>yfw Greek was spoken in 5000 BC
>>356385
No. That's older than Proto-Indo-European itself.
>>356385
Old Europe > S*mer
>>356385
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%83rt%C4%83ria_tablets
>>356385
ITS 2017 PEOPLE CMON
>>356385
This is from Romania, dip
>>356391
PROTOINDOEUROPEAN IS A LANGUAGE —AND A SOLELY THEORETICAL ONE—; WHAT IS DEPICTED IN THE IMAGE IS A SCRIPT, SO GREEK MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN IN THE SIXTH CENTURY B C E , THE PHOENICIAN/GREEK ALPHABET MAY BE RELATED TO THE "VINCA SCRIPT".
>>356475
DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION DETERMINES A LANGUAGE, OR A SCRIPT? IF SO, YOU MUST BELIEVE THAT THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF ENGLAND, AND THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF UNITEDSTATES, ARE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
>>356524
>"... THE PHOENICIAN/GREEK ALPHABET MAY BE RELATED TO THE 'VINCA SCRIPT'."
I MEAN: "... BUT THE PHOENICIAN/GREEK ALPHABET MAY BE RELATED TO THE 'VINCA SCRIPT'."
>>356475
Romania wasn't always a communist shithole, dip
that's protogreek isn't it?
>>356582
No, it's Linear B.
>>356385
how would you even know which way it's supposed to be read
>>356524
DEFINE "LOCATION"
>>356524
you're the best man
KEEP IT UP
>>356385
More proof that you can translate anything into anything.
>>356385
Looks more like the origin of memes, senpai.
>>356385
Is this real?
>>356817
holy fuck
time travelers from the year 200,000 are still using loss
>>356385
I don't think this "amulet" has Linear B written on it.
>>356385
wouldn't it be nice if you knew everything you ever wanted to know?
>>357112
A shit fight between incompetent archaeologists.
Jiahu is still older.
>>356385
>Linear B
>5000 BC
Eh? Pretty sure Linear A was that far back, and that it was the Mycenian culture that used Linear B.
>>356385
Your interpretation of the numeral system is more than doubtful, since you consider the writing to be clockwise.
>>357946
No, Linear A was like from 2000 bc at best from wat I remeber
>>356720
>trips blowing trips
Scum, the lot of you.
>>356385
I hardly believe that proto-indoeuropeans had any notion of nous
1. Find somewhat similar signs
2. Order them in such way that it looks real now
3. ???????
4. PROFIT!
You can do this to any script, you fucking faggot.
sage
>>358571
Chill out. Some signs in there obviously are the same, and the differences between the standard, accept Linear B characters and what actually shows up on tablets is not greater than what we witness here.
>>356385
makes me think when I'm trying to decipher japanese kanjis on my hentais
I like how some of the shit trips and names have migrated here from /lit/.
(aside from you Tallis, we've had some good banter in the 'rules of /lit/' threads)
>>358503
Why wouldn't they?
>>362709
BECAUSE PERSONS, AND PEOPLES, WHO MAY HAVE ORIGINALLY —RATHER THAN DERIVATIVELY, LIKE TURANIANS, AND NONAGRARIAN PEOPLES IN GENERAL— SPOKEN PROTOINDOEUROPEAN, WERE NOT CONSCIOUS; THEY WERE SELFAWARE, AS EVIDENCED BY THEIR INVENTION OF THEIR EQUIVALENT OF THE VERB "TO BE", WHICH INDICATES THAT THEY HAD AN AWARENESS OF THEIR BEING, AND THEIR EXISTENCE AS BEINGS, BUT THEY WERE NOT CAPABLE OF CONCEPTUALIZATION; NONCONSCIOUS PERSONS ARE LINGUISTICALLY CAPABLE, AT MOST, OF DESCRIPTION.
>>363062
you're a fucking retard.
>>364874
Oh yeah? how so? How is he a retard?
>>356385
Oh hey, someone's trying to feed their ego again. How surprising.
>>364886
>tripfag
>all caps
>Julian Jaynes
He's objectively wrong because of agreeing with Jaynes though, just autistic for the first two things.
>>364909
I used to loathe people like you, but now I both, loath, and pity you.
>>365069
>All his opinions are absolute trash
Not really, almost always quite the contrary.
>>365080
Because you don't know what the fuck we're even talking about.
He's comparing Turanian who were nomads, with vinca people who were sedentary and practiced agriculture and their language had nothing to do with theirs.
>>365096
Read his fucking post again, matey.
>>365122
That's what you should do.
>>365185
He's not comparing turanians with "vinca people".
First, there was no "vinca people" as such. "Vinca" is just the name for a cluster of populations sharing cultural practices and a script. Calling them "a people" because of that is equivalent to calling the chinese, and the japanese "a people" because they share a similar script, and similar cultural practices.
Second, what he's saying is that turanians, and other non-agrarian peoples spoke PIE at some point but learned it from the original PIE speaker who were agrarian.
>>356731
Underrated post, everybody fucking read it
>>365170
Capslock guy has been posting this way on /lit/ for fuckin years under various tripcodes and names. You aren't gonna stop him from typing like a freak.
Whole reason he's appeared here is because everyone on /lit/ knows to ignore him by now. Just filter him.
>>356475
There's some archaeological evidence from tools and other culture-artifacts to suggest that the earliest human migration wave to Greece (or the significant amount to populate it) started / can be traced first from Ukraine, that migrated downwards.
>>363062
>THEY WERE SELFAWARE, AS EVIDENCED BY THEIR INVENTION OF THEIR EQUIVALENT OF THE VERB "TO BE"
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet, never thought of that!!! you learn stuff in 4chan, not even kidding. Are you a linguist?
