How the fuck did they do it?
No seriously, how did they pull it off? I understand that the entire country had been basically blown to shit, but even then how did the guys in charge manage to completely rewrite history and do everything they did, turning 1953 into Oceania's Year Zero? It really is quite a feat in this modern age.
>>419257
alliances with china and russian desu senpai
>>419281
That doesn't really explain how they managed to brainwash 25 million people into believing the father is the eternal leader even in death and that his son was born under a double rainbow. Also that they can blow up tanks by punching them.
>>419290
implying majority of people are brainwashed.
most are repressed by the military, thats why many try to escape every year.
dont get me wrong I'm sure a very large portion are indoctrinated to a point nearing brainwashing but it would be nearly impossible to fully achieve this across an entire population.
>>419290
When you think about how many Chinese troops fought and died to make North Korea it's not surprising.
I don't think you realise how big the Chinese were. We were basically at war with the Chinese using Korea as the battleground.
The guys in charge always re-write history. If you don't think so look at your high school history book. If you don't find anything objectionable you're not a historian.
>>419290
>implying the people actually believe this
who's brainwashed now by the media now?
But seriously these people are probably willing to say and/or believe anything if it gets them more food and supplies. There have been several recent hidden camera escapades which show how people act when westerners and gov officials aren't around and it's not exactly 24/7 kim jong worshipping. They showed footage of a secret basement where someone had a smuggled DVD player and a smuggled copy of 007: Skyfall, which people watched even under threat of death
>>419359
Apparently a large chunk of people really believe the governments lies, but that's mostly a testament to how isolated they are. It's getting less powerful every year, though.
>>419353
I've read / heard from a lot of people who've made it out of North Korea. According to them the 'brainwashing' is quite real, and people really believe a lot of the state's propaganda because they've been fed it 24/7 since birth and don't hear anything that contradicts it.
>>419519
I live in South Korea, and people here believe a lot of ridiculous things about their country due to propaganda, despite having easy access to the internet, etc. Koreans seem really really gullible by nature.
>>420905
How did the fan death thing get started? Do you know?
>>419290
>le north korea 1984 meme
Repressed yes, brainwashed just a (kinda large) minority.
>>419359
Got any links?
i saw a vice report that had some hidden camera scenes but they were meh.
>>419257
Page 10 save rave because NK is intrinsically interesting.
>>419257
I'll do a better write up tomorrow but, quicky answer:
First, North Korea has a lot more continuity with Korean history, including the Japanese Occupation then South Korea. They built on what came before.
Second, the absurd adulation of the Kim Dynasty is the result of political competition between different factions, that started in the 60s and got stupid in the 70s.
When you have people doing shit like hiring a team of chefs to inspect each individual grain of rice the Kim's eat, it's because they in turn are trying to outdo their rivals who are trying to rewrite all the folk songs to be about Kim Il-Sung.
The problem is that there is some degree of political pluralty in North Korea, and Kim worship is their method of politicking.
>>419257
It seems to me like most of the willing obedience to the government isn't due to indoctrination, but optimism. From what I've heard from how North Koreans see the nation, they do love and have pride in North Korea, and they do think that the Kim family as a whole can do good things for it, but only because of how supposedly prosperously they used to run it, and up to now it's just a very bitter hope which keeps people clinging to the government, believing that that sort of prosperity can return after how much they've inflicted by now.
>>419257
To be fair, due to the lack of information getting out, we have no idea if the majority of North Koreans even believe this shit. They might just be really good at making it look like they do to stay out of a labor camp.
It's been a gradual process. 1953 wasn't year zero in 1953, it was just 1953, and North Korea was just a little socialist republic like any others. Hell, the money that the USSR threw at them made North Korea more developed than South Korea for a time. Kim il-Sung was a bit of a crazy, but the real crazy came from Kim Jong-il.
>>423753
Ironic considering how it was never much good in the first place. Guess all the people who remember that are dead now, though.
>>419355
What are some off the top of your head examples of widely believed bull shit?
>>420916
its falling apart now that china doesn't want to deal with them
>>419290
I don't think you are giving the DPRK's grievances with America and it's allies enough respect. It was foreneighers that ruined their once proud nation and the DPRK saw the USA as the same foreign invaders under a different flag. They see the global economic system merely as a means of powerful nations to exploit the weak. They see themselves as David staring down Goliath. Frankly, they aren't wrong.
That said, they have to ouright lie to their people just to keep them in line and to cover up the utter hypocrisy of the upper echelons of the DPRK living in luxury as the rest of the country eats shoes.
>>426145
armenian genocide was pushed into the curriculum by an armenian governor of california George Deukmejian. But the simple fact that US school curriculum is 70% focused on the US when we have a tiny history is proof of a state agenda in school curriculums.
>>420956
This one was pretty good.
At least I /think/ it was this one.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secret-state-of-north-korea/
