Find a flaw
>>355402
its success was based on feudalism and exploitation
>>355402
1204
>>355402
It ended.
>>355407
>Venetian Republic and its holdings
>feudal
I'll give you Crete, but metropolitan Venice and the stato da tera and the rest of the stato da mar were certainly not feudal
>>355402
>>355420
>Venetians
>>355402
>republics
>merchants
Eeeww
>>355476
Why are you posting a gif of the Genoese?
>>355402
the flag
>>355402
Contributed to the decline of the Byzantine Empire.
Sacked Constantinople instead of removing kebab.
>>357952
At least they didn't actively bring kebab into europe.
>>355402
seajews
Absolutely nothing. If Venice isn't your favourite pre-unification Italian state you simply are wrong.
I'm a filthy southener and I admit this. Fuck the Borbone.
>>355402
didn't unify Italy four centuries before the Savoy
>>355402
I can't.
Venice was based through and through. Venice is literally a patrician city with patrician forms of government. Venice is also a sufficient refutation of Marxist historiography so that's a definite plus.
Perhaps the only downside is the extensive slave trade at a time when it had been virtually abolished in large part of Yurop. But to Venetians defense, it was an hard task not to take Circassian women as slave-concubines.
Anyone read pic related, is it worth picking up?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/City-Fortune-Venice-Naval-Empire-y/dp/0571245951/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449333429&sr=1-1&keywords=city+of+fortune
>>355464
Actually due to the policy of dedizione, you could in many ways say that the state was feudal, since dominated cities were pretty much self governing with their own council and nobility, although they had a venetian podestà to keep them in check.
>>358660
>extensive slave trade
Really? But venetians didn't employ slaves in the workforce, even the galleys were manned by prisoners rather than slaves afaik. Are you referring just to brothels? That hardly warrants "extensive".
>>359613
You don't need to use slaves to sell them
>>359636
Oh you meant it that way.
Yeah they probably dealt large volumes as a pure trade good. After all half their networks was with muslims and they were big time slavists, in a time when coin was mostly only used for a merchant's final transaction and everything in between was bartered.
>republic
>strongest Italian city-state
>maintained independence of HRE
>counterpart to treaterous Milano
>colonizing Mediterranean
>fighting Ottomans
There is none
>>358660
What? I thought Venice had abolished slavery and slave-trading sometime in the 800s.
>>359924
their canals smelled like shit
>>355402
>Find a flaw
Hilariously corrupt nobility.
Lacking integration of mainland territories.
Chose to pursue diplomatic isolationism rather than risk being on the losing side of an european war, meaning it found itself diplomatically isolated against the ottos and irrelevant in European politics.
That said I'm a venetiaboo:
SALVE INVICTA JUDITHA FORMOSA
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>>359947
Name one medieval city that didn't smell like shit
>>359945
Only christian slaves, venetian brothels pretty run on balkan muslim women.
>>359947
That's a meme, Venice didn't smell like shit, it smelt like a dirty harbour. Which is still bad, but noticeably different, and the same as any coastal city's harbour.
>>359947
They also swept the shit out of the city, making it one of cleanest cities of medieval and early modern Europe
>>355402
I dunno, the 4th Crusade maybe?
>>355420
It's fucking criminal that a country with a flag this based was allowed to perish.
How can one man be so based?
