>Western 'cavalry'
>Eastern 'infantry'
>>669625
> Implying knights wasn't boss on the battlefield.
>>669698
In a European setting.
Pretty shite in Asia though.
>>669625
Western knights were an effective counter to the Mongols who had wrecked the Hungarian and Polish light cavalry in the same way they had wrecked the Eastern lighter cav.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary
Knights were bretty gud.
>>669625
Why was Eastern infantry so shit though?
>>669705
They completely raped the turks.
>>669736
They relied more on horse archers, which were OP as fuck before the invention of accurate and mass produced gunpowder weapons, and heavy cavalry (cataphracts).
>>669740
In Asia, I mean. In Europe they were rekt'd by different turks.
>>669736
In the case of the persians, it's because their main function was to carry shields and protect the foot archers. Their style of warfare depended more on harassing with projectiles and deciding the battle with a cavalry charge in a weak spot, and less on infantry blocks pushing against each other.
Also persians actually had capable and well trained infantry, some said to be able to face roman legions. They were just not the main corps.
>>669726
they were slow, stupid and unskilled one samurai could defeat 10 knights
>>669836
Here's your (You)
>>669726
About half a decade worth of preparation vs a force thats splintered off after the death of the khan and his generals. Mongols' mainforces were focused on taking over China.
>>670136
The Mongols never achieved anything of note past the high middle ages period. Heavy cavalry existed until the 20th century.
>>669836
I agree, the western world really needs to learn about the superiority of Japan
>>669726
>>672039
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary
>Talabuga, who led the main army in Northern Hungary, was stopped by the heavy snow of the Carpathians. On the march up, his force was devastated by logistical factors, namely a shortage of food which caused the deaths of thousands of his soldiers, as attested to by the Galician-Volynian Chronicle and certain contemporary Polish sources,
So proud of being able to win against retards who can't plan good invasions anymore?
The mongols would have taken Poland in an united effort, end of story.
They had more infantry and cavalry then the poles, see siege of baghdad.
>>672789
meant poles AND hungarians ofc.
>>672852
>Loose against top-form mongols in 1241
>a few decades later manage to defeat some retard leading mongol hordes
>GUYS GUYS MONGOLS NEVER STOOD A CHANCE AGAINST US!
>>672877
Hey reddit!
>>672877
The time of the Mongols was over. The others have learned, the Mongols did not. And that's why they got rekt, and that's why they never achieved anything again, while Europe prospered and subdued the known world.
