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Does any other empire come close to that of the ancient Finns?
>protip, none do
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>>494833
>shit outside of /b/
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>>494844
>being this jealous
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mammi
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1154 Common Era:
The Arab historian and scientist, Al Idrisi tells that the King of Finland has possessions in Norway.
1187 CE.
According to a Swedish chronicle, Karelians conquer the Swedish capital and destroy it.
ca. 1200 CE:
The Danish historian, Saxo Grammaticus, tells about Finnish kings.
1220 CE:
The Icelandic bishop, poet, and historian, Snorri Sturluson, writes The Ynglinga Saga, in which marriages and wars of Finnish and Swedish royal families are mentioned.
1230 CE:
The introduction to the Orkneyinga Saga, Fundinn Noregr, relates about the kings of Finland and Kvenland and their conquest of Norway. According to the saga, the ruling families of Sweden, Norway, the Orkney Islands, Normandy, and England descend from the aforementioned Finnish kings.
1320 through 1340 CE:
The Eric Chronicle is concocted, i. e. the tale recognized by present school history about "crusades" to Finland.
1362 CE:
The constable of the Swedish "Eastern land," meaning Finland and Karelia, is given the right to partake in the royal election. Finland becomes a plenipotentiary part of the Svea empire.

1554 CE:
A history written by Johannes Magnus, expelled from Sweden being a Catholic, is published in Rome. In the book, Finland is represented as an ancient kingdom.
1555 CE:
The famous "History of Nordic Peoples" by Olaus Magnus is published. Finland is mentioned as an old kingdom.
1598 through 1599 CE:
Finnish nobility and castle commanders fight on the side of King Sigismund against Duke Charles in the Swedish Civil War--e. g. a campaign to Upland and Stockholm. After the victory of Charles, hard times begin for the Finnish nobility and clergy. The beginning of intentional and persistent Swedification.
1616 through 1639 CE:
For political reasons, the historian Johannes Messenius serves time as prisoner at the Kajaani castle where he writes his history. Finland is noted as an ancient kingdom.
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1670's CE:
"Finnish Chronicle by Anonymous" enlists the ancient Finnish kings.
1700 CE:
"Old and New Turku" by Daniel Juslenius, in which Finland is presented as an ancient kingdom.
1700 through 1705 CE:
"Scondia Illustrata" by Johannes Messenius is printed. Finnish kings are dealt with in depth.
1728 CE:
A Chronicle of Finland by an anonymous author appears in a publication called "Schwedische Bibliothek."

1768 CE:
The historian, Tatishchev, relates about Finnish kings in his "Russian Chronicle."
1769 CE:
"Svea Rikes Historia" by Sven Bring appears. In it, Finland is still an ancient kingdom. New editions are printed in 1778, 1784, and 1790.
1771 CE:
The Norwegian Gerhard Schöning criticizes the historians' view on the Finnish kings in his work "Allgemeine Nordische Geschichte."
1772 CE:
The Swedish Johan Ihre opposes vehemently the view on the Finnish kings. Ihre does know the sagas but claims them to be fictitious balderdash. As for the ancient SWEDISH kings, he does NOT question the saga sources, nor do his successors.
1774 CE:
Billmark publishes "Finnish Chronicle in Rhymes" by J. Messenius which tells about Finnish kings as mentioned above.
1783 through 1784 CE:
The Russian empress, Catherine the Great, publishes an article about Russian history in which she considers Rurik, regarded as founder of Russia, to be a Finnish prince. The work is published in German in 1786.
1784 through 1800 CE:
Henrik Gabriel Porthan publishes the "Finnish Bishops' Chronicle" by Paul Juusten with a commentary. Porthan denies the existence of our own rulers and any independent government in Finland before the coming of the Swedes. Porthan's proofs are unfounded. For example, he claims that there could not have been kings in Finland since there were no "castle mountains" either. These attacks become understandable when one considers the fact that at the same time, Sprengtporten suggested in Russia a plan about an independent Finland.
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1789 CE:
"Mythologia Fennica" by Christfrid Ganander. Finland is represented as an ancient kingdom.
1792 CE:
Billmark, professor of history, denies the existence of Finnish kings.
Present time:
The ancient state formations of the Finns and their rulers are still carefully concealed in the common newspaper and school level education, as part of obscuring the Finnish identity. Since the 1970's, the situation has still deteriorated.
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>>494833
If it went that far back you should include doggerland too you idiot.
2/10 bait made me reply.
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>>494833
Best Korea of course
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>>494833
There was no Finnish empire. Post proofs.
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>>494833
>muh further back in the past
>muh stupidity
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>>494864
>CE
Stopped reading
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>>494993
edgy
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>>494833
this and the frisian empire are severly underrated
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