break down mentally from war.
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>>928291
What a badass baby. Did it survive?
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Spicing it up with some ancient stuff, here's what Polybius recollects at the destruction of Carthage in the Third Punic War:
>Scipio, when he looked upon the city as it was utterly perishing and in the last throes of its complete destruction, is said to have shed tears and wept openly for his enemies. After being wrapped in thought for long, and realizing that all cities, nations, and authorities must, like men, meet their doom; that this happened to Ilium, once a prosperous city, to the empires of Assyria, Media, and Persia, the greatest of their time, and to Macedonia itself, the brilliance of which was so recent, either deliberately or the verses escaping him, he said:
>"A day will come when sacred Troy shall perish, and Priam and his people shall be slain."
>And when Polybius speaking with freedom to him, for he was his teacher, asked him what he meant by the words, they say that without any attempt at concealment he named his own country, for which he feared when he reflected on the fate of all things human. Polybius actually heard him and recalls it in his history.
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>>928263
Robert duvall?
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>>925596
So good.
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These threads always envoke a shiton of emotions. I don't know what i should feel when i see these images everytime.
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>>926185
Damn this hit me like a ton of bricks
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>>925799
Jesus christ
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Are there any good books on the nature of warfare or the psychology of it? It's hard to find any recommendations because I either get "spiritual warfare" or "Psychological warfare" as my results
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>>926594
What were all the hangings for? They ddin't look like soldiers..
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>>928914
"On Killing"

http://www.amazon.com/On-Killing-Psychological-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932

The best book I've read with regards to that subject...
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>>929177
>the cover is the OP image of this thread

lel
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>>926562
You can almost just barely make out what the woman might have looked like.
Brutal
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>this thread

I'm totally giving up plans of joining the military, fuck that
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>>925607
If he was on the losing side he would be put on trial for war crimes.
Good thing he didn't lose then.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLiiV2FWTJg
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>>929498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trmG0mgrkM8
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>>925455
War is literal hell
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>>929392
just choose a support mos

it's pretty comfy, get payed the same, and the you get better job opportunity after you get out

and you don't deal with these shit
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>>925832
Holy fuck that was a crazy read.
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>>928272
His father returned after the war
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>>926185
You can tell the Luigi one is a butterface
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>>929498
>Nainoa Keali'ihokuhelelami Hoe. 1LT US Army

Most un-pronounceable name ever though
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>>925529
>The last thing I saw before putting on the mask were his pleading eyes.
Imagine living with that for the rest of your life.
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>>928163
Context?
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>>930319
ambush
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>>928120

looks like he is doing a guitar solo
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>>928141
>Major Derpa
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>>928946
Probably "Spies"
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>>926654
I read that book when I was in 6th grade, my father gave it to me.

I should reread it.
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>>926767
The Finns would prop up the dead Soviet soldiers to scare the other Soviets
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>>928885
rest in power badassed comrade
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>>925529
Somebody has a hard on for Dan Carlin's hardcock history
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>>925654
Did they die in those locations are those bodies the soviets collected from the area to burn or bury?
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>>928725
You been getting an earful of dan carlin's mispronounced rambling fancies eh
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NEW THREAD >>931110
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>>930857
>>931070
Fuck off Dan.
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>>925618
I liked how he ended the book talking about his elementary girl friends that died of cancer.
Really contrasted to the "useless deaths" of those that died during the war.
O'Brians work is very eye opening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2wL9AawlDA
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My Grandfather fought in the Greek army during world war 2 and the civil war after.
He never talked about it with me, mostly because by the time i was old enough to really care he was 90 and already losing it.
Anyways apparently he was a tank driver and one day the gunner asked him if they could switch positions since he wanted to drive the tank.
They did, then the guy who was driving drove off the path which was cleared of mines.
They hit a mine and since my Grandfather was sitting in the open turret he got blown out of the tank and everyone in his tank crew died except him.
He only lost a part of his thumb. Crazy to think i was this close to not existing
He also apparently was chased through olive fields by Nazis
Then he moves to Canada and opens a successful restaurant which we still run today.
What a great man.
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>>925465
It is reality; human society is the lie itself.
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>>928762
>>928263
Albert Speer.
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>>928243
I don't give a fuck what you think of the elected German government at that time but show some fucking respect for the soldiers
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>>930319
three of our boys are dead and the scum wants to take a picture of it . fuck that country
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>>935149
and the other scum is busy looting behind the americans back. hell on earth, amarite?
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>>930219
thank you for the little ray of light in this thread... it was needed
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