>worst
>best
>most underrated
>most overrated
>personal favorite
>the one who would be into anime the most
> inb4 edgelords shitting on my nigga FDR
>>470981
>>worst
WW
>>best
Jackson
>>most underrated
Nixon
>>most overrated
Reagan
>>personal favorite
Teddy
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Carter
>>470985
youre presidentfu a shit
t. japanese
>>470981
>>worst
Bush, the younger
>>best
Jackson
>>most underrated
Taft
>>most overrated
Wilson
>>personal favorite
TR
>>470981
>>worst
Bush part 2
>>best
Nixon
>>most underrated
Carter
>>most overrated
Reagen/Obama
>>personal favorite
Carter/Nixon
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Nixon
>>470981
>worst
Buchanan
>best
Eisenhower
>most underrated
McKinley
>most overrated
Obama
>personal favorite
Eisenhower
>the one who would be into anime the most
Clinton, maybe Obama
>worst
James Buchanan
>best
Washington
>underrated
Van Buren
>overrated
Reagan or Eisenhower
>personal fav
Washington
>anime
Fillmore
>>470981
>>worst
Woodrow Wilson
>>best
Martin Van Buren
>>most underrated
Grover Cleveland
>>most overrated
FDR
>>personal favorite
Andrew Jackson
>>the one who would be into anime the most
James Madison
>>470987
you japs are the worst, fdr's only fault is not doing the same to the germans
>>470981
>Worst
Harrison
>best
Jefferson
>most underrated
Nixon
>most overrated
tie between JFK and Reagan
>personal favourite
Madison
>the one who would be into anime the most
Obama
>>471223
>most overrated
>tie between JFK and Reagan
Anon, that is 100% correct, and anyone who disagrees with you is a retard.
>worst
Buchanan a shit.
>best
Lincoln and FDR tie, both really good, but at dealing with very different national crises
>most underrated
George H.W. Bush, foreign policy God. The only thing he did wrong was get his retarded son elected president.
>most overrated
JFK and Reagan tie.
>Personal Favorite
Teddy Roosevelt
>anime lover
JQA was wierd as fuck, and wanted to fund an expedition to find the mole people living inside the earth, so him.
>>470981
>worst
All
>best
Inger R. Egnum
>>471278
>Inger R. Egnum
I took the bait and googled it, thinking this has to be a leader of continental congress or maybe a leader of Whiskey rebellion, that I don't konw of, but apparently you just know how to spell interregnum.
>>worst
FDR, Wilson, Truman, LBJ
>>best
Jackson
>>most underrated
G. Washington
>>most overrated
Regan
>>personal favorite
Grover
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Wilshit
>>471307
>G. Washington
Explain.
He's like number one on any list that isn't either republican or democrat circlejerk.
>>471269
H.W. also made SKS and AKs doubly expensive and made it to where I can never get a SVD
>>471315
I think he doesn't get the attention he deserves.
The early times were very hectic and he was able to keep everything togeather.
Unfortunately a lot of his legacy was lost
>>471322
>I think he doesn't get the attention he deserves.
Debatable, don't kids in US learn various myths about him and stuff?
>The early times were very hectic and he was able to keep everything togeather.
Sure, I guess.
>Unfortunately a lot of his legacy was lost
This is something I can agree with. Only thing that was kept from his legacy was 2 term presidency, and even that was not always uphold.
But then again, both Hamilton and Madison who wrote his farewell speech knew that stuff like the hope of non-partisanship was far-fetched and that parties are here to stay.
>>471337
Yes, we learn many myths about him and nothing about his actual presidency and the times that surrounded him.
>>470981
>>worst
Obama, Carter, Wilson, Grant, Pierce, Buchanan, Filmore
>>best
Madison, Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington
>>most underrated
George HW Bush, Truman, Polk, Eisenhower
>>most overrated
FDR, Kennedy, Regan, Clinton, Jackson
>>personal favorite
Based Teddy Roosevelt
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Nixon
>>471381
t. rebublican :D
>>471504
If you're OP, fuck you.
>>471509
Nah
>>471515
I don't agree with his list, but I'm not a snide slightly left of center piece of garbage like you.
>>471525
holy crap you mad
>>470986
>WW
I keep hearing americans say this. Why is that? What did he do so much different from his predecessors or Obama?
>>471634
Iraq and deficit.
His presidency was also mired with obnoxious public scandals of all types, from torture and Katrina to Scooter Libby. He was a meme machine.
>>471639
What about Clinton, wasn't it the same? He also invaded countries and had scandals.
>le i did not sleep with that woman face
>worst
W. Bush
>best
FDR
>underrated
Carter
>overrated
Reagan and JFK
>personal favorite
FDR
>the one who would be into anime the most
Jackson
>>471651
Clinton did economy good.
He became pretty unpopular towards the end of his term though.
Cant believe that no one has posted this yet
>trump is best, no others matter
>>471666
>trump
>666
>>471671
But Trump is Christian.
Why would some atheiucuck vote for him?
>>471678
>expecting logical consistency form atheists
>>470981
>>worst
LBJ or Pierce
>>best
Jefferson
>>most underrated
Nixon
>>most overrated
Washington/JFK
>>personal favorite
Jefferson and Teddy
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Taft
>worst
Obama
>best
Jefferson
>most underrated
Jefferson
>most overrated
JFK/Obongo
>Personal favorite
Jefferson
>Anime
Truman looks like a weeb
Teddy was also pretty great, FDR was also good but bloated the government beyond belief.
>worst
Buchanan by far, he basically allowed the country to dissolve
>best
Washington, Lincoln, FDR
>underrated
Wilson
>overrated
Regean, JFK, Jackson
>anime
Probably Nixon or obame
>>471788
Listen, I love Jefferson, fuck I even have a bust of the guy on my desk, but his presidency wasn't that great... in fact he kind of sold out during his presidency. The real gold of Jefferson is before and after his presidency
>>470981
>worst
Pierce
>best
Washington
>most underrated
McKinley
>most overrated
Jefferson
>personal favorite
Depends: in terms of presidency, Arthur. In terms of overall life/personality, Garfield.
>the one who would most be into anime
Fillmore :^)
>worst
LBJ and Wilson tie
>best
Eisenhower
>most underrated
Hoover
>most overrated
JFK
>personal favorite
Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Taft
>>471322
Yeah, people seem to be more aware of General Washington than President Washington. The policies of Hamilton combined with the respect Washington commanded and his evenhanded (though Federalist leaning) tone helped keep the country from falling apart during the early Republic. I don't think you could've really had anyone else play the role of President at the time that would've been able to do the same. Shit, even by the end things were getting testy for Washington as the Jeffersonians were stepping up attacks on him as well.
>>470981
>worst
Tyler, Pierce
>best
Washington, Lincoln
>most underrated
John Adams, John Q. Adams, Richard Nixon
>personal favorite
John Adams
>anime
Madison, Obama
What's the problem with Wilson?
>>472146
Federal Reserve and income tax if you're a libertarian/conservative, racism if you're an SJW, Red Scare and persecution of labor unions and anti-war protesters if you're a commie, increasing the size and power of big government in general and restricting freedoms.
>all these teddy lovers
Why?
>>472173
I see, thanks
>>472177
He is romanticized as "HE BEAT BIG MONEY" and so on.
He really wasn't that great, but he was kind of a badass.
>>472196
I just like him because he seems cool and he did a lot for the national parks.
>>471204
>Eisenhower
>overrated
Nigger, most Americans think the Eisenhower administration was in the 1850s.
That isn't how you spell JFK.
>>471788
>Harry S Truman
>Harry "The Nip Crippler" Truman
>Harry "Whack-a-Jap" Truman
>Harry "I Never Told Anybody What The S Is For But It's Secretly For 'Slaughter The Yellow Dogs'" Truman
>a weeb
>Worst
Jimmy Carter, but fuck Andrew Johnson and FDR too
>Best
George Washington
>Most Underrated
Richard Nixon
>Most Overrated
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
>Personal Favorite
Theodore Roosevelt
>The One who would be into anime the most
If you don't answer James Buchanan, you're wrong
>>471269
>>best
>Lincoln and FDR tie, both really good, but at dealing with very different national crises
fucking statists
[spoiler]I don't actually hate lincoln though[/spoiler]
>>472225
>using the term statist unironically
autism
>>472173
>increasing size of big gubbermint
>a bad thing
Also, what freedoms did he restrict
>>472236
>worst
Buchanan
>best
Teddy
>most underrated
Monroe or Nixon
>most overrated
Wilson or Reagan
>personal favorite
Teddy (or Coolidge for the memes)
>the one who would be into anime the most
JQA
>>472236
Statist is a legitimate term that legitimate academics in political science, economic history, American history, etc. use fucktard. Just because you are ignorant of basic shit doesn't mean everyone else is autistic.
>>472238
>government
>good in any way
>>472238
Well for one, the Espionage Act he signed in 1917 is still on the books.
>>472248
>being this much of an anarchist
I thought 16 year olds weren't allowed here
>>472245
Found the libertarian lol
>>472146
Ron Paul fans think the Federal Reserve, fiat currency, and income tax (i.e. the foundations of a complex stable modern economy) are the devil and that we should stand by while Russia and China do whatever they want to other countries, so naturally they detest the man who introduced vast bureaucratic reform and stamped out corruption, halted German militarism in its tracks, and set America on her foreign policy path for the past century.
Friendly reminder that if America had ratified Wilson's League of Nations WWII would never have happened and the Pax Americana would have begun 25 yeara earlier.
>>471788
>Truman looks like a weeb
Oh the irony
>>472257
>Friendly reminder that if America had ratified Wilson's League of Nations WWII would never have happened and the Pax Americana would have begun 25 yeara earlier
This is what liberals actually believe
>>472257
Spoken like a True Believer of Wilsonian Interventionism. Absolutely disgusting.
>>472271
It's been around for decades in academic discourse.
Worst: Hoover
Best: Eisenhower
Most underrated: JQA
Most overrated: Teddy R.
Personal favourite: Eisenhower
Into anime: Clinton
>>472295
>Worst: Hoover
Nice meme.
>>472269
The Treaty of Versaille was written under the assumption that America would help enforce it. Were that a given it would have created a new global order and be regarded as an excellent treaty. 2bh it kind of still is considering the vast scope of what it needed to accomplish.
>>472277
>The term "statism" was introduced to American political discourse by the writer Ayn Rand[2] in a series of articles in 1962.[3][4]
Oh. "Academic"
>>472299
>it would have created a new global order
:^)
I'd rather have sovereignty, thanks.
>>472307
> Global cooperation of any kind and national sovereignty are mutually independent
Another great lolbertarian meme. All of this Wilson bashing is pretty much a product of very recent (past decade) memeology taken right from Glenn Beck.
>>472217
Truman was into some pretty serious BDSM
Just look at how Japan submitted, it made him hard
>>471204
More like Van Ruin.
amirite
>>471351
I heard the motherfucker had, like, thirty goddamn dicks
>>470981
>worst
FDR
>best
Jefferson
>most underrated
Coolidge
>most overrated
FDR
>personal favorite
Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Clinton
>>472298
Not the worst, definitely. He just looked weak and ineffectual because he was president at one of the worst times possible. (Plus he dindu nuffin bout it)
>>472379
>(Plus he dindu nuffin bout it)
forgot pic
>>470981
>worst
Shrub/Andrew Johnson
>best
FDR
>most underrated
Nixon
>most overrated
Kennedy/Reagan/Obama
>personal favorite
FDR
>the one who would be into anime the most
Bush Sr.
all wartime presidents are overrated desu
>worst
Buchanan
>best
Polk
>most underrated
Polk
>most overrated
Reagan
>the one who would be into anime the most
LBJ
>>472225
>I don't actually hate lincoln though
It's kind of funny because Lincoln himself was a very polarizing figure during his presidency. Even among his own party or people who would be his supporters he was not a popular person. He basically won the nomination for the 1864 election due to stacking it with people he had appointed in his first term and even then only barely won re-election which you can maybe attribute more to people hating McClellan (and even then, votes shift a percent and we're probably looking at President McClellan) and Sherman capturing Atlanta than people liking Lincoln.
If he'd never been assassinated (and the canonization into American sainthood that followed), I think he'd be looked at very differently if he wasn't killed. Probably the 19th century equivalent of LBJ or someone like that in that maybe he's generally regarded as good, especially by historians, but public opinion being vastly different.
>worst
Harding
>best
Lincoln
>most underrated
HW Bush
>most overrated
Kennedy
>personal favorite
In terms of policy, Eisenhower. In terms of personality, either Wilson or Teddy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8N7BSsU5oo
>worst
A. Johnson or Bush 2
>best
Abraham Lincoln
>most underrated
John Adams
>personal favorite
Lyndon B. Johnson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Pierce
>>473557
forgot
>most overrated
T. Jeff
>>472173
Also reversing isolationist policies, giving the US a more prominent global role and joining (founding) the league of nations. All of those are disliked by some. Some would also say that endorsing national self-determination was a bad idea too.
>>472217
Well he is indirectly responsible for creating anime so..
>worst
Grant, who the fuck thought electing a drunk burned out general with a penchant for nepotism was a good idea?
>best
Eisenhower. The only thing about him that wasn't perfect was his foreign policy (like supporting the perfidious brits in Iran)
>most underrated
Nixon. He did an okay job overall, I don't know why he's so hated.
>most overrated
Reagan and JFK tie, I guess
>personal favorite
Martin Van Buren, because compromise is always possible.
>the one who would be into anime the most
I think Jefferson would be into slice of life moeblobs. Eisenhower would love GuP and Jackson would probably watch Evangelion.
>Worst
Grant--alcoholic, corrupt, incompetent
>Best
Andrew Jackson--self explanatory
>Most Underrated
James K. Polk--pretty badass for subjugating Mexico
>Most overrated
Lincoln--he actually tore up the constitution, the absolute madman!
>Personal favorite
George Washington always and forever, embodies everything we should aspire to be
>le ebin meme question
back to reddit
>>473557
>Johnson
>worst
Wew lad, the Yankee memes are strong with this one
>He should've simply gone along with the radical republicans and enacted ridiculous punitive measures that would've set the South back even further economically!! Muh equality amirite?
>choosing anything but obama for anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBzgvF9N_pc
>Worst
Bush
>Best
Washington, Jackson, or FDR
>Most Underrated
Monroe
>Most Overrated
Lincoln
>Personal Favorite
tie between Washington and Teddy Roosevelt
>Animoo
Gerald Ford looks the part
>worst
Harding
>best
FDR
>most underrated
Coolidge
>most overrated
Andrew Jackson
>personal favorite
Jefferson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Buchanan, as a forever alone bachelor.
>>worst
Obongo, tied with Bill Clitoris
>>best
Teddy "the Bear" Roosevelt
>>most underrated
The Watergate Guy
>>most overrated
Ape Lincoln
>>personal favorite
Cunt Nixon
>>the one who would be into anime the most
FDR
>>470981
>Worst
Reagan
>Best
George Washington
>Most Underrated
Ulysses
>Most Overrated
JFK
>Personal Favorite
Clinton
>The one who would be into anime the most
Truman
Lots of love for Teddy Roosevelt here. Can someone recommend a good book about him?
>>475236
>obongo was the POTUS for weebs
>Trump won't make anime real again
>>475317
Edmund Morris wrote three volumes on the guy and supposedly they're pretty comprehensive and authoritative, as well as being enjoyable reads.
>>475188
>Grant
>corrupt
He was overly trusting of his friends and engaged in the spoils system that was so common to all politicians at the time but even his biggest detractors admit that he himself wasn't corrupt, everyone around him was.
>worst
George W. Bush
>best
Andrew Jackson
>most underrated
Richard Nixon
>most overrated
John F. Kennedy
>personal favorite
Thomas Jefferson
>the one who would be into anime the most
I guess James Buchanan since he couldn't get a real wife.
>>472351
Underrated post.
>worst
Johnson
>best
Abe
>most under8ed
Polk by a mile
>most overrated
JFK
>personal favorite
FDR
>weeb
Teddy
OP here, I'm content with the general JFK-shitting.
>>470981
>worst
Wilson
>best
Madison
>most underrated
Nixon
>most overrated
Washington
>personal favorite
Madison
>the one who would be into anime the most
Probably JQA. He's beta enough.
>all these jackson fans
Utter shite
>>476045
He is le memiest
Worst: Buchanan
Best: T. Roosevelt
Underrated: Monroe
Overrated: FD Roosevelt
Personal Favorite: Jackson
Anime: Buchanan
>>476057
Jackson and Teddy share a lot of the same characteristics. They were sheer badasses and pretty neat dudes, but they were actually pretty fucking awful Presidents.
>>476073
Jackson basically invented widespread corruption in the government
>>476073
American politics tend to produce this type of presidents once every 50 years or so. LBJ and GWB also fit the bill (and were rather shitty as well).
>>476081
>basically invented widespread corruption in the government
Well, that was actually Washington, but sure.
>>476083
>spoils system
>>476099
>literally did whatever Hamilton told him to for 8 years
>Allowed Federalist party to rule with an iron fist because of it
>Nearly broke America into civil war because Americans were tired of Federalist shit
>Literally brought the US to the brink of economic destruction before it was a decade old so Hamilton and his buddies could make bank
Jackson was just another greivance in a long line of corrupt politics.
>>476082
How are either of those in any way badass? Flying planes in Texas so you don't have to go to Vietnam?
>>476108
But Washington was also shit as a general, I always heard he was at least a great politician. Did he have no qualities at all?
>>476115
He wasn't shit as a general, just mediocre. He was a great leader. The people who make him out to be a great politician are those who claim so because he set the "rules" of the Presidency. If judged by the same standard of more recent Presidents, he's certainly one of the worst in terms of policies.
>>476109
Not really bad-ass in the sense of war stories but in the more modern sense of jockey and physically intimidating. Arguably getting shot in the ass hasn't been as common of a pastime in the second part of the 20th century as it was in 1900 and earlier.
>>471870
>Selling out during presidency
>implying that doesn't come with presidency
>>476154
The economic policies pushed by Washington, since he was puppeted by Hamilton and the Federalist Party, crippled American abilities to pay back war debts. This doesn't take into account the loose accounting of the First Bank of the United States, built solely on Hamilton's economic policy, which crippled the ability to pay debts even further. We couldn't afford to import food for Americans and many states threatened to leave the Union ~1795 or so. His neutrality stance brought about an undeclared Naval War with France, though this generally gets heaped into Adams presidency, which made trade even more difficult. Since the American economy was built on commerce, mainly tobacco, we almost died before we were even out of infancy.
Do modern Republican presidents tend to be either extremely shitty or great, while modern Democratic presidents tend to congregate around the middle?
Great:
>Teddy
>Eisenhower
>Reagan
Terrible:
>Hoover
>Nixon
>W Bush
For Dems they're all somewhere between "meh" and "serviceable". With the exception of wartime presidents, but that's a different issue altogether.
>>476173
So did things turned around or at least got less worse during Jefferson?
>>476173
Huh? Without the First Bank the US would have gone completely broke after the war. Its credit would be literally zero.
>>470981
>worst
Harrison
>best
Washington
>most underrated
Taft
>most overrated
Reagan to some, Roosevelt to others
>personal favorite
Jefferson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Clinton
>>476185
Jefferson turned things towards the better, but it was mostly just reverting Federalist policies that came about during the Quasi-war. Hamilton really cemented Americas push toward greatness though.
>>476189
This is a fair point, but the little credit the US had after the institution of a National bank was squandered by the First Bank which is why it was abolished and the Second Bank was put up in it's place. The First Bank was pretty much cronyism for Hamilton and his Federalist buddies.
>>476182
>Reagan
>great
>Nixon
>terrible
>all these college kids saying W Bush is the worst president
top kek
>>476192
>>the one who would be into anime the most
>Clinton
Clinton was into fat chicks
>>476232
>implying Clinton wouldn't love slice of life moe shit
>>476220
>all these basement dwellers saying Obama is the worst pres
>>470981
>worst
Buchanan
>best
TR
>most underrated
Hoover
>most overrated
Kennedy
>personal favorite
Nixon
>the one who would be into anime the most
Truman
>>476082
Dubya wishes he was as alpha as LBJ.
>>476115
Washington was great at retreating which isn't a slight at all. When he needed to fall back he was able to do so in an orderly and effective manner without having everything slip into chaos and panic.
>worst
Abraham Lincoln. I would have included him in overrated, but this guy is responsible for the most American deaths in a war ever, and egregious overstepping of constitutional authority. The United States of America is now the United Provinces of Washington DC because of him also, and our regional traditions and identities are still in steep decline today because of him. He is also worshiped on almost a demi-god level for supposedly being some champion of equality and freedom (which he was not). Made the union involuntary, shitting on the principle of secession, which regardless of how you view the CSA, was an important check on the balance of the power of the federal government much like Britain's threats of secession are shaping the EU for the better today.
>best
Any of the founding fathers, regardless of their differences and dabbling in typical political bullshit these were all admirable men who really "got" what the USA was supposed to be (having basically designed it ground up). As far as modern presidents Eisenhower, and Kennedy.
>most underrated
Richard Nixon, he did a lot of good and people tend to ignore that, even if he was an autist.
>most overrated
Theodore Roosevelt was based and a very admirable man, but was also an imperialist and generally not reflective of what America is supposed to be about politically.
>personal favorite
Eisenhower, because I'm a 50s Ameriboo.
>the one who would be into anime the most
Thomas Jefferson, being almost certainly a confirmed aspie.
>>475296
yr personal favorite is the one that ran arguably the most powerful nation in modern history (1990s America) and yet sat by and did nothing while 2 genocides occurred, which he was fully aware of before the systematic killing even began? personally im pretty proud that clinton, other than in your post, was only listed as either overrated or the one who'd be into anime, b/c he was a straight up sociopathic, nationalist cunt
>all these people listing Buchanan as worst
omg, check your privilege you fucking homophobe shitlords.
>>476749
Pat Buchanan browses 4chan?
Who would've thunk.
>>476776
>liberal """humor"""
>these new wave Jackson haters
(Bringing his fist down upon the table)
I will rout you out!
>>470981
>>worst
LBJ
>>best
Jackson
>>most underrated
Polk
>>most overrated
Obeezie
>>personal favorite
Either Polk or Teddy
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Post-dementia Reagan
Is there like a book or book series perhaps that go through the precidency as a whole and like roughly sum up all of them ?
>>474237
I would say being a hypocritical, racist fuckhead about it was a bad idea.
>>471631
I and many others hate Wilson because he irrevocably ended our isolationist policy while his election slogan was "he kept us out of the war"
>>470981
>Worst
Buchanan
>Best
TR
>Most underrated
Polk
>Most overrated
Obama
>Personal Favorite
TR/Jackson
>Who would be into anime
Carter
Who /lion/ here? I also want to read Jacksonland.
>>470981
>worst
Harrison
>best
W A S H I N G T O N
>most underrated
Polk
>most overrated
Jefferson
>personal favorite
Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Obama
>worst
Buchanan
>best
Washington
>most underrated
Grant
>most overrated
Reagan
>personal favorite
Taylor and Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Obama
>worst
Carter, Hoover
>best
Lincoln
>most underrated
McKinley, Nixon
>most overrated
FDR, JFK, Reagan
>personal favorite
Jackson
>worst
Hoover
>best
Washington or Van Buren
>underrated
Van Buren
>overrated
Can overrated be considered for overhated, too? Because I'd go Nixon. Dude fucked up bigtime and that shit was fucking retarded, but he did some good, too.
>Personal favorite
Van Buren, Jackson, JFK, Garfield
>Most into anime
I think Truman would like it the most. Rebuilt Japan and all.
>>470981
>worst
Wilson
>best
Washington
>underrated
Carter
>overrated
Lincoln, Reagan
>personal favorite
Washington, McKinley and Polk are cool too in a different way.
>the one who would be into anime the most
Jackson
>>470981
>>worst
Obama
>best
Reagan
>most underrated
Andrew Jackson
>most overrated
FDR
Personal favorite
>Reagan
>The one who would be into anime the most
Woodrow Wilson
>>478663
>By May 1806, Charles Dickinson had published an attack on Jackson in the local newspaper, and it resulted in a written challenge from Jackson to a duel. Since Dickinson was considered an expert shot, Jackson determined it would be best to let Dickinson turn and fire first, hoping that his aim might be spoiled in his quickness; Jackson would wait and take careful aim at Dickinson. Dickinson did fire first, hitting Jackson in the chest. The bullet that struck Jackson was so close to his heart that it was never safely removed. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and shot and killed him. Jackson's behavior in the duel outraged men of honor in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a violent, vengeful man.
Holy shit this guy's the man.
>>470981
>>worst
James Buchanan, literally allows nation to fall apart.
>best
Washington, for sake of being the glue that held together the young nation.
>most underrated
James K. Polk, only President to fulfil all his campaign promises. Did it in one term, too, the try-hard.
>most overrated
Tie between FDR and Reagan, since both heralded as the messiah by their respective parties.
>Personal favorite
Teddy Roosevelt, for the memes.
>The one who would be into anime the most
Clinton would make for an excellent SoL anime, complete with a love triangle.
>>471662
>Clinton did economy good.
kek. Why do people think that a decent economy is a direct reflection of a president's policy? Did Clinton do something to directly foster the dot com bubble or the other sweeping economic changes as a result of technology that occured in the nineties?
>all these Jackson best president
Ahh yes. The favorite president of the "I learned my history from cracked.com" crowd.
>worst
Buchanan or A. Johnson. Both were hogtied by their political circumstance and lacked the strength of character to overcome it.
>Best
Washington or Lincoln. Convincing arguments can be made for both. Two men of tremendous resolve in the face of overwhelming pressure.
>Underrated
John Q. Adams, McKinley. Quincy gets overshadowed by the polarizing Jackson despite being far more qualified for the position. McKinley's stalwart leadership during the Spanish American War and the ensuing political fracas over territories is an overlooked feat of political acumen, especially considering the lamentable condition of the War Department he inherited, a relic from the Civil War era.
>Overrated
JFK, Reagan
>Personal Favorite
John Adams, but only because I read that Mccullough biography recently. My favorite tends to change as I learn more about each one.
>>478750
Rainmaker fallacy.
>>479054
Jackson is the best president because he was the only halfway competent person in the War of 1812 on America's side and got the country a fuckton of land for nothing. The personal shit is just fun to talk about.
>>479068
>best president
>because of something he did before he was president
Thank you for proving my point.
>>479085
>says that's a bad thing, then calls Washington, a guy who's known almost entirely by his actions before becoming president, one of the best presidents ever
>>479093
>a guy who's known almost entirely by his actions before becoming president
What world do you live in? Go ask 100 people on the street who George Washington was and see how many people say "America's first president" and how many say "revolutionary general." Don't bother responding until you've come back.
>>479068
>got the country a fuckton of land for nothing
We didn't gain any land in the War of 1812. We only used Jackson as a hedge against the Spanish who pussed out and gave us Florida, well after the war was over with Britain.
>>470981
>worst
Harding, Dubya, Buchanan
>best
Roosevelts, Eisenhower
>underrated
Wilson (by isolationist dumbasses) Nixon (just because I love Secret Honor), Carter
>overrated
Jackson, Washington (as a PRESIDENT), JFK
>personal favorite
Wilson and FDR for their policy, Nixon for who he was as a person
>anime
As mentioned above, Quincy Adams, as well as Truman
>>473328
yeah it's funny how he is celebrated as a champion of race relations by modern historians while his successor Johnson followed Lincolns plan in regards to reconstruction and ran right into the buzzsaw that was the Radical Republicans and is now hated by modern historians for being a southern sympathizing bigot.
>>479107
Not him but how many people would know about Valley Forge, or even that cherry tree, and how many about the Whiskey Rebellion?
>worst
Harding
>best
FDR
>underrated
JQA
>overrated
JFK/Reagan
>personal favourite
Jefferson
>anime
Jefferson - known to chase slave girls and quite possible an actual autist, snap call
has Reagan become so overrated that he is now underrated? I was only a kid but people forget how well liked and respected he was, I mean holy shit go look at those electoral maps. Yet, after 30 years of the Left just shitting on him at every possible convenience, he has now somehow become controversial.
>>479167
I think his importance and popularity have been only growing after the fact. His presidency wasn't that big of a deal, really. When it came to policy he often caved in, and had his fair share of scandals. But he know how to talk and to influence public discourse, which is largely a long-term impact. It became almost hagiographic especially after his death.
>worst
FDR
>Best
Washington.
>most underrated
Hoover.
>most overrated
Lincoln
>Personal favorite
Andrew Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Probably Jefferson.
>>472448
YOUNG HICKORY 4EVA
>>478663
How can you be this trashy
>>479837
>caring about Muslims and Africans
>>479837
What is this, Chomsky b8?
>>471504
:D
>Wilson
>Eisenhower
>Nixon
>JFK/Reagan
>Eisenhower
>FDR
>>475188
legit, whats so good about Jackson? he ruined the central banking of america and gave the president too much power when he overruled the supreme court.
>>480921
He tried to save America from the banks, but he couldn't keep those serpents away.
He was also generally a bad ass.
The Supreme courts position itself is pretty authoritarian, especially since the president appoints them.
>>471083
"I'm not coming to bed Hillary, I got Ebina now"
>>470981
>Wilson
>Washington
>Nixon
>JFK
>Probably TR
>Probably Slippery Willy
>>481082
>tipping intensifies
>>481082
yeah ethnic cleansing of natives is so bad ass
>worst
buchanan
>best
franklin roosevelt
>most underrated
eisenhower
>most overrated
reagan
>personal favorite
lincoln
>worst
Either Buchanan or Hoover
>best
Washington
>most underrated
Nixon or Truman
>most overrated
Lincoln
>personal favorite
Grant
>the one who would be into anime the most
Jefferson
>>481224
Are those wax figures or actors?
>>481246
Wax
>>470981
>worst
Buchanan
>best
FDR
>most underrated
Polk
>most overrated
JFK, Reagan
>personal favorite
Truman
>into anime the most
Coolidge, he was an autist in social settings. I feel like Lindsey Graham would prob be into it as well
>get a letter signed by 1,000 economists telling you to veto a tariff
>sign it
>>470981
>>worst
It's hard because there's not much difference between Reagan, the Bushes Clinton and Obama but one of them for sure.
>>best
Either Jefferson or Jackson
>>most underrated
Honestly don't know
>>most overrated
Reagan
>>personal favorite
In terms of accomplishments as president it would have to be T Roosevelt in terms of biography Jefferson
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Obongo
The best President is the one who fucked things up the least.
>>476749
Like I said, I think Lincoln would be a much more controversial president if he hadn't been killed. He was widely disliked even by Republicans and other pro-Union and anti-slavery types right up until the moment Booth shot him.
>>478120
Benjamin Harrison, right? William Henry's someone, like Garfield and maybe Taylor, who you can't really say was good or not because his term was practically non-existant.
>>482377
Based, fuck economists
>worst
JFK, LBJ, Reagan, GWB, Obama
>best
Eisenhower, FDR
>most underrated
Eisenhower
>most overrated
Reagan
>personal favorite
Eisenhower
>the one who would be into anime the most
Ford
>>482854
Economists are like weathermen but weathermen at least acknowledge their errors.
>>482994
"Relocation" that ended up killing thousands due to negligence and incompetence.
Forcing the Cherokees in particular to move off their land was heinous. They not only attempted to fully integrate, they had basically adopted the US as their homeland, and fought in nearly every American conflict, only to be betrayed and forced to move half-way across the continent because some greedy fucks in congress wanted to mine the gold on their land.
The ToT is despicable. There was nothing wrong with the persecuting of natives who attacked settlers or fought against the US, but the Cherokee literally did nothing wrong.
>>482723
That would probably be Coolidge then
>>472360
sometimes I wonder if people who hate FDR only hate him because so many consider him to be the best
like, there are plenty of presidents in recent memory who were objectively worse for the country and world at large
>>484103
Depends on how you view socialism. Half of the people love him, other half hate him.
Even though he did get us out of the depression, his programs and policies removed competition and allowed corporations/businesses to collude with each other which unnecessarily delayed the depression. The great thing about competition is that the economy becomes self-correcting.
>>483060
Still isn't ethnic clensing, savages are savages.
>>470981
> worst
Probably Martin Van Buren
> best
Teddy Roosevelt
> most underrated
Calvin Coolidge
> most overrated
Woodrow Wilson
> personal favorite
Calvin Coolidge
> the one who would be into anime the most
FDR
I think Polk, Cleveland, and Arthur are sorely underrated.
>>485643
>>484103
Also remember that he looks worse with 70 years of hindsight since many programs put in place were never reformed or phased out with changing circumstances FDR couldn't foresee. For example: Social Security, it made sense when FDR put in place and worked well but was created with the expectation that aged ratios stay relatively constant. Then, after FDR died, the Baby Boom happened and said Boomers fucked i tall up by not having enough kids of their own to keep the system working the way it was intended -- with an ageing population you have less people putting in and more people taking.
Curiously enough, in modern times one of the biggest criticisms of FDR was that he was too socialist, but one of the biggest criticisms back when he was in office was that he wasn't socialist ENOUGH.
>>472225
>whining about the use of constitutional federal power to deal with national crises
>>479203
>that list
You need to be at least 18 to post on 4chan anon. And no, being 'mature' for an edgelord 13 year old doesn't count.
>>470981
>worst
Reagan
>best
FDR
>most underrated
Obama
>most overrated
JFK
>personal favorite
Clinton
>the one who would be into anime the most
Obama
>worst
Buccanan
>best
Polk
>most underrated
Taft
>most overrated
>JFK
>personal favorite
Jackson
>the one who would be into anime the most
Clinton
>worst
Wilson
>best
FDR
>most underrated
Eisenhower,
>most overrated
Reagan
>personal favorite
LBJ
>the one who would be into anime the most
I imagine Clinton watching NGE in the 90s
>>472271
>implying "statism" is exclusively a rightist term
Lefties don't like state atrocities and state-sponsered systems of violence
>>488211
>constitutional
No.
>>490553
>being this retarded
Bruh it's literally written into the original constitution that federal power trumps state power
>>490553
What a fucking hick state.
We got a bunch of answers here already. Someone make a chart.
>>490617
>10th amendment
9th amendment contradicts that so it's fair game
>>470981
>>worst
Bush/Obama split the vote, for the nonstop clusterfuck that the last 15 years have turned into
>>best
Franklin D. Roosevelt, turned us into a full fledged superpower
>>most underrated
H.W., foreign policy god
>>most overrated
Kennedy, really didn't do that much, but admittedly very inspirational dude
>>personal favorite
Tricky Dick, come on, he was like a real life David Xanatos
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Carter, since he essentially got tentacle raped in the 1980 elections.
>>485968
Arthur was definitely a good one. Not flashy but I like the idea of going from corrupt beneficiary of the patronage system to paragon of upright honesty is a pretty neat transformation. Guy was incredibly popular as president as well.
Shame Bright's disease pretty much forced him out of a second run. Probably would've beat Cleveland considering he only won 1884 by 1000 or so votes in New York.
>>471504
To be fair, he put Reagan in the most overrated, which Republicans love to masturbate to him despite the fact they called his economics "voodoo economics" at the time.
>>worst
Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Obama, Bush Sr. and 2nd, WW, Filmore
>>best
James Madison, Theodore Roosevelt, Jackson
>>most underrated
Nixon, Jefferson
>>most overrated
Conservatives:Reagan
Democrats:Clinton
Most people: FDR and JFK, Lincoln(He obviously loved black people).
Southern Democrats: Carter
>>Personal Favorite
Jefferson(Louisiana Purchase/pivotal in countries founding
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Teddy
>>490553
>Nullification
>You have now power here
It's da Cibil War all ober again!
>worst
John Fucking Adams
I fucking hate this little shit, literally everything he did as a president was terrible, he 100% sold out the values of the Revolution, and any positive of his administration were the result of his advisors.
>best
Andrew Jackson
Anyone who disagrees is generally a fag who can't handle the fact that the tough times Jackson oversaw called for tough measures. Even if his efforts to keep America unified and together hadn't happened you still have the dissolution of the Bank and the fact that he generally expanded the sovereignty of the people. Also fuck John Marshall you fucking faggot.
>most underrated
James Monroe
Era of Good Feelings and generally being a cool guy who applied himself to everything that came his way
>most overrated
Lincoln
Suspension of constitutional rights to habeas corpus sucks plus He was a lot more underhanded than he's portrayed
>personal favorite
Jackson again but mostly for how hard he went with his banter and his willingness to fuck shit up when it needed fucking up
>the one who would be into anime the most
Buchanan would have wanted to be the little girl no doubt
>>470981
>worst
Woodrow Wilson
>best
Washington
>underrated
Carter
>overrated
FDR
>personal favorite
Teddy Roosevelt
>the one who would be into anime the most
Madison
>>495515
Son, you're on a Tibetan pottery website. No need to act so tough
>>495602
Yes it does you fucking moron
>>495622
No it doesn't you fucking moron.
You're making the affirmative claim, prove it.
It's just a statement of
"Liberties written here don't cover the scope of all the rights that exist".
I'm pretty sure those smart, rich, white, old men would know if it was contradictory.
>>495642
The enumeration of rights in the constitution is contradictory; that's the point. It's so any position in the future can be defended. How can the elastic clause and the tenth amendment coexist logically? What about the full faith and credit line and any notion of federalism?
>>495710
The elastic clause is specifically for times of crisis. And it is unfortunate that it was ever put in place, as it is too tempting to be abused by the sociopaths that "we" elect.
>>495723
There's absolutely no evidence supporting that
>>495733
There is of course, but the elastic clause was a pretty big point of contention. It had to be kind slipped in.
The 9th amendment doesn't contradict the 10th.
>>495759
>there is of course
Source?
>>495770
You have yet to back up a single one of your claims.
You shall only receive the proper amount of political discourse that you provide.
>>495820
So nothing
>>470981
>worst
Bush: Towers edition.
>best
Washington or FDR
>underrated
Truman
>overrated
Lincoln
>favorite
Can't say, really.
>anime
Probably WW tbqh familia.
>>470981
>worst
Warren G. Harding
>best
Washington and Jefferson
>underrated
in terms of personal character Dubya desu, his administration was shit tho
also James K. Polk
>overrated
FDR or Reagan
>Personal Favorite
Based Coolidge
>the one who would be into anime the most
Grover Cleveland
