People think because you draw a line in one place instead of another, that no line exists--or oftentimes we assume it. The tricky thing with race is figuring out where to draw the lines, for both political and practical reasons. Genetic similarity or dissimilarity overall, tends to be best predicted by the region someone resides, and that tends to be true everywhere.
[S]ocial construction talk is often applied not only to worldly items – things, kinds and facts – but to our beliefs about them. Consider Helene Moussa’s The Social Construction of Women Refugees (1992). Clearly, the intent is not to insist on the obvious fact that certain women come to be refugees as a consequence of social events. Rather, the idea is to expose the way in which a particular belief has been shaped by social forces: the belief that there is a particular kind of person – the woman refugee – deserving of being singled out for special attention. Talk of the social construction of belief, however, requires some elaboration of the core idea. For it is simply trivially true of any belief that we have that it is not necessary that we should have had it and that we might not have had it had we been different from the way we actually are. Consider our belief that dinosaurs once roamed the earth. It is obviously not inevitable that we should have come to this belief. We might never have considered the question. Having considered it, we might have arrived at a different conclusion, for a variety of causes: we might not have been interested in the truth; we might not have been as intelligent at figuring it out; we might never have stumbled across the relevant evidence (the fossil record).
It is crucial, therefore, to distinguish between a constructionist claim that’s directed at things and facts, on the one hand, and one that’s directed at beliefs on the other, for they are distinct sorts of claim and require distinct forms of vindication. The first amounts to the metaphysical claim that something is real but of our own creation; the second to the epistemic claim that the correct explanation for why we have some particular belief has to do with the role that that belief plays in our social lives, and not exclusively with the evidence adduced in its favor.
"Race is a social construct" is true in the metaphysical sense, i.e. the concept is of our own creation. But the concept of race is consistent with reality to a degree such that "race is a social construct" is false in the epistemic sense; the qualities by which we distinguish the races still exist even without an observer.
For the sophist, there is an incentive to obscure the distinction between the epistemic and the metaphysical "social construct" proposition, though often the people who make such a claim about race are unaware of the distinction themselves.
>>332856 It's the liberal condition of being materialist, cynical and seeking emancipation from all spirits, norms and eventually your humanity. Everyone who does not subscribe to this path is possessed by some malicious external ideology and propaganda with religion being the classic example. Thus "it's a social construct" becomes some kind of argument.
>>334874 >>335004 Race is a social construct, in the sense that there are very few things within the biological makeup of a certain racial category that can be proven to induce certain behaviors.
In other words, the reason Jamal shoots the Crips if he is a member of the Bloods, isn't because he's black. It's clearly because he was raised in a shitty environment that made it impossible for him to succeed in the world apart from becoming a gangster and gaining respect that way.
>>332963 Most of these social constructs have existed from before we were aware, and draw very much upon the bestial aspects of ourselves. They're far more natural than the stuff being used to replace them.
Something being a social structure doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It means it DOES exist, but is a byproduct of society rather than existing in a natural way.
Law is a social construct. Does that mean it doesn't exist? No. It just means that it's dependent on societal and cultural norms and can exist differently depending on time and place. Law in ancient Greece is different from law in the Soviet Union, for example, but in both instances they're both equally valid.
Literally anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of sociology can tell you that social constructs ARE reality.
>>336684 >quite odd the wratislav doesn't go about shooting ivan when they live in just as bad enviroment and with just as shitty prospects
Well Wratislav doesn't shoot Ivan, but Slavs in general don't really eschew violence.
Have you even been to Eastern Europe or Russia? I'm guessing no.
As for the source you provided, that may all be true, but the interesting corollary would then be why most black or swarthy people are non-violent then.
The percentage might be higher among them, which can be accounted for through some psych-bullshit, but the point I'm trying to make is good luck trying to demonstrate any genetic component to that, because it's almost certainly going to be a correlation does not equal causation fallacy.
>>332990 Things not being natural justifies scrutinizing and tinkering with them. Lightbulbs and TVs have been continuously improved since their advent, and many unnatural things have been scrapped altogether when preferable alternatives became available.
The idea is that the thing being called a social construct should be subject to the same scrutiny, improvement, and occasional discarding that all human inventions are subject to. And sometimes to recognize that people making arguments from nature have a stake in exempting something from scrutiny.
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