>yfw you realized God exists
>>515886
Suppose God actually exists. What then? how does this affect any of our lives? Do you think God existence automatically disproves, say, the position someone like Stirner puts in the first part of his book?
>>515889
>>515970
No, only that it guarantees an afterlife of infinite and everlasting suffering for those who embrace the likes of Stirner.
>>515982
Okay, so God exists, and what reasons would you find to assume that it is your particular religion which correctly speaks His Word and Name?
>>515984
>>515984
Does it matter? I'm not an apologist. All that matters is that access to pleasure and satisfaction of an individual is entirely subject to the will of a greater being, should he exist.
>>516004
Okay, let's assume that pleasure and satisfaction is subject to the Will of God.
It still brings the same question up: what reasons do you find that it is your particular religion which speaks His Will?
>>515970
Stirner's position is correct, except it strictly applies after the fall. According to the Philokalia, man gaining the "knowledge of good and evil", meant carnal good and evil, that is, pleasure and pain. Man "knowing" these didn't mean he didn't the faculties before, but that he gave himself over to them ("knowing" in Hebrew was also the word for raping or sex in general). Once he did, instead of corporeal pleasure and pain being harmonious with the spirit, they became overlords of him and he became enslaved to them (thus they were no longer corporeal, but carnal).
Stirner is entirely correct: Christians are "involuntary egoists". They are enslaved to egoism, a condition of the fall.
>>516028
Glad you agreed then that what is the concern of the Unique One is his alone.
>>516036
But the whole point of Christianity is to transcend the enslavement to carnal good and evil (pleasure and pain) which Stirner points out we are inescapably bound by. So Stirner's argument for voluntary egoism rests on the fall as some sort of eternal state, whereas Christianity considers the fall to be unnatural.
>>516041
The whole point is that Christianity is a spook. Have you read Art and Religion?
it's kind of obvious he don't tho
>tfw sinner
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>>515886
took you long enough
reminder
Who are you and why do I keep seeing this exact same thread in multiple boards?
>>515970
First, it probably is the Catholic God due to miracles like Lanciano happening in the Catholic Church. As such, he is the God of Bible and therefore infinite love, which is important ( >inb4 Hell: Hell is foremost the state of exclusion from God, which is the worst that can happen to a human)
>>515886
No face. Because God is a meaningless word at this point
>>515886
I remember this shit from /pol/