Did the french resistance do anything besides shave the heads of women after the war?
Why?
>>911200
misogyny.
>>911200
They fugged Germans
>>911169
Well it helps delaying the arrival of German reinforcements after June 1944.
But as a French, I have a little story to tell:
>be my grandad, 8 at the Time
>Wermacht is failling back from the village
>some dudes are warming up, drinking and thinking about becoming local heroes
>pick up some hunting rifles, and start attacking the last Germans
> get shot like the brainless individuals they were
>>911169
Mostly gathering intel which was used frequently by the allies. They didn't really have the manpower or equipment to engage the enemy in out and out battles although there were instances of guerrilla warfare. They were also pretty keen at sabotaging supply trains and rallying miners and industrial workers to go on strike.
Fun fact: a lot of the people shaving heads and beating the shit out of German collaborators after liberation weren't members of the resistance. Sartre was one of them and Camus, who was an active member, often gave him shit over this.
>>911169
SEHR GUT AHAHAHA
Apart from that they also created a mythos in order to hide the shame that they were liberated by Anglo nations.
>>911233
Sad story. Hope the guys weren't fathers
>>911169
And they were "the good guys"...
>>911233
ITS LIKE ANOTHER HOLOCAUST
>>911399
Proper history narratives don't have good guys and bad guys, little buddy
>>911403
Yes, it does.
>>911395
Not biologically anyways.
>lose country.
>women fuck superior men
>get saved
>bully your own women
>later get cucked by Muslims
French men, not even once
>>911399
>implying some public humiliation for women who collaborated with invaders is all that horrid
Men were typically shot, and I'd say a bit of public humiliation was worth several years of getting extra rations, security, and luxuries non-collaborating French people didn't get to have
>>911421
Maybe in your objective view of morality that is dictated by the winning forces of various conflicts.
>>911478
1. My first post was sarcastic. Of course the National socialist countries, and Imperial Japan, were the "good guys".
2. Morality is not objective, but good, and evil, (ethical values) are absolute, it's only a matter of determining what constitutes good, and what constitutes evil.
>>911527
Is it evil to commit evil deeds upon evil people?
>>911427
None of this happened.
who raised their kids?
It gathered valuable intel, did sabotage, helped downed allied pilots escape, stuff like that, all while arming and preparing for when France would become a front again. On D-day, it carried out massive sabotage which delayed German reinforcements and was key in allowing the Allies to establish a foothold in Normandy. After that, it went into national insurrection mode, for instance it rose up in Paris and conquered almost the whole city from the Germans. It was also key in preventing the Americans from establishing their occupation government. Then of course there's the Free French Forces which did a lot more stuff.
About the head shaving, it wasn't done by the Resistance or by any organisation but happened spontaneously in certain villages, it targeted women who had slept with Germans and were almost always prostitutes, and France was far from the only country in WW2 to do it, in fact this started in Germany where public shaving was mandated by the Nazis as punishment for German women who had slept with (usually French or Polish) labourers, followed by deportation.
>>911399
they were lucky they didnt get hanged
woman fucking the enemy is the same as man deserting the army
>>911427
>>>women fuck superior men
>women fuck men
ok beta
>>911766
Edgy
>>911169
They assassinated some high ranking german officers. Look at Fritz Hotz.
>>911169
One thing they did was ham up how "big" and "important" the French resistance was. I had a prof who said this, and I also have French exchange student friends who totally agree, and who say it's well recognized in French history classes now how much the postwar government circle jerked and over exaggerated the resistance, and how much they underplayed Vichy fascist France.
From what I've been told, French people postwar were mostly upset with their own government, but they were taking it out on their collaborators.
I really really liked Medal of Honor Underground, growing up.
That's enough justification for me
>>911233
did they died?
>>911790
>not getting fucked by a girl with a feminine penis
You are not gay, are you anon?
>>912845
This
the resistance was far outnumbered by enthusiastic collaborators
>>912877
No it wasn't. It was far outnumbered by people who didn't actively support either side. Which had to do with almost every young man in France being in Germany either as a POW or as a forced labourer.
>>912895
>almost every young man in France being POW or forced labourer
eh what
>>912860
>tfw my first FPS
>>911169
be traitors to France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_d1LQsFpY
>>911208
Are they racist?
>>911169
>>912904
Which part of that is confusing? There had been a general draft and a war which France lost and resulted in all French soldiers becoming POWs. Then under Vichy there was the STO, which forcibly enlisted young Frenchmen to work in Germany.
>>911846
Its true though its basically treason.
>>912928
>>912930
Why?
Are you a racist?
>>912845
No shit, French history classes teach that the resistance was a myth, and that France committed the Shoah as well as starting both world wars and every other crime in human history.
>>912904
there was something called STO (service du travail obligatoire) that played a huge role into forcing a good portion of the population to resist german occupation. Basically, the vichy government was fed up none of it'syouth voluntarily went into german factories to fuel the nazi war effort so they made it mendatory. Lots and lots of young men fled the counry to join the resistance before being drafted into joining german factories, those who did explained how frequent it was to sabotage the production line of german tank (some did by pissing on crucial parts of them).
>>912942
The Axis industry, if Germany lost the state of the French would be conquered by the enemy., Germany's fight was the French's fight.
>>911527
Good and evil are absolute only in so far as good is absolutely good and evil is absolutely evil. This is the only thing to be objectively said of the two, that they are synonymous with themselves.
"Determining what constitutes good, and what constitutes evil" is the subjective process of morality. Narratives don't have good or bad guys.
>>911399
which would you rather between
>a country that shaves women who fugged the enemy
or
>a country that murdered millions directly, invaded sovereign countries, and led to the destruction of an entire generation of european men
>>912985
>a country that murdered millions directly, invaded sovereign countries, and led to the destruction of an entire generation of european men
... and btw also shaves women who fugged the enemy, before deporting them to a concentration camp
>>911846
It's not edgy man, wtf?
>be a soft collaborator
>become liberated, need a scapegoat
>now that it's safe tag along with the maquis
>beat up and humiliate 18 year old girl because she fucked a german
>everybody forgets about my soft collaboration
>70 years on virgins will even defend me
>>912997
That, too. They were treated pretty lightly.
Polish and russian resistance did much more
>>913007
Do those women look 18 years old to you? They were prostitutes.
>>913021
Indeed, but they would have likely gotten killed either way. I guess that's motivation to resist.
>>913007
spot the whore
>>913021
I was wondering how long it would take for a Slav to show up.
>>913027
Thats not mutually exclusive
>>911169
They managed to demobilize 20,000 German troops to conquer some shitty irrelevant hill at the very moment Normandy invasion was occuring
That alone is pretty epic
Also, I heard that most of the women shaving wasnt done by resists but by passives and even collaborators trying to redeem themselves
>>911265
French here
It's both true and false
Our national myth about liberation isnt that we liberated ourselves like you probably think, but that Americans only liberated us
You'll literally never hear of Brits or Canadians in those D-day celebrations in France, it's all about Americans
>>912895
Okay maybe not far outnumbered, but more french were investigated under the epuration legale than were ever members of the resistance
>>913076
>[citation needed]
>>913083
Before D-day the resistance was never larger than 100k. People signed up afterwards of course once it was obvious the landings were a success. 300k were investigated after the war, 120k indicted. Numbers from Wikipedia (I know)
>>913027
Many do, and regardless, women that fall into prostitution in societies where it is frowned upon (regardless of actual demand) are often marginalised and vulnerable. As an out group they are cheap scapegoats, fetish tokens to exorcise guilt from worse criminals within the mob. Mobbings which were committed largely by "the resistance of the last hour" and civilians.
>>913021
Eastern euro and azn resistance was tougher in general, all while under threat of ethnic cleansing. Third worlders are more used to irregular warfare whilst the french tradition (never that powerful in the first place) of such was almost dead.
>>913046
At least we get this for the First World War
>>913308
need to post over a slab for those lads
>>913312
We already sent them a school m8
>>913319
passion pop then
>>913323
Not if we want to maintain bonds of friendship and mutual esteem
>>913046
I don't know french flag traditions, but laying an American flag on the ground is the most disrespectful thing you can do short of stepping on it.
>>913566
The fact that there's so many people around it might mean they're all holding it up
>>913046
>nobody will ever celebrate the dien bien phu k/dr and brodom
>>913021
Especially the Polish
Especially against the Russians
Poland has invested a shitload of money on its army. Something like 2% of GDP is for military spending. I think they also have the 3rd or 4th largest standing army in Europe (barring Russia).
1939 never again
>>913297
It's more that Eastern Europeans were actually having their countries destroyed and their people massacred. It was pretty much fight or die.
Whereas in France the population was basically left alone, as long as the country collaborated economically there was no problem (but acts of resistance were punished with full and indiscriminate brutality). So you pretty much had to be an insane idealist to join the resistance in France where it was much easier to just chill.
>>912930
>having sex with someone who your country is at war with is treason
I don't think you understand what treason is
