Why do people continue to contend that communism has never been tried before in debates around the practicality of the ideology? Surely ubiquitous and expedient backwards slides into petty despotism is evidence enough of the instability inherent in handing power over so much to so few.
Perhaps it'd be more appropriate to say that communism has never been accomplished before? This I fear will be seen by Marxian intellectuals as the praise of what could be, rather than the admonishment of what couldn't be that it is.
>>486910
Communism has never been tried because it's IMPOSSIBLE to try that
Unless we'll have some kind of apocalypse which will destroy all civilizations, ideologies and doctrines except the communist one.
>>486910
Too purple.
No evidence.
Trite argument.
Failure to interact with major positions in the literature.
P 52% - I know you can do better, why are you producing this shit?
Communism is for people that are ignorant of economics.
>>486985
Liberal economics is for people WHO are ignorant of communism.
>>486947
Communism will come when the contradictions between relationships of production and means of production become too big (or smthng like that).
Does anybody read around here?
>>486910
Technically real communism has never existed in its purest form.
The entire point is that it can't exist in its purest form.
>>486985
Economics are for people that are ignorant of the fact that you motherfuckers will get sent to the gulag
Communism is the the spookiest of spooks off all, its a the grandest of illusions and anyone who supports it is a misguided fool
>>489516
You're thinking of socialism. Do you read?
Not endorsing Marxism here, just reminding you that Communism is the last step in the master plan. The Left hasn't even been congratulated on being caught yet. Socialism is the part where it crashes the plane with no survivors. Communism comes later.
>>490097
>>490110
Actually, Marx said that every system fails with such contradictions, so we're both right
>>486910
Aren't there tiny little communes out there somewhere?
>>493334
>literally reductio ad absurdum at a sociological level
>>492045
I'm not sure I understand what the word contradiction means in this context. Not that Anon btw.
>>489569
It can exist in its purest form, but there is no way to acknowledge this BEFORE society is in this phase, so in essence a classical marxist always has the opportunity to eternally dodge 'marxist failures' by stating that it still wasn't the right time
>>493790
Incidentally that's around the same time utopia will be achievable so there would be no need for any human to work. Ergo even in that time frame albeit possible it still would be the lesser choice.
Communism basically needs a post-scarcity economy. But consumerism drives artificial scarcity, as long as you want consumer goods, communism doesn't exist. At best you would come up with a mix of market and non-market economies, where the basics and necessities are provided for, but luxuries and entertainment are market based.
>>493460
contradictions mean that capitalism will always want more and more profit (percentage of growth to be exact) and that some day human resources will come to the limit which cannot sustain constant growth.
>>493979
>Communism basically needs a post-scarcity economy.
We've been "post-scarcity" since agriculture.
>>495163
>Since agriculture
Since the stone age?
>>490110
>Baneposting continues 4 years later
How will this be treated if it's still happening in 21 years?
>>495288
It would be an extremely old meme.
>>495302
You'd be an old guy.
>>494456
Oh, I see. Thank you for explaining, Anon.
>>486910
I find it's capitalists who are worse for this one.
They say capitalism exists and is the best, and they use the example of the thing that won the Cold War.
Then you ask about the specifics of the thing that won the Cold War, and you find out it's not capitalist at all, it's socialist.
>>495312
For you.
>>486910
name a place that "tried communism" that wouldn't have been hopelessly fucked under the same leadership if they had believed something else.
>>495354
Russia
>>495368
>implying the Tsar would have traded dead Ukrainians for machine parts
>well maybe actually
>>490110
Do you get to bring friends?
>>495354
Cambodia
>>495409
Is this what happened when Pol Pot presided over the redistribution of property to those who live or work on those properties? And nothing else?
>curse you communism!
>people believe in le communism meme
goddamn, pick a book.
