>look at front page
>no /christian/ thread
Therefore, /christian/ thread.
>ITT: We discuss why Protestantism is a shit - tier heresy
>pay cast to get into heaven faster
Yeah, your sect is awesome, bro
>>30143
was the crusades a good idea ?
>>30174
>Implying Catholicism is the only non-Protestant sect of Christianity
'Murika pls
>>30143
Well, it was invented by Satan, to start.
>>30186
Eventually caused the end of that insistent Greek romebooism, so yes.
>>30212
Henry the 8th was Satan?
>>30212
Gnostics pls go
>>30287
>Henry the 8th started Protestantism
>>30269
>Greek Romebooism
>Implying the Romans weren't literally Greeks in the beginning
Christianity is a Greek religion, not a Roman one. Make dealing's.
>>30330
delete this
>>30143
because it came from catholicism which is satanism at it's core.
>>30174
there's literally an Orthodox icon in the OP...
>>30174
>he thinks this is what indulgences are for
>>30979
Paying to get out of purgatory and into heaven faster after you die?
>>30979
Augustine pls. Indulgences are the most bat-shit insane heresy every, even the Protestants couldn't cook that one up.
>>30143
Posted on /christian/ but not much response yet:
Is Christianity compatible with many worlds theory?
According to my understanding of the many worlds theory, if I take any action in this universe, then there are universes which exist where I did not take that action or took some opposing action.
So if I repent and accept grace in this universe and am justified on account of that choice, then shouldn't all humans be justified, because there exists a universe for each of them wherein they repented?
As far as I can tell, predestination is the only doctrine which escapes this because it recognizes God's just judgment no matter the circumstances or choices which a person has made.
>>30143
Fuck off / pol /
>>32131
Your post is flawed because it assumes the existence of many worlds. If that theory were correct, there would also have to be infinite versions of God, scenarios where Satan conquered, etc.
>>32204
>there would also have to be infinite versions of God
Why? It only applies to contingent things.
Also, of course I assumed it exists, since the question is whether Christianity is compatible with it if it was the reality.
>>32204
>scenarios where Satan conquered
Also, this isn't really possible. Satan simply could not have won, since all things (and therefore all other universes) must be sustained in Him.
I was acquainted with an Episcopalian recently. He was the assistant of a Priest, and has ambitions to reach Bishop status.
He often translates ancient religious texts for fun, and came upon an interesting fact about ancient Christianity.
To quote him, "From what I can tell, the ancient undivided church seemed to be actually a mixture, in practise and doctrine, between the modern Anglicans, the Christian Universalists, the Catholics, and the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox. No one group had doctrinal dominance, except in certain regions. They all held to the same core tenets, but either they were explained different ways, or the non-core tenets were more open to interpretation, and even the ancient Fathers held completely different stances on some things without getting heresy accusations thrown at them.
"For example, St. Augustine, St. Gregory and St. Clement held three completely different stances on salvation and original sin, but none of them called each other heretics or apostates, as they all held to the same core tenets. They acknowledged that whatever they taught on non-core matters was entirely theory, and not the sole official teaching of the church- as the church at that time only held to the Creeds as the benchmark of orthodoxy.
"It was more or less- believe as you will, but don't step outside the boundaries set by the Creeds and the first 4 Councils. (Or 3, in the case of the Oriental Orthodox.)"
>TL,DR: Christians were a lot more open-ended back in the day.
>>30143
Nontrinitarian > Trinitarian
>>32423
>>30143
Protestantism ruined history
>>32565
>>32623
>>32759
I love you Anon.
>>32759
>>32829
I hate Art History memes on FB
>>30143
Why do Christians hate Protestantism so much, yet they generally think Orthodoxy is bro-tier? Can someone explain?
>>32906
>>32829
well meme'd, but seriously, Protestantism is shit.
The only good thing that Protestantism did was, inderectly, the Peace of Westphalia
>>32924
Roman inferiority complex.
>>33005
The Reformation's greatest accomplishment was liberating the Northern people from Roman cultural hegemony.
I have to go now but I'll be back to continue schooling you later.
>>32924
Because Orthodoxy is basically the closest you can get to the Early Church without going full new-age.
>>33170
>fallacy of tradition
Why not just become a Pharisee?
>warned for posting POO
The fuck is this gay ass shit?
>>32924
Because we're just in schism with the Orthobros - they like to cling onto a few differences and act as if they are justified in continuing schism - but otherwise we both have Apostolic authority, celebrate the seven sacraments, and proclaim the same faith.
Proddies, on the other hand... where to begin. They all believe they are more intelligent and capable at interpreting Scripture than the thousands of years of theologians who went before them - and then when they disagree they just go found a new 'church'. They are completely historically illiterate. We could go on forever.
So long story even if the Orthobros shittalk the Catholics all the time (although I'm pretty sure most of these guys are proddy converts to Orthodoxy) - we Catholics love our eastern brothers and constantly pray for full communion.
It seems like Protestants are to Christianity pretty much what Trotskyists are to Marxism-Leninism, at least as seen by Stalinists, Maoists etc. Is this a good comparison?
>>32924
Well, for one thing Orthodox isnt very far off from Catholic, thats why they generally accept each other.
Prods on the other hand are fucking everywhere theologically, cause of their inherent sectarian disease (i dont agree with you ill go make my own church) they go and split up with minor disagreements and thats why instituted monstrosities like megachurches and mormonism exist.
The start of it all was the whole leaving the church thing. Many people who saw issues with the church before faught to reform it and did. What Luther did was just leave, making eay for the biggest catastrophe for ecumenicalism that has ever existed. It was bound to happen but that doesnt absolve it from its stupidity.
And im not even catholic or orthodox.
>>35044
>my theology is older and must be best!
>my medicine is older and must be best!
>my technology is older and must be best!
I really look forward to catholics actually attacking the theology of Marty instead of just sidestepping it like that. Some real discussion would be neato
>>35697
Continuity of teaching is a strong argument. Especially since it has stayed almost the same in two churches that have a lot of bad blood between each other.
It serves to prove that the faith in the form that was in early Christianity is still here.
As for arguing really there is an insane amount of reading of Catholic scholarship, I can recommend you some for further reading.
>>37418
Yeah, but isn't that discussion usually limited to Academic discussion, like Theological debates? I live in the Central Southeast, which has a heavily Baptist leaning.
>>35697
Fine.
If Scripture is the only valid source of Biblical Truth, how do we know which Books are we too know as True? Why do we worship on Sunday, when the Bible says worship is to be on Saturday?
>>37418
>That's why it was stopped and the practice condemned.
yeah, when protestants pointed it out
>>30186
Yes and we should start a new one as soon as possible to destroy ISIS
>>35044
>They all believe they are more intelligent and capable at interpreting Scripture than the thousands of years of theologians who went before them
Lel
>implying the Catholic Church actually followed what some of the early Church fathers said and instead didn't just cherry pick whatever worked politically
>Thinks a Pagan 400 years after Jesus had the best ideas about international conflict.
>>37656
If you learned your history you'd know there was massive opposition within the Church long before.
You know, Dante was just one of them.
>>37581
Yes since most of us don't devote our lives to exegesis we aren't fit to have an interpretation of authority.
>>37716
How many church fathers have you read? All were also neoplatonists and are mostly in line with Catholic/Orthodox teachings.
Catholic here. Can we of the apostolic churches put our differences aside and deal with the threat of this modern and decadent world?
There should be peace between Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox. Nestorians can come to despite their fucked up Christology.
>>30174
Luther hanged himself
Pro tip: ALL Christianity is a shit
Came here from /lit/, as shitty as that place here this is even worse.
>>38110
Is it bad I started thinking the Octodad theme with that name?
Octochaaaan! Nobody suspects a thing!
>>38110
I think it's more related to /pol/ Catholics who are often really stupid.
I'm a Catholic myself, but those guys can't seem to refrain from calling everything heresy. Even if it is it's not productive.
>>35697
Really? Sure np - refuting Marty is easy mode
Justification by faith alone (whoops alone isn't in the Bible - silly Marty added it in - that guy :^)
A solid reading of James in contrast to Romans 9-13 should do the job
Sola Scriptura? Where's that in the Bible? Oh right, nowhere. In fact who does the Bible say is the arbiter of truth?
"if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth."
The other Sola's? I'm still confused how you can have five 'alone's' - maybe you can help me with that
On the Bondage of the Will - mysides.jpg, God creates evil, wohoo, kill all the peasants!
"Hey guys, don't worry about authority of interpretation, naturally everyone with sincere faith is going to interpret scripture the same way"
I'll just cap it off with some awesome Luther quotes:
"Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides... No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day."
"Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes."
“Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: Whatever has He been doing with her? Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died.”
>>37563
>rather having tradition over theology that are contrary to scripture
kek
>as for arguing
I'm sure there are many books about it, that's not what I'm referring to here.
>>37645
We can have extra-biblical and traditions, as long as scripture has authority over it.
>Why do we worship on Sunday
Don't you worship every day? I will need a passage on the saturday-claim, I'm pretty sure you're referring to sabbath which is not the same as Lord's day.
I'm Roman Catholic and my [spoiler]gf[/spoiler] is Ortodox. We decided to marry after finishing university, but the problem is - we never spoke about in which rite we will marry. Is there anyone that knows what 'should' I do?
>>38788
Yeah, I disagree with loads of Marty's opinions outside of the book of Concord. Let's stick to the 'canon' of what defines Luther's protestantism
>sola fide is not in the bible!
Common misconception, sola scriptura is about how it is the only source of authority - not that anything extra-biblical is not allowed. Everything else, tradition, whatever you can think of is subordinate to the Bible, that is if they contrast with the word of God, then it should be discarded. Do you deny that the bible is true?
Ephesians 2:8–9:
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
>If I am delayed..
Yeah, the universal, christian church contains the truth, I agree wholeheartedly with that passage.
>>39115
Eastern Catholic church.
>>38883
Are you illiterate, retarded or what? Have you even read Augustine, Aquinas, Justin, Ratzinger or any other of the great Catholic theologians?
>>30186
It is neutral. Just a war to cut down the power of the Seljuk Turks using a religious justification.
>>39152
It's strange how Luther has become an equivalent of Augustine for protestants and an extra biblical source of tradition.
>>30143
Catholicism has the papal infallibility doctrine, which makes me laugh every time one Pope condemns a previous one. Also, transubstantiation is so hilarious. Don't know that much of Orthodox, though.
>>39234
>source of tradition
Yeah, within lutheranism anyhow. That's not imcompatible with sola scriptura though :^)
>>39263
Try googling for infallibility doctrine, it will help you know what you are talking about.
>>39263
Papal infallibility only means that the Pope is safeguarded from being incorrect in specific doctrinal circumstances, not that every Pope is an infallible, perfect one.
>>32131
Popsci mumbo jumbo claims yet another clueless victim. Many worlds interpeetation is a way to do away with quantum decoherence and collapse of the probability wavefunction upon observation. Shit like macroscopic events where any quantum effects is so localised that it wouldn't be observable even in principle would not be in anyway affected by the existence of other worlds. It literally doesn't imply that every possible scenario in history is realized.
call no man father - Jesus Christ
call no man rabbi - Jesus Christ
and what does everyone do?
>>32204
And would there be a universe where 3 lies between 1 and 2?
You're a fucking retard.
>>30174
>implying the church hasn't been reformed in hundreds of years
>implying a church led by fallible people is going to magically be perfect in every way possible
How was church today? What was the sermon about?
To all my catholic and protestant friends, how did your church handle all saints day?
>>39152
> sola scriptura is about how it is the only source of authority
Which, interestingly, is not in the Bible! Pull 2 Timothy 3:16 - I dare you
>Everything else, tradition, whatever you can think of is subordinate to the Bible
Got a biblical justification for that?
>that is if they contrast with the word of God, then it should be discarded
Yes, things in conflict with Jesus should be discarded, or baptized or what have you.
>Do you deny that the bible is true?
I deny that the Bible interprets itself... Also, true in what sense? Literally true everywhere? Ahhh no - I don't think the world was created less than ten thousand years ago..
> For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast
"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead"
Oh, my, who shall arbitrate this dispute for us?
>Yeah, the universal, christian church contains the truth, I agree wholeheartedly with that passage
I have yet to visit the invisible church - I know it was invented in the sixteenth century and that it had never been taught in Christianity - but I keep on hearing about this invisible church. Sounds cool. Is there a building anywhere nearby? So glad Jesus was pure spirit and didn't come in the flesh amirite :^)
But if you really, actually, agree with that passage then you should go confess to a priest and formally renounce your heresy and be a good Christian.
>>35163
his only power is Yehova's perfect justice and sinlessness which prevents him from doing anything to Satan which is not justified according to the covenants he has made with mankind. WE, as Adam, gave Satan his authority.
And Jesus is the only one who ever lived with the authority to strip the seals off the book and to look thereon. Behold! The Lamb! And with a flaming fire he will come, taking vengeance on those who know not God. That's why he will rule as King for ever and ever.
>>39516
how God rested on the first day no doubt.
Serious question, is there any legit historical evidence that supports the Papacy tradition?
I've been reading pic related, no evidence of a pope to be found.
>>37645
Saturday isn't a worship day, its a day to rest. Sunday became the day of worship because its the day Jesus rose from the dead.
The NT canon came about because the early Christian leaders had a strong tradition on which texts were reliable, and also based on the doctrine in said texts. FF Bruce is a good author on the subject
>>39646
The papacy has more pros than cons. At least it forces the catholic authorities to gather and talk about a common stance. Thanks to it Christianity managed to evolve theologically not stagnate and call it tradition when there are whole legions of priests devoted to research philosophy to further the understanding of the universe in relation to the bible.
>>39532
>Which, interestingly, is not in the bible!
Did you even read my post? The Bible is the only confirmed, true teachings which we accept as divinely inspired. Re-read my post and see how sola scriptura isn't just 'everything must be in the bible'
>Got a biblical justification for that?
Psalms 12:6: the words of the LORD are flawless
Psalms 119:89: Your word, O LORD, is eternal, it stands firm
Proverbs 30:5-6: Every word of God is flawless
The bible is the only confirmed source of authority that we got. Everything else might just aswell be false. So we should see the Bible as an authority over everything else, and anything which contrasts it is wrong.
>Literally true everywhere?
No, that has nothing to do with what I said.
>Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead
Yes, this means that works accompany true faith. Faith without works are dead, and works are a natural display of faith. That's what that passage means.
>Is there a building anywhere nearby?
Any christian church is part of God's universal church.
>>39646
Just read church fathers.
Matthew 23:3
do you care?
>>39832
Right now I'm reading Justin Martyr's first apology, which breaks down early Christianity fairly well. No pope in sight
>>39646
The role of the Bishop of Rome has evolved organically over two millennia, but the germ of the papacy is right from the beginning. "You are Peter"
The Patriarchates (the Bishop of Rome is Patriarch of the West) all began to get formally established once the persecutions finally end. Undoubtedly there were Patriarchs during the persecutions but the Church was underground.
The name itself 'Pope' means Father, and any Patriarch, or even a bishop, could use the title if they wished. I know the Alexandria Patriarchate uses Pope as his title. Was Pope Shenouda III, but I'm pretty sure he died.
Anyway there is tonnes written on the subject. Finding unbiased literature can be a real challenge.
that looks like a massive golden dildo
>>39825
>The Bible is the only confirmed, true teachings which we accept as divinely inspired
Your forgetting the fact that the finer aspects of the bible have no sense if you don't analyze them from the perspective of philosophy/theology.
>>39895
So it existed, but not nearly in a way that is continued by the Roman Catholic Church today?
>>39907
read Samuel, it's an philistine idol to "emerods" which they had around their secret parts. They captured the Ark of the Covenant you see, rather large error.
>>39945
and how is that incompatible with what I said?
>>40010
Because philosophy and theology are separate sciences that follow sources that are outside of the bible or even predate.
>>40068
So? The bible does not forbid using philosophy or theology. Of course we should use them.
>idolatry is totally OK, the pope says so!
How come Orthodox Christianity is the best?
>>40096
So to understand the "only true teachings" you reach for secondary sources? How is that "scripture only"
>>40096
if you can't even read the full chapter you shouldn't be using more advanced methods
acts 10 being the perfect example
>>40150
Sola scriptura is not that we can only accept the Bible alone as our source of learning and traditions, but that everything else is subordinate to the Bible.
I've already gone over this, what, 3 times now?
We should call these threads
Christ-gen - Christian general
>>30143
Protestantism is bad, but I feel like all the heresies that we put down are coming back to take revenge.
Predestination came back, Arianism came back, pelagianism came back and has even infected our church. I'm just waiting for gnostic heresies to come back as well.
Many of my fellow Catholics themselves are turning to heresy and saying it's okay. It worries me.
Is the Church of England Catholic or Protestant?
>>40249
Aren't they Anglican?
>>40249
It's absolutely Protestant
They're the worst traitors of all, the kind motivated by political power rather than religious conviction
>Christianity in the middle east will be extinct in your lifetime
How do we stop the Jews from toppling secular dictators?
>>39825
I don't mind going in circles really.
>The Bible is the only confirmed, true teachings which we accept as divinely inspired
On what authority?
>Psalms 12:6: the words of the LORD are flawless
Psalms 119:89: Your word, O LORD, is eternal, it stands firm
Proverbs 30:5-6: Every word of God is flawless
... yea none of those say anything about tradition or Apostolic authority being subordinate to the bible (also you're also throwing poetry and wisdom literature [which is talking about the Logos] at me - not a great foundation for doctrine - better off citing that we must dash the heads of infants against rocks)
> So we should see the Bible as an authority over everything else, and anything which contrasts it is wrong.
OK - are some parts more authoritative than others - because there are some serious contradictions in the texts - if yes does the bible provide the instructions for how to determine which is more authoritative?
I'll give you a tiny example: proddy heretic 'church' #1 says that gay is ok, and that scripture, properly understood, agrees with it
proddy heretic 'church' #2 believes that the bible is explicit in forbidding homosexual acts
who is right? both make arguments from scripture that they believe are clear and obvious
>No, that has nothing to do with what I said.
Well you phrased it in the vaguest possible way imaginable "is the Bible true - yes or no"
>Yes, this means that works accompany true faith. Faith without works are dead, and works are a natural display of faith.
That formula probably works for the Catholic Church - nihil obstat
>Any christian church is part of God's universal church
Woah, careful there heretic, remember it's: One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic - there are no 'churches' - Christ didn't pray for 30,000 denominations
>>40389
>Yes, but is Anglicanism Protestant or Catholic?
They fancy themselves "the best of both worlds" so to speak, but they're closer to Catholicism, going as far as inviting Catholic priests to give their sermons.
>>40477
Oh and they also consider themselves protestant but they certainly are not.
>>40033
That quote at the bottom is sick!
Got anymore of these?
>>40659
>but around the 3rd century and in the 4th the role of pope was established
So it wasn't established from Jesus onto Peter, like the Catholics claim?
>>40190
So essentially protestants are returning to the Catholic view?
I'm glad.
>>40703
It was, it just didn't form instantly. By that time you had something clearly formed, I didn't say it originated then.
If it was clearly formed then it means it was there a long time ago, something like the dogma of purgatory or immaculate conception.
Friendly reminder that every negative stereotype about Christianity comes from protestant swine.
>fat
>superiority complex
>MURRICA #1
>intolerant of others
>deny scientific fact
>think Jesus and God are their personal superhero team who intervene in everything from football bets to curing cancer
>keep money from poor
>>40703
Many contemporary elements of Christianity that were missing from it's early period are due to them evolving along with the deeper understanding of the bible. Not to mention Christianity had a long and shaky start so they couldn't really focus solely on the theological aspect then. You can't just claim that it doesn't count because it wasn't there from day one especially if it has a sound theological explanation backed by the bible.
>>40703
>>39956
>>40703
That's exactly how it was established in scripture and tradition. The tomb of St. Peter is under the high altar of St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
But to your point about the papacy as an institution not coming around until the 3rd or 4th centuries - I already answered this. The Church was under constant persecution from the first century until 313 with the Edict of Milan. So because the Church was illegal it obviously couldn't exercise any public ministry. There was, however, still a line of bishops in Rome going back to Peter and holding pre-eminence.
>>37667
jidf pls go
Anabaptism is best protestantism
>>41152
anal... baptism?
Christians are the real heretics.
bump for /his/ is a board dedicated to religion.
>>41204
Good try anon. You are close to understanding reading comprehension.
>>41355
Of course it is. The name itself implies it's /HIS/ board.
Can anyone give me a TL;DR of Christianity's stance on homosexuals and how they have been treating historically, preferably with some excerpts from holy texts or historical documents regarding homosexuals being stoned.
I was arguing with someone and I made a distinction between homosexuals and sodomites - he felt that it was largely semantic, but I didn't. They way I see it is that homosexuality itself was somewhat tolerated (don't ask, don't tell) as long as you didn't act out on your urges and commited sodomy, just like today we tolerate pedophiles as long as they don't commit child abuse. The act itself is the sin, not the sexuality of the person.
Am I wrong here?
>>41524
Read about sodom and gomorrah it literally god's stance on every form of deviancy.
>>41631
Those are fictional events (not the cities themselves, but it being sacked by angels and whatnot) so I care little for it. I'm more interested in how homosexuals have been treated historically - and again, let's make a distinction between people who are homosexuals and those who practice homosexuality through sodomy.
What I want to know is: did people look the other way as long as gays showed self-restraint and refused to commit sodomy? I don't doubt that people that were caught in the act were stoned to death or publically shamed, but what of those who were born homosexual but didn't commit sin?
>>41524
They treated it like the extremist Muslims do today:
>If you're pitching, you're still straight, but catching is gay as fuck
>if you're one of the upper classes, don't get caught
>if you're lower class, don't get suspected
In the last 100 or so years it's been more "love the sinner hate the sin" and then in the last 30 or so years culture wars have created a gay panic.
>>41524
>The act itself is the sin, not the sexuality of the person.
>Am I wrong here?
Nope. That's the teaching.
I'm not googling the texts but there is the prohibition in Leviticus (right up there with eating shellfish), but usually Christians cite St. Paul where he scathingly attacks homosexuality. Of course St. Paul was always pretty scathing when he was attacking something.
In terms of Church history sins of the flesh were always considered less important than sins of the spirit. Homosexuality was usually more strictly condemned, but still widely practiced, but like all illicit sexual activity, was kept under wraps. You wouldn't get into trouble unless you were public about it or attempted to say that the act is not a sin.
>>41631
Yes the crowd wanted to have anal sex with the angels, but that's not why Sodom was destroyed, it was destroyed because the people were fully corrupt. Sodomy being used as an illustration of how corrupt they were.
>>32423
HERETICS GET OUT! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/his/ is officially a Christian board, screencap this post
How would an Anglo go about converting to orthodoxy?
>>42219
I don't know, I'm a Catholic.
For Catholicism I'd say asking a nearby priest for advice.
>>42219
Is your google broken?
Make an appointment with a priest.
>>42219
Anglos have no soul so conversion has as much meaning for them as for animals.
>tfw raised catholic but can't reconcile anything that's not sola scriptura
>>42219
Nobody likes Anglo converts to Orthodoxy. Most of them are edgy milennial neets who are looking for an identity and like it because it's metal. Meanwhile the cradle Orthodox don't want them shitting up their ethnic club and going full aspergers by actually believing it all.
>>32150
>implying the most christian board is not /lit/
I'm not one, but I see well documented christian threads on /lit/ on a regular basis
>>42607
The priest of my local Orthodox church is an Anglo and it doesn't seem to bother the local Greeks at all.
>>42607
What if I told you I'm actually a white francophone?
>>32150
Poop off, leddit.
>>30143
Explain how the trinity makes sense when it violates the transitive property.
>>44747
God is God, He can exist anyway He wants. Deal with it.
>>44816
So the response is just "It's a mystery. I don't know"? Ok then.
>>44847
No, my response is
>God is God, He can exist anyway He wants. Deal with it.
"It's a mystery. I don't know" is just how you shittily choose to perceive it
God is an essence that our intellect simply can not fully understand.
>>30174
hmmm... I wonder who is behind this post.
>>44747
It's okay - I can use google for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUy-H5MmeGU
>>30174
He posted Christ Pantocrator with Greek writing. He's either Eastern Catholic, Orthodox, or a high Anglican. Not RC.
>>44941
If God can break basic laws about logic like the transitive property there is no point in discussing him.
Even if I gave you 100%, irrefutable proof that he has never, doesn't and will never exist. It wouldn't matter. Since he can break the transitive property just because he doesn't exist doesn't mean he doesn't exist. You could never prove or disprove anything about him since he has full license to be a paradox in any manner.
>>30143
This thread belongs in /pol/
>>41303
Judaism is not a legitimate religion anymore. Also you guys need to apologise for the Holohoax and muh six gorillion.
>>48734
Of course God can break the laws of logic that HE created. If He couldn't, then He wouldn't be God.
And it is impossible to discover the existence of God, or know His nature, unless of course He chooses to reveal it to us Himself.
>>32565
Religion ruined history.
>>32924
Protestants don't praise traditions.
Catholics praise traditions.
Orthodox LIVE for traditions.
>>30143
Who was the best christian sect and why was the
Nestorianism?
>>39424
I thought the whole point of having a pope is because he is appointed by God. if he allowed paying to get to heaven (obviously heretical) then is he not appointed by God?
>>46289
a) I am expected to believe the Church Fathers thought like this? They did not have the convenience of such argumentations
b) The comparison is faulty. The six sides of a cube are not each the whole cube. They add up to the cube, and each is a "face" of the cube, but each 'face" is not equal to another "face', as Christianity claims with its "Jesus IS God and God IS the holy spirit, but Jesus IS NOT the holy spirit". It claims that the faces themselves not only each equal the whole, but that they are also not separate from each other. That is not logical. You can believe it, but don't act like it makes any sense according to human logic.
>>50209
Le tipping of le fedora like a kind gentlesir!
>>40901
>Implying non-protestants aren't sinful.
No one can live a life free of sin; only Christ did that.
and this whole thread is a contradiction of James 4:12
http://earlychristianwritings.com/index.html
Just leaving this here for you guys :) The dates and info of the texts are a bit liberal so should be taken with a grain of salt, but the texts themselves are on point
>>41524
Jesus didn't speak about homosexuality specifically. He did say marriage was between a man and a woman and any form of lust outside of marriage is sinful.
>>50209
Without the Catholic Church there would be absolutely no knowledge of ancient Roman history. I think your fedora cut off the blood supply to your frontal lobe again.
>>52272
>Without the Catholic Church there would be absolutely no knowledge of ancient Roman history.
>absolutely no knowledge
There are other sources than the Catholics, not to mention that if there were no Catholics, there still would have been people (who in our timeline who did become Catholics) that weren't Catholic and did some recording.
Sure is 8ch up in this thread
Does christianity have any original ideas or have they all been stolen from other religions?
>>53099
Love thy enemy, pray for those who wrong you, and do good for those who oppress you.
I'd say that was a pretty original - and powerful - idea.
