ITT: Battles that were so legendary that it's almost hard to believe it's real
>>73890
Cordavogna
There's that time 200 Parisian men at arms successfully defended the city against 30 000 Vikings.
There's that time the French cavalry charged the Dutch navy.
Great siege of Malta.
I wish some competent director made a movie picturing those events.
>>73943
It was a siege
Sieges can have impressive numbers
>>73977
You beat me to the punch.
>>73977
There will never be a movie about the Siege of Malta or the Battle of Lepanto because it would be too expensive, only one national film industry could finance such movies and the people in control of this particular industry are not sympathetic to Christianity.
I wish the Vatican used their money to finance Catholic blockbusters, like they financed artists in the past, but that won't happen.
>>73977
Reminded me that Lepanto was pretty epic tier
Battle of the Huan'erzui (Badger's Mouth)
To combat the Mongol advance, the Jin withdrew soldiers from cities for hundreds of miles, resulting in a combined force of approximately 400,000 to 500,000 soldiers being stationed at Huan'erzui. However, the Jin were overly confident in the defensive position of the pass; Genghis eventually circumvented Jin defenses by sending his men over the peaks surrounding the pass, allowing him to encircle the much larger Jin army. As Genghis attacked the front of the Jin army at the entrance to the pass, his forces simultaneously routed the Jin cavalry from behind. The encircling force then proceeded to attack the supply camps in the rear of the Jin army, resulting in the slaughter of many resting Jin soldiers. When Jin forces in the front lines of the battle were eventually pushed into retreat by the bulk of the Mongol army, the subsequent chaos resulted in the slaughter of even more Jin soldiers.
Following the battle, the general of the Jin army retreated to the central Jin capital of Zhongdu (modern Beijing) and assassinated the emperor, and assumed control of the city. After a four-year Mongol siege, which saw the residents of Beijing reduced to cannibalism in order to survive, the city finally surrendered. The Jin were allowed to retain control of Zhongdu, but were forced to pay a large tribute in return. The following summer, Emperor Xuanzong of Jin abandoned Zhongdu and moved the government to the "southern capital" of Kaifeng. While the Jin maintained a grasp on power for several more years, the empire was severely weakened, and eventually capitulated to a combined Mongol and Southern Song force in 1234.[2]
Stalingrad was pretty hardcore
There are three battles that make me wish a time machine existed: Cannae, Borodino, and Kursk.
>>74066
The mongols were fucking bad asses
Battle of Roncesvalles
It wasn't particularly epic, but it's literally so drapped in legend that it's hard to discern what actually happened.
I have no idea what it is called but there was a battle between Native Americans and Vikings under Eric the Red and the Vikings were beaten because of some weird weapon the natives had.
>>73890
The final byzantine-sasanian war was literally blockbuster-tier
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine%E2%80%93Sasanian_War_of_602%E2%80%93628
>>73934
This was way more impressive than Zama imo, fucking legendary.
But the battle of Alesia takes the cake, what the Romans did is absolutely unbelievable, I still can't imagine such a thing happening. Did a battle like this ever happen again?
>>73990
>Charles the Fat
>>74164
*because they met people who fought back
>>73890
Hard to believe nobody's made a movie about this one.
Battle of Lake Poyang.
>>73990
>Charles the fat
kek
>>74244
What's impressive about this? Nothing really, it's an interesting battle but there's absolutely nothing amazing about it.
>>73990
Still, read that story. The Vikings ended up lighting their own ships on fire and hurling them against one of the birdges blocking their path. When they managed to destroy the path to the guard tower on the riverbank and had it totally surrounded, the 12 guards inside refused to surrender, and were all massacred, but not before taking 100 Vikings with them. The bishop of Paris himself lead the men pushing back the Viking assault, holding up a cross.
>>73890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaEkd_FB52c
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ascalon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dorylaeum_%281097%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%281099%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma'arra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Nicaea
mm,mmmmmmmmmmmm imagine if Christendom was still united, imagine the terror muslims felt when they finally got punched back.
deus vult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8viSgLTVM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem
Religion Roman Catholicism (official),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_of_Bouillon
Best man in history.
>>73890
>A battle full of armored soldiers duking it out ontop of a frozen lake
Holy fuck how have I never heard of this
>>74265
Charles the Fat wasn't involved in the battle, he just showed up after a year and offered to pay the Vikings to go pillage rebellious Burgundy instead.
The actual hero was Odo, the count of Paris, and it's a very important moment since that's how he became king, and his family would end up ruling France for 900 years.
>>74282
>Last battle of WWII
>Takes place in a fucking castle
>German Army fighting alongside the Allies, only instance this happened in the entire war
>French VIP political prisioners heroically join the fight after being told to protect themselves, including a former Prime Minister and a fucking tennis player
>The whole thing reads like a fucking movie
>It even has the tragic, untimely death of Major Gangl
>A story of sacrifice, redemption and heroism for the whole family
>>74077
Every single house and alley was a battlefield of its own. Pavlov's house is one famous example of a house turned stronghold.
Another great example from the Eastern front would also have to be the siege of the Brest fortress.
>>73976
The French? Charged? How un-french
>>74011
That painting is supposed to represent the fall of Acre in 1291, not Malta
>>74355
How have you never heard of this? Watch Alexander Nevsky by Sergei Eisenstein motherfucker, it's the foundation stone of all period-action cinema
>>74378
>Last battle of WWII
>he doesn't know about Poljana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poljana
I'm pretty sure another battle took place in Europe even after that, but I don't know which one it was.
i cry evertime
>>74489
The weak will always be defeated by the strong
>>74489
don't worry byzibro, I took care of the Turk menace, fix your decadent empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhIExMmeBQ4
>>74066
How do we incorporate Mongol knowledge better into history education? Honestly I am still catching up with what they did and its astounding, but it is terribly neglected.
>>74489
Fun fact: The collapse of Byzantium led to a great exodus of Byzantine scholars to the west, helping to trigger the renaissance.
>>74489
>mfw serbs where the first ones to breach the walls
muh kebab removers
Also the siege and sack of 1204 was worse
>>74489
As much as I love the Greeks, I think the Turks are some of history's biggest badasses.
>>74549
>playing autismal games
>posting this shit on /his/
Wew lad
>>73890
That one with the 10 or so Samurai who killed like 300 dudes in a shit village.
>>74567
Everyone knows this
>>74567
That's an outdated theory. The rediscovery of ancient texts had already begun before 1453, byzantine scholars made a negligible impact.
>>74228
>full plate cavalery
Rossbach and Leuthen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rossbach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuthen
>By the autumn of 1757 Frederick the Great was beset by enemies on all sides. The French had invaded the territory of his Anglo-Hanoverian allies, a Franco-Imperial army was threatening Saxony, an Austrian army 110,000-strong had marched into Silesia and even the ponderous Russians had moved against him. Then within a month Frederick transformed his fortunes. At Rossbach on 5 November he smashed the Franco-Imperial army in barely 11/2 hours. Force-marching to Silesia he won perhaps his greatest victory exactly a month later, crushing the Austrian Army at Leuthen. The Emperor Napoleon considered Frederick's lightning campaign ‘a masterpiece of manoeuvre and resolution'.
And I suppose the Angelo-Dutch wars also deserve some credit.
>>73890
eh meh, hardly legendary.
Note: They didn't fall through the ice.
>>73977
Seconding that.
Siege of Kaifeng was pretty fucking brutal.
>>74378
>Last battle of WWII
Wrong, so wrong. But even then, what you wrote wasn't all that impressive, there has been more legendary battles in WW2, this was merely a small battle between two forces trying their best not to destroy a castle.
Other anon said the last battle was Poljana, I think that's wrong. I would say it was the battle of Texel, as it started before the end of WW2 and continued for several time even after the Nazi surrender, effectively making it the last battle of WW2. Plus my countrymen came in to clean shit up so it's a good thing to name :)
>>74489
>weeping for the losers
They couldnt be that great if they couldnt had defend temselves. Turks were the rightful succesors of the roman empire because they earned the title
>>74654
That one fucker with the bow on the right there heheheheh
![tumblr_nqtiydrp111tvmyhbo1_400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y8BtmSS.jpg "tumblr_nqtiydrp111tvmyhbo1_400[1].jpg")
The Somme
I cannot picture the first day
>>74640
Why is this painting not a photograph?? It's almost like the artist didn't give a fuck about trying to magically recapture the exact state of things in the past and was more concerned in conveying his specific symbolic point with beauty and pageantry as his own era recognized it!!
>>74719
Fuck off mehmet
>>73890
Battle of Bouvines.
Basically, it is the birth of the French Nation, and the end of British absolutism.
To put things in details : "Holy" "Emperor" Othon is forced to flee while shitting himself, while the french Chivalry fights alongside the common cities militias and sergeants (Throughout the XIIth century, there was a real power struggle between the feudal lords and the independent cities, so having them fighting together and helping one another was pretty powerful).
In the end, King Philip of France is regarded by his vassals as the one true King, whereas John Lackland is forced to sign the Magna Cartha.
>>74752
Russians mang, I swear...
>>74752
That has got to be shopped. Google brings up nothing.
>>74719
If those retarded bitch ass Crusaders didn't betray the Byzantines and sack Constantinople, the Turks would have never won over Constantinople. Constantinople was basically defenseless as it had no external army to protect it, if the Crusaders didn't weaken the Byzantine Empire, it would have survived off against the Turks.
But what Mehmet the Conqueror did is pretty fucking impressive, I mean transporting your fleet on land with manpower? Noooice.
>>74805
Russians employed horse archers against Prussia and during the Napoleonic wars.
Not even kidding.
the Siege of Athens during the Mithridatic War
>Sulla cuts down every tree within 100 miles to build siege weapons including the sacred grove of Athens
>the Athenians send people to negotiate with Sulla
>the negotatiors start babbling on about the glory of Athens
>Sulla tells them all to fuck off
>eventually the Romans break through
>Sulla and his legionaries wading around in rivers of Athenian blood
>literal rivers of blood
>the massacre only stops when the Roman senators beg Sulla to stop it
>reminder that Sulla won every battle he ever fought and eventually died of too much drinking and whoring
tl;dr don't mess with Sulla
>>74840
No not Cossack, it's an Asiatic horse archer.
>>74567
Nope, Charlemagne had sent scholars to record and copy books back in the 900s. Not to mention that contact and trade with Byzantium was fairly regular past the 12tg century
>>74355
No one had swagger like muh Teutonic Knights did.
>>74859
Too bad he didn't have a nose.
>>73934
this
>battle so flawlessly planned that the next 1500 years of military history is generals trying to trick their enemies into repeating it
>>74780
>>74810
>>74719
its been nearly 6 centuries after the siege, you'll think people already move on...
I like the byzantine empire as much as anyone, but the amount of butthurt the balkanites have over the turks is off putting. The demonization of the ottomans for doing the same thing other empires did at the time, not to mention that the same people that whine about the ottomans celebrate when their preferred empire does it, is retarded
>>74438
>How un-french
u wot?
The French were famous for their cavalry charges for centuries, from the Middle Ages all the way to Napoleon. The Italians called it furia francese. If this was a video game, France's special ability would be cavalry charge.
>>74787
The starting point of an habit for Germans and Brits to ally against the French
An habit that would only stop 6 centuries later in 1815
It's also impressive to know that 14,000 men could take 9,000 prisoners
>>74977
Well they were employed and the French in Russia wrote about them.
https://books.google.nl/books?id=94xtSjHGhSsC&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=bashkirs+napoleonic+war&source=bl&ots=JucKLXMUc7&sig=KNzQlpD5SO9w9a8H3t4E7XSemy0&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAmoVChMIzuLfl-7yyAIVg4kPCh1fdw3o#v=onepage&q=bashkirs%20napoleonic%20war&f=false
>>74994
Dude french are cheese eating surrender monkeys remember? 1500 years of is irrelevant compared to the Iraq war.
>>74969
successful despite a serious handicap, truly a real human bean
>>74438
The french are known for charging you idiot. All the thing the french did their whole military history was charging.
When the charge was brillant, then all of France rejoiced and was happy (Austerlitz, Patay, Bouvines...). And when it failed, everyone kept mocking France and laughing at it (Agincourt, the Golden Spurs...).
Even today the french charge. Not with horses but with helicopters, and with the use of light infantry.
>>74977
He looks clearly asiatic. Russians had a long tradition of using nomadic horsemen in their army and even nowadays there's mongolic peoples in russian Europe, to not mention the countless steppe nomads beyond the urals under Russia.
>>75071
Yeah, I am familiar with that. Still, he looks weird in that painting.
Seriously? Not one mention of this. It was 7 fucking legions. Even Tuetoburgum was only like 3.
Crassus was beaten so badly the Parthian king had his general killed because of it.
>>74585
>Byzantines
>Greek
>>74063
Battle of Lepanto summed up in one image.
>>74438
France was different back then.
>>74334
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aintab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arsuf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ascalon
deus vult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49lw0lD7zcA
>>74931
>Muh flag from the skies
>ctrl-f
>no Cochin
For shame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cochin_(1504)
>The celebrated heroics of the tiny Portuguese garrison, led by Duarte Pacheco Pereira, fended off an invading army several hundred times bigger.
>>75158
>Byzantines
>Not Greek
Ayy.
>>74063
Based. Also Cervantes fought here and was crippled but he considered it best day of his life.
>>73890
Siege of Vienna 1683
Hard to believe the ottomans reached the heart of Europe and almost won
>>75231
>greeks
>greeks
>>75265
>Greece
>Macedonian
>>75256
The 16th century one was more important desu.
>>75256
They literally marched against Viena two times before that one. Plus years and more years of wars in Hungary between austrians and turkish proxies. 1683 was the Ottomans trying too hard to prove they were still relevant, really.
>>75300
desu.
>>75101
>Crassus was beaten so badly the Parthian king had his general killed because of it.
???
I thought he had his general killed as he saw him as a potential rival to his own power. Why on earth would you kill his own general for defeating his enemies so grandly?
Lepanto, bitches.
One of the biggest naval battles in history, one of the most decisive BTFOings of Europe v. Ottoman conflicts, and the end of the galley as the cannoned tall ship took the forefront of naval technology for the next three centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto
>>75101
Crassus got ideas above his station, he should have stayed at home burning peoples houses down and charging them to put the fire out and left the soldiering to Caesar and Pompey
>thinks that because he put down Spartacus he can suddenly take on the Parthians
Some little know British fiasco:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias
>George Washington's brother BTFO
>The british made conmemorative medals for the victory before they even know if they won
lel
>>74378
You've forgotten that every single Nazi was an irredeemably evil and cowardly person, and would never fight alongside the heroic and morally flawless Allies.
>>74472
>Alexander Nevsky
Soviet propaganda desu senpai.
Baffles me why nobody has made a film about the Battle of Trafalgar. I mean it was the most decisive naval battle in history up until Midway and even then Trafalgar is still seen as the more important of the two.
>>75203
>Casualties and losses
>Negligible or none dead
>19,000 dead (c. 5,000 in action, 13,000 to disease)
>13,000 dead to disease
Guess they forgot to arrange designated shitting camps
>>75331
Because him defeating your enemies so grandly make you see him as a potential rival to your own power?
>>75256
>heart of europe
they first met the Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRqUbfA5KM
>>75375
>>75367
>Baffles me why nobody has made a film about the Battle of Trafalgar
Because the bad guys won
>>75203
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cochin_(1504)
Good lord India...I..I'm lost for words
>>75408
The bad guys (well, the retarded offspring) rule so there should be a movie
>>75408
I take it jerking off over Napoleonic France is going to be a continuing meme on this board.
>>75101
Are you fucking joking, how did I not learn about the magnitude of this humiliation before?
>>74810
>if if if
History isnt about what could be. All that matter is that turks took their rightful place in anatolia and europe because they earned it
>>75440
For some reaso they gave their movie industry to people more evil than you even, they wouldn't like the competition
>>75475
they got wrecked in europe.
>>75465
It's a pretty famous battle senpai
>>73890
kublai khan attempted invasion of japan.
>based kamikaze
>>75401
Man, that's some bullshit. The British put a squeeze on India something fierce, forcing farmers to grow cash crops to the point where they could barely feed themselves, then not providing assistance during the inevitable famines.
The British claimed the famines were just a natural part of life, and it was normal for millions of people to die every few years.
Then, mysteriously, as soon as they left, the famines ended. Quite a coincidence, wouldn't you say?
2 million Indians died during WW2 even though there was no fighting there.
>>75465
Its pretty well known that Cannae and Carrhae were the worst defeats in Republican history.
>>75401
This is by far the best explanation I have ever read.
>>75490
They wrecked enough europeans for a long enough time.
>>75101
That was more the result of Crassus' lack of experience/ability than Persian skill. It's hardly legendary.
>>75313
>Trying to look relevant
But they fucking were, do you have any idea about the context of the conflict? Had the Ottomans won over Vienna, one of the most important Christian cities of the world, the Ottomans would have been able to build an army there and start an invasion of Europe.
If it wasn't for Sobieski, a good portion of Europe would be Muslim today, he was based as fuck, and the Pope calling him "The Savior of Christendom" is a huge understatement.
>>75527
>Then, mysteriously, as soon as they left, the famines ended.
The famines were the result of British liberal economics. They thought the market would fix the food shortages basically.
>>74810
Reminder that the orthodox christians had almost 200 years to get their shit together but no, they prefered to fight each other and create epic slav "empires". They didn't even take profit of the miracle that was the invasion of Timur, that could've meant the total erasing of the Ottomans if the greeks had not wasted the chance.
>>75540
>does it start with ca and end with ae?
>it's gonna be bad
>>75556
only the balkans, while being prepped up and propped up by britain/france.
>>74597
>grand strategy games
>not the best genre for history
>>75652
>games
>history
You must be atleast 18 years old to post here
>>74719
Mohammad pls
>>75465
maybe because Crassus tends to be the overlooked member of the 1st Triumvirate
>>75610
They were but a shadow of themselves. As other anons already told you, the important ones happened a century before, with Suleiman the Great, and the Habsburgs resisted by themselves.
It wasn't an irrlevant battle, just overrated by polishboos.
>>75619
>The famines were the result of British liberal economics. They thought the market would fix the food shortages basically.
no, they really weren't, I don't have a clue where you got this from
>>75527
the WW2 famine was a result of the Brits directing food to troops instead of to India, shit happens
>>75634
The balkans alone produce enough butthurt equalling a whole continent
>>75704
>mehmet
Ftfy lad
>>75740
>no, they really weren't, I don't have a clue where you got this from
The fact that the Viceroy told his government not to do anything because 'market forces alone would suffice to feed the starving Indians' is quite a big indicator.
>>75740
>the WW2 famine was a result of the Brits directing food to troops instead of to India, shit happens
The proximate cause of the famine was a reduction in supply with some increase in demand. The winter 1942 ‘aman’ rice crop, which was already expected to be poor or indifferent,[13] was hit by a cyclone and three tidal waves in October. 450 square miles were swept by tidal waves, 400 square miles affected by floods and 3200 square miles damaged by wind and torrential rain. Reserve stocks in the hands of cultivators, consumers and dealers were destroyed. This killed 14,500 people and 190,000 cattle.[14] ‘The homes, livelihood and property of nearly 2.5 million Bengalis were ruined or damaged.’[15] A fungus causing the disease known as "brown spot", hit the rice crop and this was reported to have had an even greater effect on yield than the cyclone.[16] The fungus, Helminthosporium oryzae, destroyed 50% to 90% of some rice varieties.[17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
>>74899
I don't think so Tim.
>>74107
>Borodino
Not as tactically complex as Austerlitz, but sure. If you like watching battles of waves of men just pushing towards fortified positions with no discernible tactical subtly then sure.
>>75527
>The British claimed the famines were just a natural part of life, and it was normal for millions of people to die every few years.
They were. Famine was a regular part of life in every country in the world before the British invented modernity. As to why they stopped after the Brits left India well you can thank Norman Borlaug for that one
>>75627
The 4th Crusade triggered the decline of the Byzantine Empire, there was nothing they could do to get to power. The Turks having competent leaders didn't help either.
The Byzantines couldn't afford to build a large army to defend themselves, ever since being annihilated by the Crusaders, all they could do was hire mercenaries from all around Europe to defend themselves, which makes me furious as I wish the Byzantines never lost. Mehmet the Conqueror planned the conquest of Constantinople ever since his childhood, it was his life-goal, and even upon reaching Constantinople with his large army, he was still losing, him transporting his fleet over land was legendary, really there was nothing the Byzantines could have done to stop the Turks the moment they were beaten by the Crusades.
Those Hungarian shits selling cannons to the Turks didn't help much either. Friendly reminder that the Byzantines could do absolutely nothing against the Turks even when Timur was killing the Turks in the East, because the Turks actually help power all over Thrace except Constantinople and the Byzantines could do nothing but watch their enemies slaughter each other.
>>75527
>2 million Indians died during WW2 even though there was no fighting there.
Why do lefties suck at history so much?
>>75356
b8
>>74787
God I fucking love the Fleur De Lys.
Best shit to put on a flag
Hollywood did its job perfectly >>74438
>>75691
>what is simulation
What else can you do to interact with history? You obviously can't go back in time, so simulations are your best bet if you want to feel like you were playing a part
>>75946
Yeah, but introducing capitalism into a feudal society helped create famines.
Most of the famines in British India weren't from food shortages, it was just inability to distribute due to increased crop prices that poor people couldn't afford to pay because of a poorly planned economy.
>>74570
iirc they also fought at the Battle of Ankara so hard Timur let them go because of their bravery instead of adding their heads on top of his skull pyramid.
>>76254
>You obviously can't go back in time
Not with that attitude.
>>75459
Works for me, senpai. I'm going to enjoy it as long as it lasts.
>>74994
French knights in Age of Empires II were top tier.
>>76508
Actually, their knights don't benefit from the boost so much as their paladins do.
>>73890
>Battle on the Ice
legendary to the point of disbelief, yes, but also has been aggrandized and embellished to a point that is frankly ridiculous
My favorite depiction of this one is in Requiem Chevalier Vampire
I used to have it saved but I lost that HDD
>>75367
It wasn't a decissive naval battle. The Royal Navy was already overwhelmingly dominant. It was a fraction of the british fleet blockading in Cadiz the bulk of Spanish and French fleet trying to sneak out to do something they didn't even know exactly what nor how.
Midway was a decissive battle. The fiasco of the Phillip II invasion fleet saved Elizabeth, The Downs and Texel saved the Dutch Republic, Tsushima established Japan as the major naval power in the region at the expense of Russia and jumpstarted its Imperialism, but Trafalgar was per se militarily irrelevant. It had political consequences like the continental blockade which damaged Britain much more than a loss at Trafalgar would havebut it also had problematic consequences for France.
>>75459
>I take it jerking off over Napoleonic France is going to be a continuing meme on this board.
'lel cowards, did you mean french military defeats' is old and gay meme.
there's three things the french are historically known for: sex, war, and food, in that order.
>>76563
It's worth buying a physical copy anon.
>>76050
A battle where the Norman soldiers fighting for the Byzantines fled the field without fighting.
>>76686
do they have an official TPB release of it in not French? I don't actually read croissant.
>>76756
Yes. Heavy Metal was releasing them, 3 or 4 volumes so far.
>>74931
>>74979
I think you downplay here what the Ottomans did. They completely turkified all of Anatolia and were on the way to finish off Greece. Horrible atrocities were committed as the Byzantines didn't even expect the invasions and opened the gates. Then they focused on overextending way too much and burned everything down. Take a look at modern Anatolia and read a list of all the Greek ruins. Not to mention modern genocide in WW1.
No empire other than the Arabians and Timur can really compare to them at the time.
>>74189
How is it that it still has yet to be put to film?
>>74164
How is it that the germs and steel didn't come to the advantage of the vikings?
>>77305
>How is it that the germs and steel didn't come to the advantage of the vikings?
Isolated on the other side of the planet, and colonization ain't easy.
>>75459
Napoleonic France was one of the most impressive country in the world (kinda like the 3rd Reich military-wise), of course it is admired
I kinda feel bad for you Brits, your highest point was an empire built by defeating Zulus and Indians...
>>74438
Learn history before you post on the history board you giant faggot
The French were fucking monsters of war historically
>>77070
You're overplaying what the ottomans did. See it in historical perspective instead of letting your feelings get in the way, and you'll see that nothing the ottomans did was exceptionally cruel, and other empires did the same (like the russians, funny you posted that image)
>They completely turkified all of Anatolia and were on the way to finish off Greece
Anatolia was turkified as a result of the movement of pastoralist tribes to the highland plateau, and even then a lot of the original greek population stayed there, the expulsions came later and where the result of modern nationalist policies adopted first by the young turks and then by the secular republic. If the greeks weren't retarded enough to attack the turks in the '20s then maybe there would still be a greek speaking population in Ionia and Trebizond, but thats muh irredentism, muh nationalism for you.
And still, you're speaking as if Anatolia was eternaly greek, there where other peoples before that where "hellenised" by greek colonists.
>Horrible atrocities were committed as the Byzantines didn't even expect the invasions and opened the gates
What does that even means?
>Then they focused on overextending way too much and burned everything down
burned everything down? what "everything", be more specific.
>Take a look at modern Anatolia and read a list of all the Greek ruins
You mean those places that where ruins since classical antiquity? because most of the byzantine cities they took where settled, not destroyed.
>Not to mention modern genocide in WW1
a sad thing from the 20th century, yes, but not of the period of esplendour of the empire
>No empire other than the Arabians and Timur can really compare to them at the time
Hah, how convenient for you. Perhaps you should think in the spanish colonial empire in the americas?
>>77305
This was pre-black death.
>>74489
>rotting corpse of byzantium overwhelmed by the Turks
Not really an epic struggle, to be honest.
>>77507
It wasn't bubonic plague that decimated the natives either.
>>77969
It largely was, along with smallpox
>>75051
I think one of the main reasons the French army started their "rebellion" in 1917 was due to this tendency of french generals, ie doing almost insane charges vs dug in germans positions, that cost the french hundreds of thousands of casualties during most of the WW1.
>>73890
so for all of us plebs that failed world history 101, where would the battle of thermopylae rank among the others in this thread, ok tier, great tier?
>>74570
So serbs have a way with ruining good things...
Am I alone on this?
>>74640
Yeah cos that's the most unrealistic thing about it, you autist.
>>78789
Custer was a pussy
>>74282
It's literally one of the most interesting events of the war, sorry it didn't have 400 thousand dead.
>>75203
>13,000 dead from disease
Thank you syphilis
I fucking NEED a Crecy movie.
>French nobility wiped out
>The longbow becomes the dominant battlefield weapon
>the Blind King of Bohemia
>arguably the first major victory for the English under their own separate identity since pre 1066
>10,000 English vs up to 100,000 French
It really was a big deal.
>>78740
It's ok tier. It's an impressive rear guard action, but not as impressive as later Greek historians made it out to be. Aside from 300 Spartans, there were a few thousand troops from other Greek cities.
They managed to spin a pretty bad defeat into a glorious heroic action. So not really all that impressive, but a cool rear guard action nonetheless.
>>74438
>Le surrender meme
Go away
>>79012
>longbow
>dominant battlefield weapon
The fuck are you on about
>>74517
Rather the noble few shall always be outnumbered by the sub-human swarm.
>>79012
Yeah, totally not enough English/British wank in cinema.
>The longbow becomes the dominant battlefield weapon
This is wrong. Crossbows were still used despite Longbows being better. Meanwhile the Frankish heavy mounted horse became common stay for Medieval Europe.
Mothafuckin midway.
>Whole Japanese carrier group BTFO
>US loose one carrier and a destroyer
I wish to see the minute the Dauntlesses started their dive bombing attack.
>>79104
Not enough of the right kind. Too much Tudor wank, not enough based medieval action.
>>75367
>I mean it was the most decisive naval battle in history up until Midway and even then Trafalgar is still seen as the more important of the two.
It didn't decide anything. The French fleet was supposed to take the French army to invade Britain. The Austrians move before that and Napoleon shifted his troops lightening fast to the Rhine.
When they the British entered Trafalgar Bay, Napoleon was in mopping up General Mack and driving the remnants of the Archduke's army eastward.
>>75540
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio
Everyone forgets about the Cimbrian War. If the barbarians had pressed their advantage Rome would have fallen.
>>73977
Better off making a film about the modern Seige of Malta. Literally the best WWII campaign of all time.
>>75691
Where the fuck do you think you are?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallian_Campaign#Siege_of_Multanese_Citadel
The single most incredible thing I've ever read.
His army was too scared to take the walls because of incoming missiles. Alexander stormed the walls himself, his army followed and their weight broke the ladder. He refused to drop down into their arms, hoisted himself onto the wall, and fought alone.
His army, just minutes ago too scared to attack the walls, force open the gate in a mad frenzy to save the king. They slaughtered everybody they found and rescued a wounded Alexander, who spent the next 6 months being barged down rivers to Babylon.
When they cared him out of the city the entire army thought he was dead, and they had to parade him down the river to prove he wasn't.
>>79012
>I fucking NEED a Crecy movie.
I'd prefer a film about the Battle of Patay. Though it would be short.
>>79147
Don't kid yourself. We had land based planes that gave us a massive advantage.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz
Cmon plebs. I know you're all coalition kucks, but it's okay to acknowledge that you got btfo constantly.
>>77446
They usually had numbers by the side. And they used to lose lots of battles in which they had numerical superiority.
So yes, french are faggots.
Swiss were some insane motherfuckers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_St._Jakob_an_der_Birs
>>74414
Pavlovs house was also a nightmare on fucking CoD. I don't want to believe how fucking frightening it must have been IRL
>>79531
>They usually had numbers by the side.
That's false though
France was outnumbered in most of its wars
Pic related
>And they used to lose lots of battles in which they had numerical superiority.
They indeed lost some battles in which they had numerical superiority, like every country
But they also won an insane lot of battles in which they were outnumbered
>So yes, french are faggots.
You sound incredibly butthurt
Why don't you go to /b/ or /pol/ instead of shitting up a decent board?
>>79703
>>79612
What happened here?
>>79792
the jews happened
>>74228
What battle is this?
Not really a battle but when Washington evacuated his whole army out of Boston without one British soldier knowing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Castle_Itter
why the fuck this has not been made into a movie
i will never know
>>79682
it's on Red orchestra 2 as well, not the best map mind
Kitcheners' Wood the night of April 22, 1915.
Earlier in the day the Germans had carried out the first large-scale poison gas attack of the war against the Colonial French lines next to the newly arrived and completely inexperienced 1st Canadian division, utterly routing the former and compelling the latter to extend their lines to stop a German breakthrough. Two battalions of Canadians and a few French counter-attacked into the gap, storming Kitcheners' Wood with fixed bayonets to drive the Krauts out, taking ghastly losses in the process.
Heck 2nd Ypres in its entirety is epic. Despite being the greenest troops around, issued with shit-tier Ross rifles, facing the completely new horror of chlorine gas and not even having a developed defensive system at this stage of the war the Canadians held the German advance long enough to break its momentum.
>tfw the Belgians built a damned amusement park on the hallowed ground of Bellewaarde Ridge
Oh yeah 2nd Ypres also gave us the immortal poem In Flanders' Fields.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kitcheners'_Wood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Szigetvár
>Let us go out from this burning place into the open and stand up to our enemies. Who dies – he will be with God. Who dies not – his name will be honoured. I will go first, and what I do, you do. And God is my witness – I will never leave you, my brothers and knights!...
>Zrinski then ordered a charge and led his remaining 600 troops out of the castle.[7] He received two musket wounds in his chest and was killed shortly afterwards by an arrow to the head.[7] Some of his force retired into the castle.
>Before leading the final sortie by the castle garrison, Zrinski ordered a fuse be lit to the powder magazine.[4][Note 8] After cutting down the last of the defenders the besiegers poured into the fortress. The Ottoman Army entered the remains of Szigetvár and fell into the booby trap,[6] thousands perished in the blast when the castle's magazine exploded
Shits all over the Alamo desu imo.
>>79809
>Alexander at Issus
>>79804
Oh duh baka desu, sempai
>>77060
some1 pls post more of these
Siege of Vienna
>Polish Hussars appear like Gandalf in that LOTR scene and rush in to terrorize and demoralize the Ottomans
>no battle of Vaslui
wtf is this
the ultimate Kebab remover Stephen the Great isn't even mentioned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vaslui
>>74189
>The previous war between the two powers had ended in 591 after Emperor Maurice helped the Sasanian king Khosrau II regain his throne. In 602 Maurice was murdered by his political rival Phocas. Khosrau proceeded to declare war, ostensibly to avenge the death of Maurice.
>Constantinople actually saw a siege
God damn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Breitenfeld_%281631%29
>Revitalized the Protestant war effort
>wasted most of the Catholic army
>convinced many that victory was still possible even with the failures of the Bohemian Revolt and Danish Intervention
>>74244
>On May 3, Zvonimir Čučković, an imprisoned Yugoslav communist resistance member
>Čučković
>>79874
>>79272
Holy shit Alexander was way more badass than I thought.
>>79703
>I'm talking about actual battles and he posts wars
>implying there weren't countries merely nominally at war with France in most of those wars
Besides, France used to have by far the largest population of all Europe, pretty much like all of those combined minus the HRE. But again:
>The HRE
>Acting as one with full force of all its states
>ever
Any of the big Ottoman sieges.
Rhodes is cool, because it ended, surprisingly for an Ottoman siege, in the garrison walking out with their colors, and not getting horribly massacred.
The follow-up at Malta is one of the most epic sieges in history, and thankfully ended in Ottoman defeat.
Then there's the Ottoman-Venetian wars. The siege of Famagusta lasted an entire year, and ended in true Turk-style treachery which saw the surrendered Venetian commander brutally tortured and executed. And then the siege of Candia on Crete, which lasted 21 fucking years.
And do I even need to mention the last siege of Vienna? Fucking real life Pelennor Fields.
Even the small ones are cool. The last Palaiologan holdout in Greece was this shitty small castle on a mountain in the Peloponnese. They held out for over a year by drawing water up from a stream outside with buckets. Eventually they cut that source off, and the civilian population inside the walls surrendered, but the soldiers held out even longer, until eventually securing a safe surrender.
Any siege involving Constantinople was also great. The Ottoman one was actually kind of lame, because despite the symbolism, it lasted only a month. The earlier Arab sieges were just as large, but were held off for months or years, successfully. And that was before the gradual downfall of the empire - back then, the Muslims were still a relatively new thing, and it must have seemed like a sudden apocalypse out of nowhere, to have hundreds of thousands of these heretics besieging New Rome, and it must have seemed like a major miracle for them to be repulsed twice.
>>80609
>I'm talking about actual battles and he posts wars
I can post battles if you want
Go be butthurt somewhere else
>>73890
Battle of Gaugamela, the final land battle that broke the will of the Persians against a numerically inferior force
>Darius had the battlefield picked and specially prepared to fully utilize scythed chariots
>Darius had taken no chances, called every conscript he could from every nook and cranny of the gigantic Achaemenid Empire
>Entire force of Immortals are in the fray and ready to fight
>On the other side was Alexander's army, rugged, battle-hardened brother-in-arms.
>Already decisively defeated the Persians twice at Issus and Granicus
>His advisors begged him to do things that might help him win like perform night attacks, to which Alexander declined, ended up being in favor for the Greeks because Darius, fearing a night attack, kept his men up
>Alexander over-fucking-slept for the battle and declared he already won
>>81205
>battle opens up with a huge cavalry attack from the Persians on the right flank against the Macedonian Companions, if they broke the battle would have been over right there but careful and disciplined maneuvering allowed the greeks to force them back after a savage cavalry battle
>Darius then sends his chariots down the line, but the Macedonian lines opened up into arrays allowing them to pass through harmlessly, and the skirmishers in the back killed all the survivors, essentially ruling the chariots a non-factor
>Alexander, meanwhile has been riding out toward the right, far away from his lines. Darius, who was worried about what Alexander was planning ordered his cavalry to match him
>While the infantry battle raged on, Alexander had forced the Persians to create a small gap by forcing the Persian's cavalry out far right and the infantry too busy dealing with the Macedonian phalanx
>In a thunderous charge, Alexander and his Companions disengaged from his rear guard, holding the Persian cavalry with them, and charged that small point of weakness
>He plunged straight through the Persian ranks, cutting off Darius and his Guard from his army, and forced the King of Kings to flee from the battlefield
>With Darius fleeing, the Persian Army finally broke and later proved to be the death blow for the Achaemenid Empire
>Alexander could have killed Darius right there, but being a true commander he collapsed back and saved his left flank which had been taking a beating the entire time from destruction instead of giving into bloodlust
>Macedonian casualties were minimal while the Persians were all but driven from their own
Empire
>>74378
>last battle of WWII
Weren't the Japanese involved in WWII?
>>81076
>Nul Bop
>Wang Debang
lol
>>81372
Yeah, the LAST battle (or series of battles) should be the Liberation of Manchuria by the Soviets.
>>81540
"liberation"
>>74778
At least it's a perfect example of Anachronism since the painting was created during the Renaissance.
>Abritus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Abritus
>Wikipedia
The past ten years have been a rolling civil war, with usurpations and counter-usurpations wracking the empire ever since Maximinius Thrax died at Aquileia. Sure, things are bad now, but surely this is the farthest our empire can possibly fall, and eventually another Septimius Severus will emerge and rip the empire out of the downward spiral it's been in as of late?
Then the Goths emerged onto the scene, carrying with them the Cyprian Plague and taking the head of Emperor Decius with them, turning the Crisis of the Third Century from a mere civil war, the likes of which came every now and again, into a truly existential period of hardship, of which it is amazing that Rome managed to make it out of.
This shit should be the intro to some RPG, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
>>74438
>muh irak
Battle of Vinegar Hill, 1798 Rebellion
Charging soldiers with guns in formation using pikes takes some bravery and balls. They may not have won but their day would eventually come over a century later.
>>74334
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Montgisard
>>79012
>up to 100,000
First rule of medieval warfare, divide the numbers of the other side indicated in the primary source by 10, then proceed.
Battle of Bunker Hill
so many brits were killed but kept coming right up until the murricans ran out of ammo and were overwhelmed by sheer numbers
a legit Zapp Brannigan killbot strategy.
>>74056
Didn't the Vatican produce HBO's Borgia?
>>82215
>a tiny force of men from the world's eight great empires fighting together to defend an enclave of European civilians against the massive horde of the Qing and Boxxers
It's fucking unreal
>>82351
Didn't mean to quote
>>82351
technology was a huge factor
>>82351
And then went on to loot like nobody else.
>>73977
Crowley's account of it in Empires of the Sea is gripping as fuck. That and Rhodes (both of them) gave me a shitload of respect for the Knights Hospitaller. Probably my favorite Crusading order and they have to be up there among the greatest siege defenders ever.
The Siege of Famagusta's another great one, even if it was a Turkish win.
>>82398
It's not so much that they won, it's the idea of small groups legation guards from eight different nations, who couldn't all even understand each other, cooperating for 55 days to counter a vastly large force. Like something in a storybook.
>>82351
>>78050
There is lots written about it. Mostly i french. But the wiki gives a quick overview.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Army_Mutinies
>The immediate cause was the extreme optimism and subsequent disappointment at the Nivelle offensive in the spring of 1917.
>The new commander General Philippe Pétain restored morale by talking to the men, promising no more suicidal attacks, providing rest for exhausted units, home furloughs, and moderate discipline.
>>82556
Experiencing that relief first hand would've really been something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63J1DbxEtGs
>>74570
It was the German miners who were brought to Serbia by the Tsar, if you're referring to the tunnelers.
>>81076
The Napoleonic period is the exception to the general rule of French winning battles due to larger numbers only. Before then for each battle won by France against a larger force there are like 5 battles lost to an inferior force in numbers.
>>74719
That's not how succession works. They turned a culturally superior Balkans into a backwater shithole with their outdated shit management.
>>82931
has the balkans even been relevant in any way after the ottomans were done ruining everything?
>>79874
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_%C4%8Cegar
>The Ottoman troops attacked five times, and the Serbs managed to repulse them five times. Each time their losses were great. Some of the Ottoman troops attacked, and some of them went ahead, and thus when they attacked for the sixth time they filled the trenches with their dead so that the alive went over their dead bodies and they began to fight against the Serbs with their bayonets, cutting and stabbing their enemies.
>The Serbian soldiers from the other trenches cried out to help Stevan. But there was no help, either because they could not help without their cavalry, or because Miloje Petrović did not allow it. When Stevan Sinđelić saw that the Ottoman troops had taken over the trench, he ran to the powder cave, took out his gun, and fired into the powder magazine.
>The ensuing explosion was so powerful that all of the surroundings were shaken, and the whole trench was caught in a cloud of dense smoke. Everyone that was in the trench was killed, as was everyone in the vicinity of it."
Kind of similar ending.
>>83079
Relevant in what way? WW1 and WW2 lots of things happened there, fall of Ottoman Empire is cause of the Balkan revolution, Yugoslavia didn't last long but had a huge impact. Also Yugoslavia tried to "unify" the third world to make a loose alliance if Warsaw Pact/NATO ever invaded. Didn't do shit of course, other countries were kind of irrelevant and it all went away with the death of Tito.
It's always been relevant but in a small way.
The Battle of Zorndorf was pretty hardcore for its time.
>The battle was described by contemporaries as the bloodiest in the 18th century. One Prussian officer reported that "bodies of Russians covered the field row by row; they kissed their cannons while their bodies were cut to pieces by our sabers, but still they would not retreat".
>>82351
Or
>imperialists destroying a Chinese rebellion against imperialistic influences
>>82916
The pic in the post you quoted literally proves you wrong
How dense and butthurt are you?
Verdun
Somme
Normandy
Battle of Vienna
Kursk
Gettysburg
>>83344
Oh yes, because European empires were absolutely evil to the Chinese and harmless Christian enclaves were monsters that deserved to be wiped out. Also European trade didn't open up China like a screaming child out of its culturally isolated mindset to actually develop as a responsible and well-administrated nation which accepted and integrated foreign ideas and technologies. It just brought opium lmao.
>>83344
This is the more accurate depiction. The wiki article forgets the Indian soldiers though, I guess they just get counted as UK instead of Raj.
(Fucking globalists)
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