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It is now 1944. Can you devise a feasible scenario in which Hitler
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It is now 1944. Can you devise a feasible scenario in which Hitler may win or at least make the war a stalemate ? is it possible ?
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what month?
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> 1944

yeah no that's too late the wheels are already in motion for the inevitable
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>>57437
January
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>>57424
>44
impossible

Kursk was in '43

shits fucked broheim
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>>57460
eesh, Russia's pretty much knocking on Poland's door by then, plus the britbongs are dropping their britbombs on Berlin..

only option is to develop nukes first
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This is for April 1944 but it gives a good approximation of what is going on.
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>>57424
Make it 1943 and this thread won't end with a no in every reply.
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even if through some herculean feat you manage to stall the russian advance the only thing you gain is Berlin getting nuked
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Withdrawing from Belarus and the Baltic will help shorten the front line and prevent the catastrophe of Bagration happening.
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>>57518
please exit /his/. you don't belong here faggot
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>>57424
>pull back

Dig in with whatever land you have left and surrender all russia that you invaded, reconsolidate everything and propose a ceasefire. The german people would welcome it, and you could justify it to the allies by saying 'we've all killed enough, let's stop this and talk'. Give a few years of bullshit armistice talks to solidify/build up whatever land you ended up holding on to and end the war with some parts of africa, poland, and part of france ect. Cut your losses then use your industrial structure to become the economic powerhouse of europe 50 years early
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>>57607
your not anon....wtf ? no name...
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>>57634
no way in hell would the russians ever accept this after how they were treated
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>>57514
That's a bit of a shit map, it entirely ignores all the Partisan territory behind the Eastern Front
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He didn't have a chance in 1939
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>>57672
Promise stalin some ridiculous cut of your GDP for the next 40 years. While he mulls it over turn the northeast of poland into a brick shithouse full of mines and artillery.
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>>57699
This.

It wasn't realistic that he would have won in the first place, improbable that they got as far as they did.
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>>57424
>>57424
hmmm... Any hypothetical relies on the benevolence of any of Germany's enemies...

He could try and appeal to the allies... or to Russia, but he really kind of nuked any bridges he had...

I'd say total loss, unless alien technology gives him nukes first.
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>>57637
he's a namefag called spacebar
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>>57703
there is literally nothing you could offer Stalin in 1944 to get him to stop, by this point the allies were fully committed to unconditional surrender
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>>57699
>>57780
So many fucking resources spent on the fucking nationalist propaganda. If he had just stuck to "joining mankind together under one banner to foster knowledge and the pursuit of happiness" he woulda been an okay guy.

Then he fucked it all up with the genocide thing.
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>>57514
make as much airplanes and tanks and bomb the ruskies
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When Stuaffenberg tried to kill him and failed, ingest a cyannide pill and finish the job.

Only way.
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>>57859
shh
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>>58061

I love Hitler. Great man, most of the time. But by 1944 he had clearly failed, and he should have admitted to the Prussian Aristocracy his failures and let them take over.
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>>57424
Absolutely not. Not after Kursk.
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>>57834
this
he could have been great
but love doesn't really unify people like hate
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>>57424
Nazi Germany lost WWII on April 23, 1933 when Herman Goring became Reiksmarshall of Aviation.
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>>57853
They had already lost control of the skies. Ruskie planes and tanks were bombing them
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