Okay, so as we all know, 4chan was founded as a Japanese Culture and Anime website. So I think it only stands to reason that we have approved /his/ animes.
"This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. "
Berserk is the first anime that comes to mind.
>>43594
Go on
>>43594
>classical artwork
I don't suppose that means art older than 25 years does it?
>>43594
Vagabond? Seems more /his/ than a fantasy work. Hell, I'd rank Fate much higher up than Berserk as far as how /his/ it is.
>>43714
OP here
If I had to absolutely guess, and this is just my personal opinion on what makes something "Classic" I would say it probably needs to be at least 50 years old. But 100 is probably safer.
Question : How do we feel about period pieces such as Grave of the Fireflies?
I would say they're certainly historical.
>>43594
>Vinland Saga
To start with, really enjoyable. Not perfect, but I like it.
>Ikkitousen
I learnt about Three Kingdoms thanks to Ikkitousen, is an echii about schoolgirls and guys fighting. Yet pretty cool manga.
>Adolf
Cause this board is full of Nazis and we all know it.
>Bokko
End of Warring Period China. I like the chapters about the siege more.
There are more, but these are the ones that I first came to my head, and that I had read.
>>43594
>tfw the only accurate historical combat in an anime is from an awful witch BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFOJFyTl1U
Okay, but let's actually discuss anime based on history.
Like, for example, Junketsu no Maria. Set during the Hundred Years' War
>>43594
the best manga about historical combat is kingdom, don't come near the anime though it's garbage adaptation
If you're interested in the Three Kingdoms, there's a whole wealth of material. Ravages of Time is a good serious start, and eventually you'll work you way down (or up) to Koihime Musou.
Hetalia is /his/: The Anime
>>44035
Oh, also Otoyomegatari and Kutsuzure Sensen - Witch Vasenka's War
OP here with another important question :
Which one of these are fantasy versions of /his/ and which ones are closer to realistic?
>>44341
Hetalia is gay: The Anime
>>44340
The only issue with Ravages is that the early chapters have a very rough translation. If you can muscle through them, it's rewarding.
>>44511
All of them are exaggerated for dramatic effect, obviously, but the ones mentioned that are at least semi-grounded in history and don't really have any magic/fantasy are Ravages, Vinland Saga, Kingdom, and Adolf. Some have fairly realistic historical settings like Otoyomegatari. Junketsu no Maria and Koihime Musou are historical settings mixed with fantasy, magic in the former and gender bending/time travel in the latter.
If you want historical material you should really stick to manga over anime, honestly.
>>44691
Another manga worth mentioning is Historie, which is about Eumenes.
>>43899
Actually made me shed a tear at the end.
>>44102
Yeah, too bad the accurate depictions are ruined by cringe-worthy characters.
>>44717
Another manga worth looking up is Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal, covering the Punic War and Vagabond, about Miyamoto Musashi.
>>44863
>there are mangas especifically printed to teach history btw. i doubt they're scanlated tho
B-B-But I want them...
How accurate is the Wind Rises when it comes to the timeline of his accomplishments?
I know they took liberties with the dream sequences and probably with his relationships
>>43594
Does this mean we can talk about UC Gundam?
It's pretty /his/ related.
>>44926
gotta learn japanese then
http://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/312002/vol_no/001?aff=4f321de627c6a62dba7b140306dcdb76e7b91ef1
>>45127
How can gundam be /his/? I mean, I understand if it's heavy into law, philosophy, and the like.
>>45133
I'll be honest, I really wish more history was taught through graphic novel form. I really hate reading for the most part.
>MUH BOOKS WITH PICTURES
>>45154
It's the history of the future.
Also history is pretty much /war/ which means studying it leads to pic related.
>>45178
It does a lot to depict the aesthetics of a time period which are pretty important to the wider picture.
>>45154
It is heavy in all three of those things
imho Souten Kouro is the best Three Kingdoms anime/manga.
Souten Kouro, best manga/anime dealing with the Three Kingdoms.
>anime
>not manga
OP, stop being pleb.
>>45415
some historical manga were turned into anime
not all tho, a pity
Is Makiba no Shoujo Katori accurate? Is it good?
Fate/Stay Night :^)
>>45127
>Does this mean we can talk about UC Gundam?
Of course, Gihren is literal Hitler anway, I can't put my finger on why, but UC Gundam seems to be one of the best fits for /his/, war, philosphy, politics, what morr do you need?
LOGH for philosophy and politics.
>>45822
You forgot the most important fact, Yang Wenli is a /his/torian, piss poor so had to do his history studying in a military academy, also Yang is pretty much /his/ incarnate
Vinland Saga
When it's not depicting a fight, it's surprisingly historically accurate. Not perfectly so, but leagues ahead of any other "viking" comic or show I've seen. One particular thing it sets down from the beginning is that the vikings were not one big nation or group pillaging Europe, immediately showing the "in-fighting" amongst various bands and countries.
When it does get fantastical, it draws from actual Norse lore and sagas about warriors that might have existed, one of which being Thorkell the Tall.
Arslan Senki
>>46428
Oh, should say what it's about;
Thorfinn, son of a Jomsviking named Thors who faked his own death to live life as a pacifist, is out for revenge against Askeladd, leader of the mercenary band who assassinated him. Thorfinn joins Askeladd's band and regularly fights in battles and raids so that he can be rewarded in one-on-one fights against Askeladd himself in hopes that he can kill him honourably.
The first major arch of the series is set during King Swyen's invasion of England (early 11th century) and has the mercenary band embroiled in the pollitics surrounding the succession of the throne.
Without spoiling it, the story continues past where most revenge stories would end. The whole series explores the concept of pacifism, with a particularly war-hardened culture behind it. The second big arch is much slower though and moves from a battlefield to a farm, which throws a lot of people. It's current arch picks up the pace.
It's fucking gorgeous, the writing is reflective and outright poetic, and it's great at putting you in the shoes of the time period.
Galaxy Express 999 is both old enough to be considered history and deals with a lot of social issues.
GRIFFITH DID NOTHING WRONG
btw Adolf was mentioned but not Buddha or Phoenix, why?
>>49176
>>43594
>/his/ anime
maybe when the Drifters anime comes out...
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>the history of anime
>anime was shit
>then it was good
>then it was threatened to be shit again
>repeat this for several decades, except KyoAni manages to save it every time
>>43594
Will anime save /his/ from /pol/?
4chan was founded as a Japanese Culture and Anime website.
4chan created boards separated by topics.
There is a board dedicated to the discussion of anime
This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc.
Anime is not history and other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages,etc.
So I think it doesn't stand to reason that we have this thread
>>50632
this
>>45495
Seconding Rose of Versailles. I love the French Revolution and it's so pretty.
>>45822
LOGH is fun. It's like if Thomas Carlyle wrote science-fiction. The anime tropes are kept relatively low and lots of /his/ related thought was clearly put into the whole thing.
>>43594
OP have you seen the movie "Flesh + Blood?" It was directed by Paul Verhoeven before he became huge in America for making Robocop and Total Recall and was almost certainly a big inspiration for Berserk. It's got Rutger Hauer in it and does a very good job of portraying medieval life and warfare.
>>43594
The history of anime, sure. Animation of all kinds is an interesting topic.
>>44551
So, /his/?
>>45133
Oh god, please don't tell me they have anime Anne Frank.
>>50968
Man it really bummed me out that that movie went for the more realistic side of Medeival life. I thought going into it that it would be a fun story about a bunch of mercenaries, but they're all really shitty people by the end. Which is fine, no complaints about the story, it just wasn't what I thought it would be
>>45822
>"Here I am. Kill your Emperor, if you wish."
>>43594
LEGEND OF GALATIC HEROES
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good shit
>>46681
The original novels are by the same guy who Wrote LEgend of the Galactic Heroes. Dude was a history professor
>>50813
If it helps, consider this thread as world history seen through the lens of Japanese media.
>>44341
Hetalia is if Tumblr took over /int/
>>52234
>Sage
Boy howdy that's definitely history.
>>52234
i dunno
at this point wouldnt tumblr look down on it for fetishising homosexuals from a straight person's perspective
>>51438
not anime precisely but Ari Folman (Waltz with Bashir's director) is making a movie about Anne Frank
they're gonna use this weird technique where they first film stop-motion dolls, then rotoscope it all and overimpose 2D animation on the 3D settings. that or it'll be like Coraline, didn't get it well
>>51005
>The history of anime
once upon a time, Windsor McCay
then David Fleischer and Walt Disney
>>49088
Leiji Matsumoto is the man and Space Battleship Yamato was arguably the forerunner for Mobile Suit Gundam. His influence on anime is huge, not to mention that the stuff he made is arguably GOAT.
>>52471
That's pretty interesting. I liked what he did with Waltz With Bashir and it's nice to hear that he's still experimenting with new styles. Hopefully his next movie will get a fairly big release so it's not too hard to see it.
Barefoot Gen and The Eternal Zero are two different mangas that depict WW2 Japan. I love how there's no "good side" on the former, and its message is to show the consequences of war. It also had to deal with censorship and whatnot, so it's pretty interesting overall.
>>43594
This season, Young Black Jack's doing pretty well on the "historical anime" list, what with all the medical history and the Vietnam war as a backdrop.
>>43831
I'd like to point out Classic Rock is 70-80's.
It depends on the age of what you're discussing to determine classic.
>>50662
>implying it won't do the opposite
>>52234
Hetalia trivializes the atrocities committed by the Axis. There's nothing tumblr about it.
Angel Cop, make sure to get the real subs, not the official ones.
>>43594
Would Kenshin Himura be good for that?
Legend of Koizumi
Is there any decent anime or manga based on Egyptian or Roman history? I have a strange draw to both historical backgrounds and I don't think I've seen anything note worthy.
Here's some chuuni bullying for your troubles, senpai.
>>54717
Prince of Egypt
>>54753
faggot
>>54717
Thermae Romae
>>53658
motherfucking Rurouni Kenshin
>If the truth could be discovered through fighting one or two battles, then we'd all be going through life without ever being wrong. A person's life isn't so simple a matter that it isn't. The true answer is something you find out yourself by how you live your life from this day onward that it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAnLjbAY2Q
Kingdom is pretty entertaining.
/his/ should give it a try
>>46985
Farmland is GOAT
OP here. Our list so far is as follows :
Vagabond
Grave of the Fireflies
Vinland Saga
Ikkitousen
Adolf
Bokko
Junketsu no Maria
Ravages of Time
Koihime Musou
Otoyomegatari
Kutsuzure Sensen - Witch Vasenka's War
Historie
Ad Astra : Scipio and Hannibal
The Wind Rises
UC Gundam
Souten Kouro
Makiba no Shoujo Katori
Fate/X
Arslan Senki
Galaxy Express 999
Drifters
Rose of Versailes
Legend of Galactic Heroes
Flesh + Blood
Adolf
The Eternal Zero
Barefoot Gen
Young Blackjack (?)
Angel Cop
Legend of Koizumi
Thermae Romae
>>56224
>no Kingdom
Green Blood is alright. It's one of the few manga series set in the old west.
