What if Ottomans (not Goths) were actually the ones who destroyed Roman Impire.
>>886099
>tfw the byzantines looked like turks
But the Ottomans were Roman.
>>886129
No, Romans had Impire once, but Ottomans were muslim turcroaches which invaded Byzantee.
Jeezus kids, you know nothing about history, wtf are you doings here? Are you Ameritard or just underage?
And this is turkroach muslim Impire.
>>886190
Turks are about as equally Roman as Greeks which is to say they aren't.
Heck even your broken English is identical to that of a Turk.
>>886099
The empire was destroyed in 1204, from then on it just extended it's slow death
>>886209
>Idiot can't divide Ottoman from Romans
>blames my English on his stupidity
ok, American confirmed.
If Eastern Rome was Rome then I see no reason why Holy Roman Empire couldn't have also been Rome.
>>886243
>Eastern ROMAN Empire
>seamless transition from the original imperial government to the eastern half
>both western and eastern splits were equally legitimate and considered Roman
>spent years trying to reclaim the west after the collapse, and were succeeding. Only stopped because of internal issues
>Holy >Roman >Empire
>their only claim is a german going "WE ROMANS NOW MANG SHEEEEEEEEEEIT" and getting crowned by the Pope
>>886790
>greek-speaking
>orthodox
>not in control of rome
it was both Germans and Greeks pulling a full "we wuz"
>>886209
Rome defined Western civilization. Wester civilization defined global civilization. We are all Roman.
>>886868
>>greek-speaking
The vast majority of the empire never spoke Latin, either. Local languages still thrived, and from day one the east always spoke Greek and Aramaic, and very quickly the western upper class all started to speak Greek too. The language you speak has nothing to do with being a Roman or not.
>>orthodox
And the west was Catholic, not much better.
>>not in control of rome
The city of Rome was a backwater shithole even during the later days of the united empire, and in the west they moved their capital to Ravenna. Even then, Eastern Rome controlled the city of Rome for centuries.
