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Change one event in history and fix everything. Go.
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Birth of mohammed.
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The Mongolian empire never really collapsed
>we Mongols now
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Umayyads conquer the Franks

Would've solved so much stuff
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>>886821
Lincoln gets discouraged and becomes a lumberjack.
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Darwin's 'warm little pond' evaporates in the sun.
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>>886821
jesus doesn't cuck humanity
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>>886821
Idk how you'd cure caner, but if Frederick III could live long enough to reign properly we'd see a more liberal German Empire, allied with Great Britain and derailed the whole modern world.
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America never brought in slaves.
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>>886915
we wuz mongols n sheet

>we mongols
>islam is fucked
>europe, middle east, south asia, east asia are all connected (mongols were already composing global history about middle east/china/india at this point)
>africa might be mongol
>trade florish
>age of enlightenment come quicker
>science is jumpstarted couple hundred years earlier
>we wuz mongol space empire n sheet
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Kill Ricimer before kills Majorian.
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1917 world revolution.
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Make it so I wasn't depressed in high school.

I wouldn't change anything else. I might undo my own birth. I don't think I would exist if Hitler never invaded Russia.
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Kill Abraham
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>>887137
God bless the Glorious Nation of Finlandia
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>>887140
I dream about this.

So close...and then the chance was snatched away.
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>>886821

Stop humans migrating out of Africa
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>>886821
Agriculture never really gets going.
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Pilate decides NOT to crucify Jesus.
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America doesn't revolt against the British
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>>886821
Stolipin doesnt get killed in Kiev theater.
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>>886821
>be finnish
>get down to business to defeat the hwan
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>>886821
Make Austria-Hungary's only punishment after WWI be losing Serbia and Bosnia.
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SPD fucking over the German Revolution
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>>887431
Remember; liberals and social democrats will always side with fascists and reactionaries when push comes to shove.
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Alexander never gets hit with that damn arrow.

If he lived longer he would have United the entire indo-European gene pool under one flag. We could be one glorious civilized nation, speaking and writing a composite language. Kiss Christianity goodbye.
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Make Germany win WWI.
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>>887330
YES. Do it, Finnbro!
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Axis wins WWII.
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>>887431
FUCKING THIS REEEE
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Prevent the Big Bang, fix literally everything.
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>>886821
No Protestant Reformation
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>>887125
America never achieves economic superpowerdom.
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Don't give women any rights
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>>886927
Cyrus never freed the Jews from the Babylonians
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>>886821
The universe is not anymore.
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Shut this guy up.
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Humanity exists
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>>886923
This desu
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Diocletian never retires
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>>886821
The inventor of the Greek Fire never makes to Constantinople.
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Germany wins WWII
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>>887769
This is a great answer. Similarly, the Jews never leave Egypt during the fungal explosion that we know as the plagues.
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Kill Julius Caesar before he conquered anywhere
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Have Nap deploy the Guard at Borodino
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Alexander doesn't get sick.

Hopefully then he can hellenize the arabian peninsula.
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>>886821
Stop the reformation.
>no American revolution
>No French revolution
>no world wars
>no republicans
>no Nazis
>no commies
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The British help the Taiping rebels instead of the Qing.
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>>886821

>We never went to Africa for slaves

>They would still be hunting in tribes, as they should. We would have much less crime in our societies.
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>>888428
This
Also no Julius Caesar's assasination so Germania would be conquered
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>>886821
Marx dies in the womb.

or (stolen from a /his/ thread couple months ago)

Charles XII of Sweden doesn't try to press into inner Russia after Narva. He takes St. Petersburg, fortifies it and locks Ivan out of the Baltic. Russia withers on the vine. All of Europe's problems are solved, no cold war, Sweden becomes empire instead of tragic bunch of cucks.
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Japan never goes hardliner and invade Manchuria, and thus never enters WW2.
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Lucifer doesn't rebel.
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>No religion
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Stop the end of the Ottoman Empire.
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Big Bang implodes
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>>888842
>I know nothing about cosmology
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>>888842
The big bang is a myth invented by evolutiontards
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>>888869
I gave ur mum a big bang
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>>888864
There are equal amounts of matter & antimatter & they completely annihilate each other.
>Better?
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>>886821
Constantine is defeated at the Milvian Bridge and dies on the field of battle.
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OP's mom gets an abortion
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Kill Hitler. It was easy.
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Niggers the true answer is :
Make Trajan conquer the rest of Syria
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Italy gets booted from the Axis Powers to make room for the U.S. to join. The U.S. aids Japan and Germany instead of the U.K./USSR. The A-bombs are dropped on the British and/or the Soviets. The world is split between the USA, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan. Three nations under god, one world under three nations.
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This thread is never made.
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Hero of Alexandria's steam engine is recognized for its potential and the industrial revolution starts centuries earlier.
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>>889385
Tbh at the rate of cultural diffusion across the empire in pretty sure it just means Coptic Egypt would become the new power and tear the middle East an new asshole while breaking away from Roman suzerain.
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>>889401

Well then the industrial revolution starts in Egypt and the Middle East gets steamrolled.

I have zero problems with that.
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>>889435
I wouldn't mind Egyptian cultural attitudes becoming the basis for western culture. I'm only superficially familiar with how that might play out; any experts want to take a fanciful crack at it?
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>>889569
That's already what happened innit? Greece was basically an Egypt knock-off. Most of European development was imported from the east.
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England sees the potential in a-mercia and moves there
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I can't believe no one has said it yet.
Zheng He is allowed to continue the Treasure Voyages.
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>>888699
Wew. This is why redpills are no substitution for actually reading history books. I blame primary school history curriculum.
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>>889738
relevant for South and Southeast Asia but nothing else of importance would have happened anon
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Prevent the firing of the Giza mass autism ray
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>Joseph McCarthy is never born

L I B E R T ξ
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>>886861
You want those Arabs even more out of control?
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>>889283
Top fucking Kek
That shit would last all of five minutes
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>>888800
There was no St. Petersburg until Charles went full autist on Poland.
All he had to do was stay out of harm's way before Poltova and everything Peter worked for would've folded like a house of cards. The best vourse of action is Peter is killed while playing with his navy and the Church and Russian noblemen make Alexi sign a treaty with Charles.
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>>886821
Prevent the Plague of Justinian.
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>go back to the Americas circa ~ 0 AD
>cough on everyone I see
>indians will have developed immunity by the time Europeans come
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The human race evolves in the sea rather than land.
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>>890056
They're called dolphins.
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>>889930
Why?
They were mostly a culture of traders under pressure by christianity and jews.
They got kinda along though.
Afghanistan and Persia would still have much more elements of their old religious culture, Pakistan would be less shitty and north africa a sandy version of europe.
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>>890094
mongols were converting en-masse to islam after genghis khan died. something like the seljuks or the timurids would have happened, instead it ltl be much stronger
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>>890148
You mean central asia would have been stronger and more devastating then the islamic expansion?
I dont know man, central asians sucked at fighting in woods, also the Sassanids wouldnt have been wrecked that hard and be another foe to keep them contained.
(Sassanids actually had good relations with the chinese and indians, these three high civilisations may have helped each other out if faced with a common threat from the steppes.)

Manechäism was already a monotheisthic alternative for them, so I dont believe some other even more warlike cult would have replaced the arab reaction to christianity.
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>>886821
The Norman invasion of Britain fails. No eternal anglo dividing the countries of Europe against each other equals a much better world.
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>>886821
Birth of the Universe never happened
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I would stop the beginning of the Finno-Korean Hyper War.

We could be colonizing Alpha Centauri right now.
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>>887180
/thread
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Napoleon never antagonizes the Germans, the intense post-French revolution rivalry between the two nations is averted, and the Franco-Prussian war potentially doesn't happen, which in turn decreases the odds of the World Wars happening.

Hell, maybe no French revolution at all.
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Fourth Crusade never happens
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>>886821
Swedes won the Battle of Poltava in 1709.
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Kill Bismarck
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>>888839
>Stop the end of the Ottoman Empire.
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>>886821
Maccabean revolt fails or never starts, Hellenism conquers the Holy Lands before they ever become holy
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The burning of a certain library in Alexandria
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Theodosius names Stilicho as his successor instead of his retarded sons
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>>886821
As the Jews are fleeing Pharaoh, the Red Sea is parted, once they are all in the crossing, have the sea close back up drowning all of Jewry
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>>890456
A retarded image. Ottomans were against wahabism and extremist islam. They fought and even executed some of the saudi imams-warlords.

Brits around WWI alligned themselves with arabs, extremist or not against Ottomans.

I deeply believe that had Ottocucks controlled holy lands today muslims would much less extremist.
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>>891117
There trade concessions with Europe made their collapse inevitable once industry kicked up and they were left behind.

Still not sure how to fix that.
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>>887338
>AH collapsed because of internal strife, not because of allied demands.
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>>887513
Quality answer, probably prevents both Hitler and Stalin from rising to power. Plus French colonial holdings would get a healthy dose of German efficiency.
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>>886821
Finland beats the Hwan Empire in the Hyper Wars
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>>891807

It's the Hyper Wars. Everyone won and everyone lost.
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John Comneno is not assassinated
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>>891807

I know, right?

The Finns would have gone on to liberate Mimas from the Nazi occupation, but the people there are living under anachronistic tyranny to this day because those Hwan bastards were too cold-blooded to lend a helping had.

Fucking Goebbels-bot needs a thermite charge to the torso.
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>>889915
"libertdz", "libertx" ?
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The word of Sextus Empiricus replaces the word of Jesus.
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Hitler wins.
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>>887469
I'm new, can you explain further in depth ?
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Favre doesn't throw the last minute interception, kick a field goal and win. Go on to play the Colts and Favre and Peterson get a well deserved ring because those two were unstoppable. After that every Vikings fan and the entire organization can kill themselves because they'll finally be at peace and nothing can go wrong for them anymore.
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>>886821
Murder the guys who killed Aurelian before they got the chance.
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>>892724
tfw I'm a saintsfag
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>>886821
Stop the big bang from happening.
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>>888838
>being this retarded
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>>892766
>have to suplex brees because he won't go down
>brees pushes and punches a vikings player
>vikings get penalized
I'm still mad about it to this day
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>>887802
Only right answer
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>>892724
To be fair that Favre interception wasnt what lost the game. What lost the game was ultimately that blown 4 down call in OT. That abd if AP doesnt fumble it a whole bunch or if the refs call any of those penalties about roughing the passer they seem to be fond of right now thats a whole different game. Im not even a vikings fan but that game pissed me off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRd5jkJ1dEo
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>>892904
it's been what, nearly 7 years now? I've nearly forgotten about all of these blown calls. Favre was our savior, and the last tough qb of his era.
RIP what almost was
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>>890251
How does the Norman invasion make Europe fragment?
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>>887802
He was just taking Hegel's ideas to their logical conclusion. Shutting him up would do nothing, the fire rises
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>>890470
That means literally everyone west of China would worship PIE gods. When they figured out they were just different versions of the same god, that unity would be incredible. The West would be a proud counterpart to the east.
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>>886821


Get modern medical treatment for Alexander the Great, help him conquer Arabia and lay the foundations for a lasting Hellenisation of the Near East.
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>>887159
>>887140
elaborate?

what can i wiki to read about this?
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>>892659
Alexander died when he was absurdly young. He United the Hellenic world, egypt, and all of Persia under his control. He was starting to invade India when he was wounded by an enemy archer. He had the largest army in the world, and was facing a fragmented enemy who had never fought against tactics from so far west. Had he survived, it's almost a forgone conclusion that he would have conquered India. That's the entire world worth conquering that isn't Carthage, or separated by the tallest mountains in the world, followed by a huge Fuck off desert.

I mean, if he did conquer india, he'd probably try to take China too, because at that part, he knows for a fact he's the greatest human being who ever lived, and all of humanity would have one uniting idea to get under. Alexander the God. And at that point, who could challenge it? Who else but a God could conquer *everyone*? Especially from a tiny kingdom at the edge of the world. Earth might be known as Alexandria. Science and culture would diffuse at a much greater rate, the ancients would have a greater idea of how big the world is, to say nothing of trade. Once the west and easy get a taste of each other, there's be no way we'd ever have a dark age, even if the empire fragmented. Give Alexander's dynasty 75 years, and I guarantee we'd have reached a better reality.
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Templars are not dismantled!
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>>887180
same
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Stop the end of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.
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>>892659
He's a faggot fedora
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>>893523
>I mean, if he did conquer india, he'd probably try to take China too,

Except Alexander died in Babylonia. He'd given up pushing Eastward and had plans in the way for invasions of Arabia and Italy. Lands closer to his Babylonian base for his empire.
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>>893846
Yep. Poison arrow, or infected wound. That's what called off the Indian invasion. At very least I wish he had his prostate milked into a few girls so he had an heir.
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>>889960
I kek'd heartily. This is beautiful.
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>>893523
>>893846

Alexander's next objective was Arabia, after which he would have turned west, and taken on Rome and Carthage. He has signed a treaty with the Mauryans that secured his eastern borders, no way he would ever have tried to conquer India tho with his Empire standing for longer, you'd see a lot more Yona influence in Indian history.
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>>893870
>so he had an heir.

But he did have an heir, Kassander murdered him while he was still a boy. If Alex had lived just ten years longer his heir would have been old enough to succeed him.
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>>893870
>Dude Alex was a homo lmao xD
>>>/lgbt/
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>>889828
Except for China developing advanced ship technology and eventually discovering Narth America, no I suppose not
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>>886821
The great heathen army wins in 1066. christians cucked for centuries, pagan england reigns supreme.
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>>894138
Someone's butthurt
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>>888800

This.
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>>887137

>Mongols convert to Islam
>Europe, Middle East South Asia, and East Asia are now all Muslim.
>Mongols finish killing off all the scholars in the civilized sedentary nations under their rule
>Just as the Mongols destroyed Chinese proto-industrial development, Europe never succeeds in advancing beyond the medieval stage
>We're now all living in a global Afghanistan.
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To stop the Easter Rising perpetrators from being executed
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>>886821
my mother should have swallowed
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>>893485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1917%E2%80%9323
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>>887138
;_;
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>>887513
how would you even do this

Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans were such shitty allies to have in the war it was basically Germany vs the World until the World out-manpowered Germany

assuming Austria declared on Serbia and kickstarted the war how the hell would you influence events so that Germany would win?
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>>890571
what would that have changed
Honorius was still dancing to Stillicho's tune his entire life and the WRE still collapsed.
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>>894104
Alexs had so many plans but the most credible sequence of events had he lived was Arabia, Carthage, West North Africa, Western Mediterranean, Black Sea region.
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>>887138
>>894259

I missed this one .... dayum
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Hitler somehow manages to get the German nationals in Poland to be sent to Germany
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>>887802
>implying you can stop historical inevitability
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>>888888
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>>886821
German naval policy in the early 20th century switches from capital ship production to solely submarines and sub development
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>>886967
This triggers le liberal German
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>>886821
Integrate the goths into the Roman Empire
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>>889960
Tbh I like this idea
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>>890251
Not to mention all that rich Anglo-Saxon culture gets preserved
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>>889223
>when you actually think one single person was responsible for national-socialism and WII
If Hitler hadn't existed, some other fucker would have taken his place, more or less. maybe we wouldn't know the evil guys as "the nazis" and maybe the war would have started and ended at a different point in time, but to assume all that shit only happened because Hitler was kind of a mean person is very shallow.
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>>891141
The Ottomans would've been oil rich.
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>>886821
have the Aeolipile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile) take off, so we could have had an industrial revolution 2000 years earlier, and i could be drinking coffee with Milky Way President Mitt Romney right now
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the end of mathriarcal age
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>>894270
Scrap the Schleiffen Plan. Stops Germany from invading Belgium. The Russians mobilised too quickly and the Belgians put up to much resistance for it to work. Invading Belgium turned the British public against Germany overnight AND gave the British government a legal reason to enter the war. Fighting Britain in the Atlantic brought America into the war and split Germany's resources between the Army and Navy. The Russians were underequipped; Germany only needed a paltry force to defend against them because the Germans in WWI were hardcore and the Russians were badly organised. Focus on France and win.

Or just fight a defensive war and bleed everyone dry.
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>>895576
>be germany, 1914
>want to avoid a war on two fronts because my allies are both dipshits
>i know, i'll invade belgium for better access to france
>GB declares war
>now have a war on three fronts
>allies still dipshits
FUCK
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>>887140
>>887159
>>894238
Filthy marxists
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Make sure I'm never born to fuck up global history with whatever idiotic decision I make.
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I'd teach Alexander the Great how to create electricity.
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>>886821

Strangle Abraham
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>>895784
What good would that do Lee Harvey Oswald already shoots the nigga dead.
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Marshall Piłsudski doesn't die before 1940, Hitler and Piłsudski have good relations between each other, each recognizes Soviet Communism as the true enemy, instead of Beck being sent to negotiate on Danzig, and having no political power to agree to the terms demanded then, its Piłsudski who personally negotiates a good deal on Danzig with Hitler that guarantees Polands access to the sea and to a Navy, and to a safe German diaspora living there.

WWII as we know it is averted, millions of Europeans live, both Nazi Germany and Poland at this point stand as a strong buffer against Stalin, secret talks between Germany, Poland, Finland and Great Britain to contain Stalin and prevent the spread of the reds. USA remains mostly isolationist, maybe only fighting against Imperial Japan, but not Nazi Germany.

There might be a cold war scenario in Europe, or a major war with USSR with Poland and Finlands borders the frontline, but backed by superior German forces, they may be contained, Moscow might be occupied, Stalin caught and executed, Communism wiped out, one could only wish.

I really want to know what the most likely scenario for this would be but the truth is its such a significant branch point in history that no one can ever know with certainty how it would play it, if the Danzig issue was solved and Poland was never invaded. Would the war only happen against the USSR or would tensions from WWI erupt anyways? With Poland at least not invaded, but France their ally would be by Germany, would the Poles agree to that? I'd like to imagine Europe throwing away their old rivalries and grudges and focusing on the main enemy of Soviet communism but there are so many factors involved around the time that WWII might be inevitable no matter how long it is postponed.

The whole idea of "lebensraum" to the east, would that still be the case if the Danzig was solved peacefully and Germany and Poland had no pressing reason to go to war especially with the Soviets at their door?
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>>895793
>Lee Harvey Oswald
>Implying he was the one on the grassy knoll

Martians assasinated Ferdinand in Dallas.

t. knower
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>>891257
>mfw a filthy pleb says that to me
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>>894138
Just play crusader kings and masturbate
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>>894157
>Chinese proto industrial development

Like what
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>>895731
Why him. He was a mass murdering drunkard.
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Prevent any possible iteration of WWI from happening.

You can't name me one thing that would be worse.
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>Zhuge Liang sides with Cao Cao
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>>895885
The extension of the French and British Empire.
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>>892611
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>>895697
Kill yourself liberal/monarchist/fascist whatever you are
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Pneumatic mail never dies
20th century pneumatic information age
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Waterloo
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The sinking of doggerland
never forget.
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>>897383
>Britain connected to the continent

I couldn't imagine a worse kind of hell
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A world without Hegel.
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>>897383
The 100 years war would be bretty interesting
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Byzantines beat back ottomans

Not that it would fix anything, but I wonder what would happen if the Greek and roman classics never reached italy. Would the Greeks stay as the tech leaders of Europe, or would the printing press maintain historical inevitablility?
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>>895870
Yeah, but what if he was a mass murdering drunkard who knew how to harness electricity as a weapon?

That'd be pretty interesting.
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>>895518
MFW Ottoman Petrolium Exporting Continent
A regime change would be hard huh
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>>897411
>no Stirner
>no funny Hegel maymays

Just remove Marx.
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>>897680
Electrcity as a weapon? How about just having fucking light at night? The Baghdad batteries, whether they were actually batteries or not, have been shown to produce about one volt DC with vinegar and lemon juice; a few hundred would be a pittance to Alexander's empire. Glassblowing was within their abilities, and they could probably make a decent vacuum lightbulb. Even if it was just a flashbulb, he could make people kneel by *proving* to them he can brighten the night. Alexander enshrines himself as God of Light.
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>>886923
Why?
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>>895805
But it's true you dumb motherfucker go read some history.
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>>893470
>
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The Old Testament never existed in any form ever.
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>which race should we use as cheap labor in our new plantatons in the Americas
>let us buy some blonde blue eyed ukrainians from the tatars and ginger irish qts from the barbary pirates and use them to populate the colonies, their hair color will differentiate them from us black haired spaniards and as a bonus we will stick it to that evil ginger protestant english queen
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>>897850
Oh god why didn't this happen
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>Persia conquers Greece
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Would have pulled out early.
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>>886821
Evolution of Australopithecus.
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>>886821
Kill Jesus
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>>897429
if the byzantines beat back the ottomans they would've been fucked anyway
they were a dying empire surrounded by enemies
at the end of their existence the royal jewels were glass
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U.S. sends 40,000 soldiers to aid the white army after ww1 instead of 5,000.
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>>898028
>being this edgy
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>>897935
Persia then expands into Europe
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>>898088
and whites are getting rekt anyway
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>>888321
Better: He is warned early enough of the assassination attempt, co-governs with Octavian until the latter takes over who's children by the way don't die of stupid accidents.
There history is saved
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>>886821
Kill that bitch Eve. Have gay sex with the snake forever after.
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>>886821
Three possible changes:

1. Mongols never attempt to exterminate Islam, removing the foundation for modern radicalism.

2. Franco-Mongol alliance actually happens, Islam is exterminated, Christianity and Buddhism become the dominant religions in the near east.

3. Japanese-American alliance forcibly decolonizes Asia and Africa beginning in 1928, ending global European dominance a few decades early.
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Roman land ownership laws are effectively enforced, succesfully preventing the senatorial families from assembling vast estates at the expense of peasant farmers who were necessary to the Roman Republic's military.

>>896924
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>>898028
Spoiler Alert: Jesus dies in all 4 Gospels
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>>886821
>stop creation of big man politics in Kongo in year XXXX
>keep Atlantic slave trade from being viable
>Europe barely colonizes Americas
>globalization never gets off the ground
>world peace cause no world wars.
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I wouldn't want to go back too far because I think most things are on an ok track. I'd save RFK.
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Napoleon wins the Patriotic war of 1812
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>>902802

>on an ok track

We could have had steam power a thousand goddamn years ago.
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>>886923
This, so much.
Also French revolution.
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I prevent the idea of Monocausality.
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>>894157
>Implying islam is fucking counter-science
>implying mongols gave a fuck about religion
my god.. you're fucking stupid.
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>>891104
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don't let eve eat the fruit
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>>895885
French and British rule over africa would be much longer, we would have ten times more terrorist attacks and dead africans
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>>895640
kek, /thread
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>>894138
Gloriously this
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>>886935
this
life was a mistake desu
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Kill john the apostle and stop the spread of abrahamic religion. Rome never succumbs to Christianity, Judaism survives with a minor christian cult that may or may not get absorbed. Islam is never formed.
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>>887431
Spinning Pile Driver?
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>>886935
sheeeit
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