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Did the Ottomans invent drag queens?
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>The köçek (plural köçekler in Turkish) was typically a very handsome young male rakkas, or dancer, who usually cross-dressed in feminine attire, and was employed as an entertainer.

>The youths, often wearing heavy makeup, would curl their hair and wear it in long tresses under a small black or red velvet hat decorated with coins, jewels and gold. [...] They were said to be "sensuous, attractive, effeminate", and their dancing "sexually provocative". Dancers minced and gyrated their hips in slow vertical and horizontal figure eights, rhythmically snapping their fingers and making suggestive gestures.
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hot. gimme more, op
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>>670315

No.

I'm happy enough to say that the idea of men wearing clothes that society has decided are more suitable for women was not invented in the last one thousand years.
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>>670315
Japanese had it way back in the Jomon era 1500 years ago.
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>>670315
That seems universal, they had young boys play the role of women in English plays.
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Was a thing in India, China, Japan, and in Europe for a while..
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>>670315
That's breddy gay senpai
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>>670315
>be turk
>dress like a woman and get raped by the Ottoman upper classes
CANT MAKE THIS UP
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>very handsome young male
>a boxhead Turd wirh a monobrow
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>>671283
Keep in mind this is before they had seen any high quality Thai ladyboys
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>>670315
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>>671283
the monobrow looks painted
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>>672081
Would the full orchestra watching you sodomize your moustached friend make it easier or harder to carry on with said sodomy?
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>>670315
Nope. India did.

Literally the foundations of ladyboy Phenomena in Indianized Southeast Asia.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)
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>>670315
I see, they're trying to compete with Turco-persan beauties.
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>>672414
What about the american version?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit
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>>672414
>hijra

lmao @ that, it means conquest for islam by settling places

basically what is happening in cuckrope
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>>672425
>hijra
>conquest
/pol/ please
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>>672435
It's not really a conspiracy, it did happen, with forced arabisation of conquered places, at least since ummayad dynasty. semitic empires actually had history of doing that before, possible nazis and soviets took example from them

some areas like persia or maghreb (and kurdistan, but there was small attempt too) succumbed to arab rule... but other were vastly colonised, population resettled, etc, capital eventually moved to baghdad or cairo to easier that

egypt, aramea, mesopotamia
otherwise explain small number of native population of those lands as compared to arab newcomers (you can clearly see this in sudan vel nubia, where they had other skin tone)
protip: those who converted to islam are known as fellah for copts and mhallami for assyrians, and those are relatively few too

not even turks were this bad in that manner and it says something

hijra was well tried in europe, on balkans, with creation of "bosniak" nation (divide and conquer - east/west germany style), or albanians pushing hard for their "greater albania", taking kosovo by superior birthrates
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>>672693
Hijra as a concept is a migration to seek a place where you can exercise your faith without oppression. Hijrah was not done under intention of conquering, but to submit to friendly society.

What you describe is conquest which anyone knowledgeable call fath or futuh.

Why South Asian transsexual use the term Hijra? Because being a transsexual means they have left their community and join new community that accept them.
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>>671283
>>672114
I'm reasonably certain that in Persianate cultures (that includes the Ottoman higher class) a monobrow was a desirable trait in women
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