If there was contact between the Old World and the New World before 1492 how come smallpox was never transmitted from these encounters, or if it was why didn't it create a pandemic like it did after the Spanish arrived?
because when the vikings and other europeans and asians came they didnt insist on fucking everything that walked
Smallpox is a post revision theory. They dont want to hurt their descendants' feelings. Those europeans were literal mass murderers. So instead they said they introduced a small disease, that is tthe blemish of their small shame for being so small.
>>840362
>>>>>>/tumblr/
>>840362
That did their small killing for them. Under this new clause, the last smallpox pandemic went ignored by the media. Keep america isolated while it destroys information then bring the internet to clear things up
>>840367
Theres a reason for that bcg scar ya know.
>>840362
People can tolerate someone else being more powerful than they are; they cannot tolerate people being more intelligent than they are.
The catholics murdered tens of millions of natives during their conquistadora phase. Tens of millions.
>>840383
What happened to your meme arrows?
And while the European colonists did plenty of bad things, small pox is not revisionist bullshit.
>>840372
Are you saying natives were smarter than europeans? I find that highly doubtful. I am from Canada, most natives I encounter are either poor or mentally retarded... There are only a few tribes that run themselves successfully, and most are half-breeds.
It actually makes me very sad, because we have a huge problem with them killing and raping each other.
>>839981
So this actually just requires easy logic OP. Indigenous people in Latin America were usually gathered in higher densities than native tribes in Northern America with which the Vikings came into contact. Hence, since smallpox (and other diseases) need a minimum population to sustain, this wasn't happening in the North. Small tribes may have been infected, but they either died or were cured before they could spread it to other tribes.
>>840580
Our family unit is destroyed due to your disastrous assimilation policies.
We are striving to reestablish our culture in a meaningful way and speak our languages fluently.
We are an intelligent people, a prole proud of our spiritual heritage and it is imperative we restore these pillars.
Indeed there are those among us who may have done something along the lines of European atrocities had we consolidated an Empire.
I don't forgive you.
t. Nehiyaw patriot
>>840602
Natives basically can't lift themselves out of poverty, and that's after they spend their 2000 dollar allowance on drugs. We didn't oppress them infact we tried to allie with them.
Here is a scenerio, you have some natives out in the woods, instead of tending to their crops they attack their neighbor and rape his daughters. This is the same situation we are facing today. The reason that the missing native women investigation is taking so long is because it's their own people doing it.
I can't even describe how animal like some of them are, can you imagine people drinking booze in a park and fucking like dogs, and when someone tells them to get a room they say "fuck off whitey".
They are literal scum sucking animals, and they refuse to evolve, I am part native myself. Thank goodness I'm not full blood.
>>840372
If they were so smart, how'd they all die to a bunch of flea bitten Spaniards?
>>840602
As far world history is concerned, you didn't amount to much then nor now.
>>840615
This is exactly the kind of unsourced racist screed that has no place on /his/. Fuck off, you anachronistic moron.
>>840627
Natives suffer from generations of mental illness, when we found them most of them couldn't feed or clothe themselves. Also Canada was covered in ice for most of it's history. I would say that most of the tribes massacred each other or remained small due to infighting. Even during the indian wars you had natives killing natives all over.
Until they decide to stop boozing their lives away then they will always be fucking morons. I'm not talking punks, alot of them are full blown down syndrome.
>>840635
You fuck off, come to canada I will show you around and prove to you everything I have said.
I am stating a fact, most of our natives are mentally ill with dependency issues. Most natives you see collect bottles or fuck their own sisters / cousins. Most natives you see suffer from down syndrome. Come on up and take a look.
One of my good friends is native, he is completely normal, that's because his parents didn't smoke meth while he was in the womb.
The majority of them are severely fucked in the brains.
>>840635
Reality is a bit hard to take?
>>840645
This is our board now. Fuck off poltard.
>>840655
Lol who are you? I can speak for my own people and my own country. Natives are spoiled fucking rotten and refuse to be civilized. They see etiquette and manners as white mans rules. They think stealing and dealing drugs is good because they are "sticking it" to the white man.
Get a grip retard.
>>840663
>Racist
>Canadian
Undercover amerifat detected.
>>840677
I am canadian, I am also part native, jamaican, as well as irish and scottish. I have no dog in this fight. Just stating how natives need to shape up before they genocide themselves. In 100 years there won't be a sane native left, they will all be brain dead fucking monkeys.
I was having lunch the other day, and I saw two natives ass fucking each other in a fucking dumpster. I can't even make this shit up.
Le 2016 so multicultural.
>>839981
Think about the area the vikings settled in. It likely did not have a very large native population. If it did get into a settlement of 50 to 200 ( i believe that is the common settlement size for Newfoundland around 1000 AD), it would just kill the whole settlement.
Because the Vikings were isolated from plagues. Especially Icelanders.
>>840685
The newfoundland tribes were all killed by the irish / french.
LITTLE FUCKING WONDER, PROBABLY CAUGHT THEM ASS FUCKING A MOOSE WHILE HIGH ON WHALE SHIT.
>>840842
Are you the same guy that's been getting mad when I ask you for evidence and call you a sociologist?
>>840908
I already stated the facts and you don't want to hear them, natives and black people for that matter have mental illness that has been compounded by generations of drug / alcohol abuse and basically ignorance.
Natives get more money than anyone in canada, just for sitting around and drinking and shitting out kids. They get native money, plus disability. They are quite literally dogshit. They have no need to improve themselves because a native family earns more money than the average white middle class family, and they blow it all on drugs and booze.
Meanwhile people with native heritage like myself are refused payment, because we are "too" white. Meanwhile I look like a fucking mudslim.
Go fuck yourself you self righteous idiot. If I had that kind of money I would have a college degree and a house by now, not living in a fucking cardboard box.
Fucking ghetto rich niggas.
>>840615
>>840638
>>840645
Wow, I guess native Americans and Anglos must be related after all.
>>840931
>If I had that kind of money I would have a college degree and a house by now
Actually you would be sitting around drinking and shitting out kids like your parents and your parents' parents.
>>840939
My parents never drank, sorry pal. Not all of us in Canada die by our 30's from huff paint thinner.
>say I'm part native
>that makes me full native
Native literacy folks.
>>840362
[citations needed]
4200 fucking dollars a month because they are fucking brown chugs, makes me fucking furious.
Fucking crackheads need to die already.
>>840931
it sounds to me like you're buttmad that you don't get benefits. fuck, i'd be mad too. hell, I am mad, being black in the united states and not being given fucking jack shit.
quit being fucking angry and making blanket statements. it's not the people's fault they're the way they are, it's the system and it's their history.
>>840950
>implying that white people don't drink and shit out kids in much the same way and at a similar rate
k
>>840963
Yes I'm fucking angry I don't get benefits, but atleast I ain't a toothless crackhead ass fucking my sister in a garbage can. You people are literal fucking scum no shit people are racist towards you. DIE.
This whole "le noble savage" shit is absolute bullshit. No wonder the government is taking it's sweet fucking time finding "missing" native women. Nobody fucking cares, because you are a waste of fucking skin.
>>840993
aww, obviously you're just really hurt. only death can liberate your tortured soul. i can't feel bad though. if you're in so much pain mentally, why don't you just kill yourself? why not instead of hating others, hate yourself? you're the one that deserves hate
>>841005
You are a prime example of why people hate natives. White people give you land, free food, free money, more money than a white family could ever dream of and you still blame others for your addiction problems and your low iq, same with the fucking blacks in the ghettos.
God bless the ones that do uplift themselves enough to get the fuck away from that living hell.
Your race is fucking doomed to self destruct, way before the "white" man.
>"Wow I sure am glad that /pol/ isn't on my board anymore"
>they get replaced by super-sensitive "egalitarians" who get offended at everything that doesn't say "non-whites are all benevolent and whites are all horrible"
>>841061
You're literally retarded tier. Have you ever stepped off /pol/ for like 5 minutes and observed how things actually are in real life?
>>841025
>White people give you land, free food, free money, more money than a white family could ever dream of
...Death, disease, "mysterious" food shortages, deny medicine, strip mine local resources...
>>841061
i'll take the dumb libtards over /pol/ any day desu
>>841079
As a matter of fact I have, but I guess since we've reverted to shittalking each other almost immediately then I'd like to point out that your mother is a whore and probably goes on /v/.
>>840362
WE
>>840842
My people are primarily of Spanish descent. If you couldn't deal with Spaniards back then you certainly won't stand a chance against us now.
>>840602
Your family unit is destroyed for no other reason than your failure to stop drinking. Your cultures and languages mean nothing and there is no evidence to suggest you are anywhere near as intelligent as the ones who conquered you and now offer you a place in their society. The only other thing stopping you from being successful is the bitterness resulting from your desperate clinging to a dead way of life that will never, ever come back. The only natives who ever make it are the ones who leave the reservation behind and join the rest of society, becoming culturally Anglo just like all the other non-Anglo descended Americans who left their cultures behind to join something new.
>>840963
>the system and it's their history
Choices and consequences obviously don't mean much to you.
>>840655
>only my opinions are allowed!
>>840645
I live in Canada and am familiar with indigenous people. They're not as you see them. Keep in mind too that they were sterilized, beaten, "re-educated" for centuries. If that doesn't inculcate a system of self-abuse, I don't know what would. You can't destroy a culture such that they retain almost no memories of how they organized before, and then claim they're scum for not being able to keep shit together.
I wonder what would happen if we took undoubtedly rich white kids from Manhattan, beat them when they spoke english, intentionally did taught them poor english, denied them most other forms of education, occasionally starved and murdered them, and then sent them back to jobless remote hellholes that we forced their parents to live on. I can't imagine how fucked up /their/ kids would be, let alone their grandkids, and so on.
>>840638
>couldn't feed or clothe themselves
Yeeeeaaaah no. Before European colonization they actually were very well adapted to the climate and ecosystem. Most of the early colonies here survived because they took tips from the aboriginal population on how to not fucking die after a winter.
>>840372
>Mug Catholic boogeyman
>>840580
I actually thought he was saying injuns are more stupid than white people, as in "moder sensibilities stop us from aknowledging we killed a million bajillion american indians since it implies we are actually better than them"
>>840372
>The catholics murdered tens of millions of natives
Ahaha, no proofs.
>>840362
>>840372
How would it ever be possible for the Europeans to successfully genocide the American Indians like that? Even the Assyrians and the Mongols never managed to cripple the local native populations in the same way the Europeans would have done with the Injuns.
>>840602
>We are an intelligent people
>lived in stone age until white people showed them how to gamble so they've started casinos after getting welfare from them
>>839981
Because sick people dont explore the world. They sit at home, while the healthy explore.
>>840682
>I can't even make this shit up.
but you just did
>>840372
>tens of thousands genociding tens of millions
>pre-industrialisation
Are you fucking kidding?
>>840602
>we are smarter and better than you!
>that's why we lost
>and then never got up again
>and have such an insignificant and backwards culture that most just want to forget about it already
More of you leeches should've died, you occupy (due to government grants) so much of my nations area and yet produce nothing. And can't even fucking sustain yourselves.
>>840842
>y-you are the subhumans for pointing out the native supremacist id a retard
If you are gonna be a supremacist at least find a group that is superior in at least one aspect outside of getting exterminated.
>>843216
over a much larger time frame than the holocaust
>>844600
Though almost no conquest through history have worked like that.
You conquer the place, massacre a few people, then mostly peacefully control the local population with the help of your allies.
You don't continue killing hundreds of thousands of them year after year, especially if you got allies to help you subdue them.
