How did Islam spread so fast?
They were a bunch of dumb sandniggers but managed to create a giant caliphate from Arabia all the way balls-deep into Spain.
Read this
>>891647
Fear and terror.
>>891647
I guess they must have been fighting against even dumber sandniggers, gyros and dagos?
>>891647
The better question is how they managed to beat the Byzantines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxLxb4Bexs
>This is what Muslims actually believe
Islam as we know today fucked up at around 1200 when one imam forbid "free thinking"
The arabs had much more knowledge than the europeans til free thought was banned. Christian europe was also very strict back then, but the muslims were less oppresive
>>891679
Cont.
Europe became superior after the wealth found in americas and the ideas of liberalism and renissance
Scimitar folded over 500 million times.
>>891647
Pedo-hammad promised them white wominz, a new car and infinite welfare if they made as far as Europe.
>>891679
>le "golden age of islam" meme
It's a myth mate.
Dank beats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0p7RMwviUY
but seriously, it was extreme zeal and terror
They hit the Byzantines and the Persians right between the legs when neither were in a good position to deal with it. Arabia was always a bit of a backwater border-state that the Romans and the Persians tried to exert moderate influence over against one another, but mostly just expected token contributions from them in one direction or another rather than coming out swinging.
Most places rolled over without a big fight.
Also, if you believe the numbers (or, even if they're heavily fudged, consider they still represent military victories), they had more competent generals than their enemies.
>>891647
You know how a bunch of dumb Mongols spread so fast?
Sort of like that. Unification of a people + destabilization of major powers.
Allah's chosen people
>>891659
I guess that makes sense.
What ISIS does now is exactly what they did in the medieval ages, but on a much larger scale (no such thing as "moderates").
>>891734
B-but ISIS is not Islam!
Do we really need this same thread everyday?
>>891745
ISIS follows the Quran literally, they are the real Muslims.
>>891647
It started as a form of Abrahamic puritan movement, a confederation of Arab monotheists convinced the end was nigh and that corrupting influences of paganism and a culture of internecine tribal conflict would damn them all if not pacified. Muhammad was likely one of many such preachers who happened to forge a series of political alliances in the semi-urbanized Western Arabian peninsula. This new confederation of the tribes of Medina, Mecca, and Taif subjugated all others in a few short years under its first ruler, Abu Bakr, before proceeding to unite the other tribes through raids and eventually conquests of Mesopotamia. At this point proto-Islam was still an ecumenical Abrahamic brotherhood, but the rapid growth of the Arab confederation and its territories awoke ancient chauvinist attitudes, and the conquerors began extolling the Abrahamic One God as their own personal deity and they His chosen people.
At this point the leaders began to fashion their confederation as a Divine Empire on the Byzantine and Sassanid model, creating a new court culture in which the movement began to develop as a religion rather than a philosophical movement. The now massive households of these courtiers, including the slaves and extended in-laws, began superimposing their own religious tropes onto the seeming purity of Muhammad and the distant desert far away from the luxury of Mesopotamia. At the periphery of the new empire, however, the old movement was still in play and resisted these centralizing attempts by reaching out to Berbers and Persians to join them in resistance to the Arab court and its governors, especially around the equally pure and mystical nephew of Muhammad, Ali.
>>891831
Once the fighting died down and a short-lived peace established between the Arab governors of Mesopotamia, the inhabitants of the Arabian peninsula, and the local non-Arabs allied to dissident Arab mystics, a new generation of scholars fanned out across the empire gathering stories and traditions from everyone they could in their own quest for proper religion free of the corruption of the government and the cosmopolitan urban landscapes they were born into. Dozens of independent subcultures began to form themselves into schools, or at least student unions pledging themselves to a legendary mystic they took for a teacher. The end result was Islam, and it became synonymous with high culture throughout the Caliphate influencing even non-Muslim or non-Arab clients from Spain to India.
>>891647
>dumb sandniggers
They were longtime merchants; had contact with the outside world, and interests to zeal. Interests that were being widely affected by the slow languish of the Roman and Persian empires. The Hejaz routes were increasingly empty.
Now, they were armed with an ideology which aimed to restore order in the world. They were united around a common purpose. Organized like never before. Restore monotheism and civilization. Thus, restore their dwindling profits.
How they beat the Romans and the Persians in battle it is explainable by the fact that they had excellent commanders, and exceptional mobility. Employed flexibility and agility against the Roman breastplates and Persian cataphracts.
How they prevailed and built a virtually indestructible empire, being absolute minority, it is something that retarded explanations like this >>891659
can not reach.
The reason lies in the initial purpose. With the vast conquers, the Pax Islamica. The routes are once again functional, free trade expands, private property is fixed as a foundation. The society - previously part of two decaying empires - begins to thrive, with low taxation, legal guarantees, and free and secure access to 1/3 of the inhabited world.
>>891647
>Oh its this tread again
>lets try to covertly slip a /pol/ into /his/
Anyway, reasons still remain the same:
Great wealth on the coast cities of the Arabian peninsula because of the Silk Route that opened up trade with the Asian world.
Surprisingly effective military organization under charismatic and unifieng religious leadership provided a strong force to be reckoned with.
What still remained of the Roman Empire had to retreated Byzantium, leaving North Africa and parts of Spain open for the taking.
The implosion of the West Roman empire provided a vacuum that was easily filled.
Islam at the time was a progressive religion preaching social equality that Christianity had originally preached but failed to establish. Islam become a popular competitor.
Conquering was also easier back than as a few thousand men was already considered a huge army.
The Germanic European kingdom were extremely divided. Being in a constant war with each other, they couldn't provide serious resistance in current day Spain and North-Africa.
>>891842
>monotheism
It's funny because Islam has its roots in paganism.
"Allah" was one god out of 300 gods worshipped in Mecca pre-Islam.
A demonic entity paid a visit to Mohammed and then Mo suffered from violent strokes and epileptic attacks with foam running out of his mouth.
The Quran says that Allah is a deceiver.
The Bible says that Satan is a deceiver.
The Quran says that Allah is wise and beautiful.
The Bible says that Satan is wise and masqueraides as an angel of light.
The Quran says that Allah destroys and kills.
The Bible says that Satan is the author of destruction and death.
"Bismillah" in Arabic and "666" in Greek look very similar.
>666 is a holy number in Islam
>666 is the mark of the beast in the Bible
>Islamic end times prophecy is the opposite of the Biblical end times
>Antichrist of the Bible is the Mehdi of Islam
>False Prophet of the Bible is the "Jesus" of Islam
>>891857
Yes Christianity was taken over by the nobles
The whole management system of bishops etc allowed coopting
That's why we have cyinesisus (sp?) a nobleman made a bishop in his middle age but still allowed to be married and fuck his wife and concubines
This carried on into the reaction to nobles taking over and corrupting the church - monasticism
The Cistercians started off all humble and gardening then they hit on the idea that monks could pray for the dead
So some King lives a life of super sin and lots of killing rebels and and anyone who protests as an excuse to steal stuff
Then he leaves acres of peseant farms to the monks so they don't have to fire their own food and can spend their time praying - even though the gardening was the whole point
Then they end up part of the feudal system and owe military service - so bishops involved in battles
Finally as always nobles see land slipping away so do what they always do - use second sons and daughters to take over monasteries etc
It's still a thing in Catholicism that supposedly humble monks and nuns are mega snobs
>>891734
>What ISIS does now is exactly what they did in the medieval ages
Any medieval historian would disagree.
>>891878
>It's funny because Islam has its roots in paganism.
So does literally any organised religion.
>>891878
>666 is the mark of the beast in the Bible
Meme-tacular.
"Convert or die"
When you put swords on people's necks and threaten to behead them, ofcourse you will manage to subjugate many nations.
>>891911
>I have never read the book of Revelation
>>891878
>Implying Christianity isn't also littered with a legacy of European paganism
>Implying everything Christian is 100% original.
Even the creation stories are inspired from Zoroastrian passages.
>>891878
>A demonic entity paid a visit to Mohammed and then Mo suffered from violent strokes and epileptic attacks with foam running out of his mouth.
Sure, anything you say.
>>891805
They follow Quran+ specific hadiths. They all disagree on which hadiths, if any, should be used so most of Muslim attacks are on other Muslims, for blasphemy/apostasy.
>>891919
Roman Catholicism is.
Bible-believing fundamental Christians? No.
>>891916
>666
>not 616
Pleb. I bet you don't even read ancient Greek or Latin.
>>891931
Dont they believe in the Old Testament?
>>891931
The Old Testament is an heavily edited version of ancient pagan Jewish scriptures. They were changed back when Jews dropped paganism, and moved on to monolaterism, then monotheism.
>>891950
0/10 poor bait
>>891931
>catholicism is paganism
Stale meme, where are the proofs?
>>891963
Are you suggesting that Jewish monotheism just appeared ex nihilo, independent of the pagan mythology that surrounded it?
>>891963
Are you saying Jews weren't pagans like the Canaanites and that Yaweh was always the only god in their mythology?
>>891995
Literally hundreds of documentaries and articles.
Constantine made Christianity the "official" religion. It got casualized and compromised in order to make it appeal to the pagan masses. They mixed pagan beliefs and traditions with Christianity, vóila: Roman Catholicism is born.
It became increasingly more corrupt and spiritually dead until the Reformation which brought back a revival of the faith.
>>891801
People need a reason to repeat the same excuses as to why the Byzantines/Persians got unbelievably BTFO rather than accept that the Arabs at the time had great leadership, a relatively acceptable message (perfectly palatable to other arabs/most people they conquered) and smart economic policies
>>892007
If he allowed that idea he couldn't justify the existence of Israel so no he won't
>>892007
>Yaweh
>mythology
So much bait.
So much evolutionist brainwashing.
>>892034
>evolutionist
What?
>>892048
You bought into the
>Jews were pagan Canaanites guiz!
lie.
Jews are not some monolithic group. They refer to the tribe of Judah. Israel had 12 fucking tribes. Israel =/= Jew.
During Roman times, Jew referred to anyone living in the province of Judea.
Now, Jew refers to anyone who believes in the degenerate Talmud.
>>891878
the "demonic" entity that that supposedly visited mohammed was gabriel, an archangel.
an Allah literally means "the god" in arabic.
you're seriously retarded.
>>891943
We do, and we profess Christ as our savior who died for our sins.
However to the "bible believing true CHRISTIANZ" who say that's all that you need to be saved, it doesn't work to profess Christ as savior who died for your sins of you're a Catholic.
>>892010
>Constantine made Christianity the "official" religion
Because he worshipped the sun, saw the Chi-Rho in the sun and after receiving a premonition telling him "put this on you're shields" marked shields with it and won a battle so he thought that doing that would advance Rome as a military conquest machine.
>They mixed pagan beliefs and traditions with Christianity
That had concepts already present in Christianity so to aid in conversion, Christians would permit these select practices to continue only once they had been modified to have a Christ-centered focus and all incompatible-with-Christianity concepts tossed in the >>>/trash/.
And your concept of how early Christianity works is historically retarded and just as much a "mystery religion" as you claim Catholicism is.
And like all claims of some mystery religion hiding in the shadows until some more recent point, it's retarded fanwank by losers trying to seem cool. You are no different than that Wiccan at the coffee shop saying her beliefs all date back to Celtic Druids in 56 BC despite everything she believes ACTUALLY dating back to a 1900's British guy trying to get laid by bored menstrual housewives and concocting some occult theology with a gradeschool knowledge on ancient pantheons and bootlegging an Anglican mass structure into some woody bullshit to try and be "totes authentic yo!"
>>891734
Spot the man speaking out his ass.
>>891878
ayy lmao
>>892552
source for the cave being known for being possessed by jinns?
>>891647
centralism, while christians kindgoms had an international order and relation, muslism allmost didn't have rules against wars, so the big one eated the small ones among themselves and the try to fucked up europe, but they didn't last too much
>>892552
As an ex-muslim I just want to say if you're Christian and hate on Islam kill yourself because your religion isn't anybetter.
>>891671
>sword flies through the air and impales roman soldier
>springboards into roman lines on soldiers body and starts smacking people with his hands
>roman soldiers all clad in nothing but linen and cloth
>whole testudoes collapsing under his foot and wire drawn by two horsemen
just like the real sources, l m a o
>>892599
christianity is much better and has a better footing as a peaceful ideology though desu
and I ain't even christian
>>891647
>dumb sandniggers
/pol/weenie knowing nothing about history and nothing in general besides CHRISTIANS = INNOCENT, MUSLIMS = BAD, surprise surprise.
>>892599
Abrahamic religions all plagiarised each other. Plus even though I'm not intolerant of any religious group, Muslims, Christians and Jews are all as bad as each other when it comes to killing people in their name.
>>892728
the difference being that the early spread of Islam was facilitated by the sword, not so for Christianity
>>892599
> As an ex-muslim I just want to say if you're Christian and hate on Islam kill yourself because your religion isn't anybetter.
A fundamental deference with Christianity is the concept of “render unto Caesar”, which is wholly lacking in Islam and is the root cause for the all trouble Muslims have among each other and with everybody else on the planet.
So yes, Christianity is better then Islam and if Muslims ever want to join the rest of Humanity here in the 21st century, they need to get with the program and enact their own reformation.
>>892736
hehe
>>892961
do you disagree
I'm here for discourse lad
>>891647
It didn't, really. Right into the 18th century, most of the "Islamic" world was non-muslim. The Arabs were fine with non-muslim subjects, in fact many preferred them because they paid higher taxes and were not allowed weapons,making them easier to control. As for the locals, many welcomed the Arabs, seeing them as true monotheists who will settle the then-ongoing conflict between Christianity and Hellenismos. Which, to be fair, they did.
>dumb sandniggers
Muslims have be stupefied by their religion, the Islamic practise of incestuous marriages has led chronic inbreeding, Arabs have as much as a 10 point IQ deficit from this legacy.
>>892961
EARLY spread
>>891647
Medieval Muslims weren't any dumber than Frankish tribesmen, who also managed to a massive cavalry empire in the ashes of a former empire.
Islam also didn't spread very quickly. Forced conversion wasn't really a thing, so the Middle East was majority Christian at least until around 1000. Arabization actually happened slightly faster, because a Jew or Christian could enter most provincial bureaucracies without needing to convert. However, working in government or business required knowledge of Arabic.
By the time of the Crusades, the Aramaic language was essentially obsolete. The vast majority of people in the Levant, regardless of religion, spoke Arabic.
>>891734
Keep in mind, at that time Western armies were just as ruthless. Martin of Tours, Froissart, and dozens of other medieval writers show how widespread rape and massacre were in pre-modern warfare.
>>892964
not him but during the early muslim conquest there was no such thing as as "convert or die" as it would have the effect of the many christian sects fighting to the nails against the arabs instead of working with them against the byzantines, who perecuted them. making conquest harder. the early muslim very tolerant in fact.here is an example during the muslim conquet of egypt
>When Amr took full possession of the city of Alexandria, and settled its affairs, that infidel, the governor of Alexandria, feared, he being both prefect and patriarch of the city under the Romans, that Amr would kill him; therefore he sucked a poisoned ring, and died on the spot. But Sanutius, the believing dux, made known to Amr the circumstances of that militant father, the patriarch Benjamin, and how he was a fugitive from the Romans, through fear of them. Then Amr, son of Al-Asi, wrote to the provinces of Egypt a letter, in which he said: "There is protection and security for the place where Benjamin, the patriarch of the Coptic Christians is, and peace from God; therefore let him come forth secure and tranquil, and administer the affairs of his Church, and the government of his nation." Therefore when the holy Benjamin heard this, he returned to Alexandria with great joy, clothed with the crown of patience and sore conflict which had befallen the orthodox people through their persecution by the heretics, after having been absent during thirteen years, ten of which were years of Heraclius, the misbelieving Roman, with the three years before the Muslims conquered Alexandria. When Benjamin appeared, the people and the whole city rejoiced, and made his arrival known to Sanutius, the dux who believed in Christ, who had settled with the commander Amr that the patriarch should return, and had received a safe-conduct from Amr for him.
As a religion? Taxes and polygamy. Christians and Jews with money often converted regardless, because landing a cushy job as a scribe, judge, or military officer was easier if you see Muslim.
As a political entity? Centuries of war between the Byzantines and Sassanian Empire led to both states being caught unawares. Greek Orthodox repression of heterodox Christians in the Middle East led to many inhabitants of near Eastern provinces accepting Islamic rule akin to the Ukrainian peasantry who welcomed the rampaging Nazi hordes.
>>893028
>Thereupon Sanutius went to the commander and announced that the patriarch had arrived, and Amr gave orders that Benjamin should be brought before him with honour and veneration and love. And Amr, when he saw the patriarch, received him with respect, and said to his companions and private friends: "Verily in all the lands of which we have taken possession hitherto I have never seen a man of God like this man." For the Father Benjamin was beautiful of countenance, excellent in speech, discoursing with calmness and dignity.Then Amr turned to him, and said to him: "Resume the government of all your churches and of your people, and administer their affairs. And if you will pray for me, that I may go to the West and to Pentapolis, and take possession of them, as I have of Egypt, and return to you in safety and speedily, I will do for you all that you shall ask of me." Then the holy Benjamin prayed for Amr, and pronounced an eloquent discourse, which made Amr and those present with him marvel, and which contained words of exhortation and much profit for those that heard him; and he revealed certain matters to Amr, and departed from his presence honoured and revered. And all that the blessed father said to the commander Amr, son of Al-Asi, he found true, and not a letter of it was unfulfilled.
source
http://orthodoxwiki.org/History_of_the_Patriarchs_of_the_Coptic_Church_of_Alexandria
>>891912
That didn't happen, though. The medieval spread of Christianity was more violent.
>>893034
oh the site is dead, here is the alternative
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/severus_hermopolis_hist_alex_patr_01_part1.htm
>>891647
>dumb sandniggers
Why same something like that? It makes you sound stupid and uninterested in actually learning
>>893039
The spread of Christianity was incredibly ruthless as soon as it became the state religion of Rome
European monarchs, almost without exception, used violent means to enforce Christianization after their own conversions.
>>891919
Jesus himself is based on older pagan myths.
oh yes those peace loving spaniards sure did come to latin america with open arms yes, maybe those good christians were being oppresed by the aztecs and got martyred there. oh wow you christards sure are delusional
>>893049
They are dumb tho, mean IQ is 90 across the Arab world. But this is due to inbreeding, not race, and only became a problem long after the conquests so it's not relevant to OP's question.
>>893057
This is true of all state religions, look at the history of religion in India, even before the arrival of Islam.
>>892736
I sometimes wonder whether people actually believe stupid things like these.
>>893068
That's true. In fact, given the mandate of protection for "peoples of the book", the spread of Islam was actually remarkably peaceful.
>>893060
>>893067
lol
>>893083
How do you define popular? First it was limited to the Jews - it being considered a Jewish sect and all. Then it spread to the Roman upper class and mostly women. So of what period and which people exactly are you talking?
lol
>>893083
>Christianity was created when Jesus was born
>>893083
Islam had a peaceful stage just like Christianity, it ended when the Meccans threw Mohammed out and he took up residence in Medina and became a warlord. It was much shorter than the Christian peaceful stage, granted, but it was there.
>>893094
You're completely wrong, Christianity was the religion of the poor (and women). The aristocracy remained pagan until very late, long after Christianity became the state religion.
>>893094
>Then it spread to the Roman upper class and mostly women.
it spread through the lower rungs of society first actually, through slaves and the soldiery
the slaves I assume influenced their mistresses who influenced their husbands, etc etc so and so on
>>893106
given constantine died in 337 and jesus died 30-33 it's nearly perfectly 300 years
>>893107
you think Islam would have spread as much as it did without violence?
>>893107
>You're completely wrong, Christianity was the religion of the poor (and women).
According to the bible and not confirmed by non-biblical sources. This was debunked around 100 years ago when people attacked Marx and Kautsky writing about this.
https://www.gordon.edu/ace/pdf/F&EF09Stark.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_Christianity
>>893119
Even if the dates about Jesus were correct the NT was not written then and no people calling themselves "Christians" existed.
>>893119
>you think Islam would have spread as much as it did without violence?
No, but neither would Christianity. It was the moment the religion becomes THE religion of a state that this pattern of violence emerges, in Christianity as with Islam and even Buddhism and Judaism.
>>893122
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_Christianity
>Stark's basic thesis is that, ultimately, Christianity triumphed over paganism because it improved the quality of life of its adherents at that time.
Yes, but this was the urban poor, not the largely rural elites. Remember this is the East we're talking about, with huge urban centres and intensive agriculture, not Europe with its small towns and rural populations.
>>893135
>>but neither would Christianity.
>but it did
It spread as much as it has without violence? Are you sure about that?
>>893147
yeah, it offered a better alternative to the various flavors of polytheism in the areas it spread to and appealed to many people
>>893144
I specifically asked where and who we are talking about. Point is when Christianity spread to the West i.e. when it stopped being a Jewish sect and non-jews were drawn to it it had a wide appeal amongst the roman upper class. I am not going to argue about Palestine because the only thing I read about this period is marxist historiography.
About the city of Rome on the other hand I read quite a few books and heard many lectures by historians, not by theologists (who as I said care mostly about biblical sources and are leading a pretty autistic discourse).
>>891647
because it is the one true religion
>>892010
>Constantine made Christianity the "official" religion
Stopped reading here because this is how I know you're full of shit
Constantine made it legal to be a Christian
That's it. Theodosius later made it the state religion
>>893058
Reminder that Zeitgeist just makes shit up and the actual pagan myths aren't what Zeitgeist said they were
Fuck
>>891647
>persia and ere were being dicks
>arabs show up and say they'll lower the taxes and let everyone keep their religions and gubmint jobs
>open the gates, boys
Letting non-Arabs convert to Islam was an enormously controversial decision, made by one of the later caliphates. "Spread by the sword" is a meme.
>>893172
I don't know whatever the fuck Zeitgeist is but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_comparative_mythology
>>893180
And all of the "comparison" is based on bullshit
>>>/tinfoil/
>>893188
No idea who are you arguing with but the wiki article clearly states that serious scholars defend idea of Jesus story being influenced by older myths. I mean I am not going to go all The White Goddess on you but the NT was written by (Hellenic) Jews probably with some education i.e. knowledge of these texts. If you don't think that all the magic in the NT really happened and that the NT is rather a product of classic literature and not a res gestae there is logically pretty much no way around this. We know that parts of and especially Luke were strongly influenced by this. Now stop memeing.
>>893188
>your argument is shit cause I say so and cannot be bothered to read
>>893199
You shoulda posted the one where she looks like she's having a seizure.
>It's a "How did Islam manage to get so big?" thread with OP not willing to accept any narrative outside their own
>>893213
The OP included "dumb sandniggers". It is a badly disguised /pol/ thread but I like that some people are really trying to stop this place from becoming a shit hole like /pol/.
Also fuck the OP if doesn't accept other narratives. There are some good posts ITT.
>>891647
Arabia was mostly inhabited by nomadic bedouins who where in near constant warfare with each other until they were united by Muhammad. Once they were united they began raiding Mesopotamia only to find that the byzantines and the Persians had beaten each other bloody and their highly mobile nomad armies were free to sweep across the region. And once the nomadic berbers in North Africa converted they defeated the visigoth king and in the resulting chaos they conquered the Peninsula.
Tl:Dr United nomads are military power houses
>>891689
Lol ok
>>893217
Weak post. We already covered and and it is well documented that there was a lot of trade on the Arabian peninsula going on (literally like always) and that there were merchants and rich cities. The nomadic part is really just a small part of the story.
>>891805
No what
>It's scary how rapidly successful Islam was from the beginning, it only took about 100 years for them to become a dominant political power despite strong opposition. It must've been a ruthless combination of intimidation, heavy taxation of non-Muslims, and violence that tricked so many people into submitting to it.
>It's amazing how rapidly Christianity spread across the Roman Empire and beyond. Despite consistent, overwhelming persecution by the pagan religion, within 400 years they became a dominant political power. The only explanation must've been increased standards of living brought by the Church, helping the poor and sick, abolishing slavery, and spreading education to everyone. Along with a little divine intervention no doubt ;)
/his/ was a mistake
>>893250
>Christianity ended slavery
>>893224
You seem to have inferred false points from my post. I never said that there wasn't trade in the Peninsula. Bedouins (who were by far the majority on the Peninsula at this point) raided each other and fought skirmishes as a fact of life. When the bedouins united on the Peninsula they stopped fighting each other but warfare was an inherent part of bedouins lifestyle and while there are thriving urban centers on the Peninsula it was (again) largely dominated by nomads until after the conquest, the bedouins continued the raids that they had been doing for centuries only focused towards a different target. The Arab conquest was momentum driven, it started as bedouin raids that were common place on the Peninsula prior to Muhammad, they were successful and surprised by the lack of resistance and soon the bedouin generals launched full scale invasion.
>>891647
Spread by the sword through war and conquering
>>891734
Then why the fuck did they not raze Palmyra?
>>893180
Basically it's that Jesus did 9/11
>>891664
Plague weakened them pretty bad
>>891664
ERE and Persia had just finished a nearly apocalyptic 30 year war against each other.
>>893122
>Rodney Stark
>>891647
With Allah, all things are possible
>>891664
They were the Byzantines in a sense. Regular mercenaries that fought for them for centuries that united the desert tribes of Byzantine territories and the non-Greek majority of the landholders, bureaucrats, and workmen of Egypt, Syria, and Mesopotamia against the Latin and Greek elite of Constantinople.
People think of the Roman world as being split into Latin and Greek hemispheres, but starting with Late Antiquity there was also a Germanic, Slavic, and Semitic Roman world that had begun to replace the once dominant Latin and Greek colonies of the Mediterranean wiped out and weakened by plague.
four times in a week now
>>891647
Well for starts they weren't dumb, or any dumber than anyone else in any other area of the world at any other time. Also, cocks.
>>891734
>umayyad
ebin
>>891671
Is this a live action anime
>>891656
>>891647
>this same butthurt thread
Stay mad faggots
>>893250
I lol'd, the Teutonics constantly launched violent crusades into pagan lands
>>893250
>Quran
Tells you to kill unbelievers.
You go to heaven by dying for Allah.
>Bible
Tells you to love your enemies.
God died so you could go to heaven.
It's really simple, you self-hating white-guilt ridden liberal piece of shit.
>>894176
Mad as fukk
>>891647
>dumb
White people were much dumber than present-day nigs for almost a millenium.
>>894179
I don't hate my own heritage. I'm not an insecure militant libtard like you.
Don't you have Tyrone's dick to suck off?
>>893068
If you believe in IQ you are retarded. Not saying that the middle east is the brightest place around but its a poor measurement.
Why do racists think their hateful bullshit is compatible with christianity?
>>894176
> white guilt
But christianity is the religion of guilt
>>894336
Most people who suffer from white-guilt are liberal atheists.
Look at the fucking west and its multiculturalism.
>>894189
Delicious tears
>>894345
I can't hear you. I only hear gobble gobble.
Try taking your mouth off Ahmed's dick before talking.
>>891671
Isn't this the song from Gladiator?
>>891734
That must be why Egypt and southern France welcomed the Muslims with open arms.
>>892736
>The fucking Roman Empire
>Charlemagne
>Northern crusades
>Wars of religion
>Roman Catholic Church in the Americas, Africa
Nope nothing violent at all here
>>891878
Why do muslims use the moon to represent Islam? Was it a pagan symbol left by the meccans?
>>893083
Many people in South Asia and Africa were interested in Islam before conquest.
>>896535
Nuh it was a Ottoman Sympol
>>891842
Great post
>>891842
I have heard that religion spreads more through economic means than conflict
>>896535
Popularized by the Seljuk Turks. Islam doesn't really have an official emblem or insignia. That's why most early Islamic banners were just colors, God's names or profession of faith.
>>896535
The Black Standard, mate
>>894176
I hate Islam as well
A number of factors, it's not easy to wrap it up in a narrative. The best summary is just pointing out all the various factors that allowed the muslims to prosper in the world around them, but then that calls in to question how they took advantage of that and you realize you'll probably have to read a book or several.
Few things can galvanize a man like a belief in something bigger than himself.
>>897033
Not a religious symbol. It's a military one.
Which is why Jihadi groups today love it.
>>891647
Doesn't matter, DEUS VULT!
