>I will defend my flag to death
Tell me stories about national heroes.
There are no heroes in war, friend
>>265318
plenty of atheistic war heros are out there the fuck you are talking about.
>>265310
Maybe not a 'national' hero, but Norman Cyril Jackson has always seemed pretty ballsy to me:
>Jackson completed his tour of 30 missions on 24 April 1944, but, as he had flown one sortie with a different crew, he chose to fly once more so that he and his original aircrew could finish their tour together. Jackson's 31st mission was a raid on the German ball bearing factories at Schweinfurt on the night of 26–27 April.
>Having bombed the target, Jackson's Lancaster was attacked by a German night fighter and a fuel tank in the starboard wing caught fire. Jackson, already wounded from shell splinters, strapped on a parachute and equipped himself with a fire extinguisher before climbing out of the aircraft and onto the wing, whilst the aeroplane was flying at 140 miles per hour (230 km/h), in order to put out the fire. He gripped the air intake on the leading edge of the wing with one hand, and fought the fire with the other. The flames seared his hands, face, and clothes. The fighter returned and hit the bomber with a burst of gunfire that sent two bullets into his legs. The burst also swept him off the wing.
>He fell 20,000 feet , but his smouldering and holed parachute worked well enough to save his life. He suffered further injuries upon landing, including a broken ankle, but managed to crawl to a nearby German village the next morning, where he was paraded through the street.
>He spent 10 months recovering in hospital before being transferred to the Stalag IX-C prisoner of war camp. He made two escape attempts, the second of which was successful as he made contact with a unit of the US Third Army.
Smokey Smith:
As the right forward company was consolidating its objective it was suddenly counter-attacked by a troop of three Mark V Panther tanks supported by two self-propelled guns and about thirty infantry and the situation appeared hopeless.
Under heavy fire from the approaching enemy tanks, Private Smith, showing great initiative and inspiring leadership, led his P.I.A.T. Group of two men across an open field to a position from which the P.I.A.T. could best be employed. Leaving one man on the weapon, Private Smith crossed the road with a Private James Tennant and obtained another P.I.A.T. Almost immediately an enemy tank came down the road firing its machine-guns along the line of the ditches. Private Smith's comrade, Private Tennant was wounded. At a range thirty feet and having to expose himself to the full view of the enemy, Private Smith fired the P.I.A.T. and hit the tank, putting it out of action. Ten German infantry immediately jumped off the back of the tank and charged him with Schmeissers and grenades. Without hesitation Private Smith moved out on the road and with his Tommy gun at point-blank range, killed four Germans and drove the remainder back. Almost immediately another tank opened fire and more enemy infantry closed in on Smith's position. Obtaining some abandoned Tommy gun magazines from a ditch, he steadfastly held his position, protecting Private Tennant and fighting the enemy with his Tommy gun until they finally gave up and withdrew in disorder.
One tank and both self-propelled guns had been destroyed by this time, but yet another tank swept the area with fire from a longer range. Private Smith, still showing utter contempt for enemy fire, helped his wounded friend to cover and obtained medical aid for him behind a nearby building. He then returned to his position beside the road to await the possibility of a further enemy attack.
>>265314
Üntermensch detected.
>>265328
It was a cringey neckbeard statement only ancringey neckbeard from /r/atheism would make was my point
>>265310
This brave hero fought and defeated one of our occupying pigs, and has been kept as as POW in horrifying conditions because of it.
Support the struggle!
Thomas Plunket (died in 1851 or 1852) was an Irish soldier in the British army 95th Rifles regiment. He served throughout the Peninsular War and later in the Hundred Days campaign of 1815.
He is remembered for a feat at the Battle of Cacabelos during Moore's retreat to Corunna in 1809. Here Plunket shot the French Général de Brigade Auguste-Marie-François Colbert at a range of around 600 metres (2,000 ft) using a Baker rifle.
Plunket had run forward to make this shot. Before returning to his own lines he reloaded and shot down Colbert's aide-de-camp, Latour-Maubourg, who had rushed to the aid of the fallen general, which showed that the first shot had not been a fluke; the deaths were sufficient to throw the pending French attack into disarray. The shots were at a sufficiently long distance to impress others in the 95th Rifles, whose marksmanship (with the Baker rifle) was far better than the ordinary British soldiers who were armed with a Brown Bess musket and only trained to shoot into a body of men at 50 metres (160 ft) with volley fire.
>>265397
>becomes a traveling whiskey salesman after the war
I wonder if he just flashed the VC to get people to buy the whiskey.
>>265592
>those countless hours spent wrapped up in a blanket watching sharpe marathons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fy3tSim3to
>>265310
Ok OP
I dont remember the full story, but when i was younger I read a book about about the battle of vienna and the ottoman/Habsburgs war.
I remember a story of a serbian nobleman grabbing an ottoman general and throwing him and himself off a tower. There was also one where an austrian princess who blew up a castle filled with powder kegs when ottoman forces took it over.
Peter "Thundershield" Wessel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tordenskjold
![[DEUTSCHLAND EINIG VATERLAND intensiviert].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/46vXDLi.jpg "[DEUTSCHLAND EINIG VATERLAND intensiviert].jpg")
>>265310
Well, we Germans kinda lack national heroes, but we have for one Major Lützow and Georg Büchner (though nobody even knows them anymore these days), Stauffenberg of course, a bunch of other Resistance guys and of course the greatest man who ever layed foot on German ground.
>pic fucking related
>>265310
Metodija Patcev
Bulgarian-Macedonian revolutionary, him and his entire "cheta" (armed band) were ambushed by the Turks, they fought for 24 hours, 7 men vs 500 Turks, they were barricaded in a house, after they spent all their ammo, they committed suicide with their last bullet.
>>267181
Germany does not consider pic related a national hero?
>>269665
National hero =/= war hero
Also he is controversial today, because of post ww2 german kekery. He tried to undermine Socialists and Catholics.
>>269665
That's the guy in the stained glass window.
>>269669
>National hero =/= war hero
point taken.
>>265592
Dang it, its a shame that people only know of the 95th, when in fact the 60th (in particular 5th Battalion) had some of the most decorated men of the peninsula wars -and- were a green jacket/rifle regiment before the 95th
>>269665
How could anyone consider a fucking fat ass as their national hero?
>>265840
Dis nigga knows what's up
>>265310
National heroes ar gay and so is nationalism
>>267181
What about people like Von Richthofen?
>>270017
>ching chong Kalashnikov
>wields a MP40
wot
>>265592
>fighting for the British Army
>fighting against nationalists who wanted a free Ireland
>national hero
Not even close baka senpai
>>270523
/thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4
>War Heroes Thread
>No post on William Marshal
What the fuck /his/.
>>267181
Thus man comes to mind.
Léon Degrelle
Peter Willemoes
A young danish officer aged 17.
Battle of Copenhagen 1801
Continued defending his block-ship when men were about to flee.
He took a canonball to the head in 1808 but became a national hero for his actions
>>269665
mostly not.
>>267181
I would go as far and say that Göthe is a national hero, since he was not only a writer, artist and scholar, but also a scientist, made significant contributions to geology, travelled the world, helped the German understanding of the "orient" through the west-östlicher Diwan and challenged society through his involvement in Sturm und Drang.
![20140720160051_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WUfCSQG.jpg "20140720160051_500[1].jpg")
>>265310
lel get wrecked, spaniardo
(aljubarrota's baker as (s)he became known by bludgeoning to death 7 sorry spaniards that took hide in his bakery after routing from battle - which they also lost despite having an invading force of 31000 men against 6500 portuguese soldiers)
>>275781
This
>>267181
order based ideology nations avoid heroes the best they can.
and once a man rises from the ranks it's usually to fuck up everything around him, instigate his people into destroying others and then proceed to destroy themselves
this is how germany works even before it was called germany
>Michel Ney popularly known as Marshal Ney, was a French soldier and military commander during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. He was one of the original 18 Marshals of the Empire created by Napoleon.
>Ney was given command of III Corps of La Grande Armée during the 1812 invasion of Russia. During the retreat from Moscow, Ney commanded the rear guard (and was anecdotally known as "the last Frenchman on Russian soil" because of it). After being cut off from the main army, Ney managed to rejoin it, which delighted Napoleon.[4] For this action Ney was given the nickname "the bravest of the brave" by Napoleon.
>On 25 March 1813, Ney was given the title of Prince de la Moskowa.
>Ney became the spokesperson for the Marshals' revolt on 4 April 1814, demanding Napoleon's abdication. Ney informed Napoleon that the army would not march on Paris; Napoleon responded "the army will obey me!" to which Ney answered, "the army will obey its chiefs".
>When Paris fell and the Bourbons reclaimed the throne, Ney, who had pressured Napoleon to accept his first abdication and exile, was promoted, lauded, and made a peer by the newly enthroned Louis XVIII. Although Ney had pledged his allegiance to the restored monarchy, the Bourbon court looked down on him because he was a commoner by birth.
>When he heard of Napoleon's return to France, Ney, determined to keep France at peace and to show his loyalty to Louis XVIII, organized a force to stop Napoleon's march on Paris. Despite Ney’s promise to the King, he joined Napoleon at Auxerre on 18 March 1815.
>At Waterloo Ney again commanded the left wing of the army. During the battle he had five horses killed under him;[12] and at the end of the day, Ney led one of the last infantry charges, shouting to his men: "Come see how a marshal of France dies!".[13] It was as though Ney was seeking death, but death did not want him, as many observers reported.
>>278214
>When Napoleon was defeated, dethroned, and exiled for the second time in the summer of 1815, Ney was arrested (on 3 August 1815). After a court-martial declared itself incompetent (November), he was tried (4 December 1815) for treason by the Chamber of Peers. In order to save Ney's life, his lawyer Dupin declared that Ney was now Prussian and could not be judged by a French court as Ney's hometown of Sarrelouis had been annexed by Prussia according to the Treaty of Paris of 1815. Ney ruined his lawyer's effort by interrupting him and stating: "I am French and I will remain French".[16] On 6 December 1815, he was condemned, and executed by firing squad in Paris near the Luxembourg Garden on 7 December 1815, an event that deeply divided the French public. He refused to wear a blindfold and was allowed the right to give the order to fire: "Soldiers, when I give the command to fire, fire straight at my heart. Wait for the order. It will be my last to you. I protest against my condemnation. I have fought a hundred battles for France, and not one against her ... Soldiers, fire!"[17]
>After Ney's death, stories began circulating that Ney had not, in fact, been killed and that his soldiers had found a way to help him escape to America.In 1816, a man arrived in the United States from France calling himself Peter Stuart Ney. After bouts of drinking, Peter Ney would claim to be Michel Ney, and French ex-patriots living in the United States who had served under Marshal Ney noted Peter's resemblance to Napoleon's general. A professor at Davidson College, he was asked to design the seal of the college for its first commencement in 1839. When he fell ill in 1846, his physician and former student asked him if he was Napoleon's favored general. Ney's last words were reportedly, "I am Marshal Ney. I am Marshal Ney of France."
>>267181
>Well, we Germans kinda lack national heroes
Arminius and Siegfried come to mind
Admittedly, one is made up
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>>278214
>>278233
already knew all of that but the part where he stood up to napoleon... no idea what happened there but i thought he was a bit more loyal, like davout.
also, when things started going south on waterloo, wasting your best horsemen on a square of british infantry with bayonets pointing at your face was decisive in course of the battle - but if the charge was successful it could have also turned the tide of the battle, unfortunately, hills and smoke lowered the visibility and the charge was an absolute failure.
and upon napoleon's arrival the troops had orders to fire if he and the small array of men he was leading didn't surrendered unconditionally but although the order was shouted a bloodbath was avoided since the common soldier not only refuse to fire but also joined forces with him.
and to end, fuck that stupid 1000 words limit in this board - this isn't fucking /b/ texts are supposed to be bigger!
>>265592
>have a precision rifle in a era of muskets
>cowardly shoot generals from a position that makes you untouchable by enemes
>hero
No
Not saying he shouldnt have, wars arent won by honor
But he's not a hero
Otherwise you could call drone operators "heroes" too
>Literally wrote books on Chivalry
>Respected by literally everyone, and at one point, was released by England because they trusted him to pay his own ransom, which he did
>Died holding his kings banner, and wouldn't let go even after he died
Not even a Frenchaboo, but he was a pretty cool guy
>He died the day the city fell, 29 May 1453. His last recorded words were: "The city is fallen and I am still alive."[26] Then he tore off his imperial ornaments so as to let nothing distinguish him from any other soldier and led his remaining soldiers into a last charge where he was killed.[27]
>Martim Moniz was a knight participating in the Christian invasion force, led by king Afonso I of Portugal, in the Siege of Lisbon, during the Reconquest. At one point in the siege of São Jorge Castle, he saw the Moors closing the castle doors. He led an attack on the doors, and sacrificed himself by lodging his own body in the doorway, preventing the defenders from fully closing the door.
>This heroic act allowed time for his fellow soldiers to arrive and secure the door, leading to the eventual capture of the castle.
>>265310
>nationalism
you have cancer
>>270578
>applying modern politics to historical events
>>280331
This isnt reddit m8
>Captain Charles Hazlitt Upham, VC & Bar (21 September 1908 – 22 November 1994) was a New Zealand soldier who earned the Victoria Cross (VC) twice during the Second World War: in Crete in May 1941, and at Ruweisat Ridge, Egypt, in July 1942. He was the last of only three people to receive the VC twice, the only one to receive two VCs during the Second World War and the only combat soldier to receive the award twice.
>In March 1941, Upham's battalion left for Greece and then withdrew to Crete, and it was here that he was wounded in the action, from 22 to 30 May 1941, that gained him his first VC. When informed of the award, his first response was: "It's meant for the men."[7]
>Upham was evacuated to Egypt, now promoted to captain. He received a Bar to his VC for his actions on 14–15 July 1942, during the First Battle of El Alamein.
>Having been taken prisoner of war (POW), he was sent to an Italian hospital where an Italian doctor recommended his wounded arm be amputated in view of their extremely scarce supplies and ability to prevent or treat gangrene. Upham strenuously refused, in no small part because the operation would have to be carried out without anaesthetic and he had witnessed other patients dying in agony under surgery.[11] He remained in the hospital to recuperate but attempted to escape numerous times before being branded "dangerous" by the Germans.
>When Colditz Castle was captured by American forces, most of the inmates made their own way home immediately. Upham joined an American unit, was armed and equipped, and wanted to fight the Germans.
>After the war Upham returned to New Zealand, and the community raised £10,000 to buy him a farm. However, he declined and the money went into the C. H. Upham Scholarship for children of ex-servicemen to study at Lincoln College or the University of Canterbury.[10]
>In 1992, he was presented with the Order of Honour by the Government of Greece, in recognition of his service in the Battles of Greece and Crete
>>265486
when reading this it's important to remember that the PIAT was absolute dogshit. Anybody who successfully uses a PIAT should get an award regardless of their other actions
Arlindo Lúcio da Silva, Geraldo Baeta da Cruz e Geraldo Rodrigues de Souza. They were part of the 11º Mountain Infantry Battalion of the brazilian army during world war 2. During a patrol around the outskirts of Monetese they were suprised by a german company and instead of surrendering they threw themselves on the the ground and opened fire until they run out of ammo, after that they pitch their bayonets and rushed towards the germans, they were cut down.
As a form of recognizing there bravery the germans digged three separate shallow graves and placed a cross with the words "Drei Brasilianischen Helden".
Today there is a memorial for them on the 11º Mountain Infantry Battallion.
>>279045
I feel a great empathy for Ney... I think he knew the cause was lost in 1814, but based on everything afterward you can tell he is very conflicted about what he has done. He tries to die nobly on the battlefield for Napoleon because of his guilt, and when his lawyer gave him a way to escape death he instead embraced it.
>>280465
And apparently Sabaton made a music about them.
Neat.
>>270578
spotted the plastic
![Vlad_Tepes_002[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HH1NoZa.jpg "Vlad_Tepes_002[1].jpg")
A real hero
>>265840
That show seems pretty cool
What's the best way to watch it?
>>282202
when I watched it I did it 2 episodes every Sunday due to the length of them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Gunther
>Gunther's unit, Company 'A', arrived at the Western Front on September 12, 1918. Like all Allied units on the front of the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, it was still embroiled in fighting on the morning of November 11.[9] The Armistice with Germany was signed by 5:00 a.m., local time, but it would only come into force at 11:00 a.m. Gunther's squad approached a roadblock of two German machine guns in the village of Chaumont-devant-Damvillers near Meuse, in Lorraine. Gunther got up, against the orders of his close friend and now sergeant, Ernest Powell, and charged with his bayonet. The German soldiers, already aware of the Armistice that would take effect in one minute, tried to wave Gunther off. He kept going and fired "a shot or two".[3] When he got too close to the machine guns, he was shot in a short burst of automatic fire and killed instantly.[5][10] The writer James M. Cain, then a reporter for the local daily newspaper, The Sun, interviewed Gunther's comrades afterward and wrote that "Gunther brooded a great deal over his recent reduction in rank, and became obsessed with a determination to make good before his officers and fellow soldiers."
>>265310
Not sure if "hero", but this dude had a pretty crazy career
>Jean Thurel, or Jean Theurel (6 September 1698 – 10 March 1807),[2] was a fusilier of the French Army with an extraordinarily long career that spanned over 90 years of service in the Touraine Regiment. Born in the reign of Louis XIV and dying during that of Napoleon I, Thurel lived in three different centuries and served three different monarchs.
>Thurel was severely wounded in battle on two occasions. In 1733, during the siege of Kehl, he was shot in the chest with a musket, and at the battle of Minden in 1759, he received seven sword slashes, including six to the head.
>Three of his brothers were killed in the battle of Fontenoy in 1745. One of Thurel's sons was a corporal and a veteran in the same company; he died at the Battle of the Saintes, a naval battle that occurred on 12 April 1782 off the coast of Dominica, West Indies during the American Revolutionary War.[3]
>A well-disciplined soldier of the line infantry, Thurel was only admonished once during his entire career, during the 1747 Siege of Bergen as the French troops occupied the citadel. He was admonished because, the doors of the fortress being shut, he scaled its walls to gain entry so that he would not miss muster.[3]
>Another example of Thurel's discipline and physical fitness occurred in 1787. When his regiment was ordered to march to the coast to embark on ships of the French Navy, he was given the opportunity to travel in a carriage due to his advanced age. The 88-year-old Thurel refused the offer and marched the entire distance on foot, stating that he had never before traveled by carriage and had no intention of doing so at that time.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Thurel
>>269665
"heroes" are a dangerous symbol for toxic nationalism and warrants arrest in Germany
>>277986
>He took a canonball to the head in 1808
Looks like his careeras cut short.
>>265310
>Fought against the tyranny of the revolutionary government
>fought against barbarism and religious persecution
>lead his brave rebels to victories
>died from a sniper
He was too good for this world
