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Tell me about the Klan.
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alright

Fuck it

Why do they wear the mask
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I want to pollute her pure white genes.
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There's like 2000 of them and they're all in Tennessee.
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How could the Ku Klux Klan have achieved their political goals, as in terms of "purifying the land" and become national heroes? Did they have popular support? If no, how could they have gotten it?
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>>1406471
That girl is a Spanish Roman Catholic wearing a capirote.
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>>1406471
>killing political enemies with a religious excuse
>going so hard for your cause that you burn churches despite being Christian

Started out as your typical hypocritical terrorist group. These days its more declawed while serving as a way for racists to be edgy.
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>>1406471
Why'd they call the leader the Grand Wizard. No really why the fuck would you call your leader something that retarded.
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>>1406527
Because why wouldn't you.

Quid pro quo.
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>>1406492
By working against the carpet baggers instead of killing black people I think. Whether or not they should have used violence to do so is up for debate, it might have been inevitable.

They did have popular support at first when they were an activist group under Forrest. When they became overtly racist is when he decided to break up the group and from there it reformed as the bastard offspring of the original, arguably well-intentioned founders.
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>>1406501
>American Klan hates Catholics
>their costumes are literally Catholic rip-offs

It's like pottery.
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>>1406471
>capriote

Those aren't members of the Klan jackass.
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>>1406476
Perhaps they are wondering why you would shoot a nigger before hanging him from a tree
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>>1406471
The KKK doesn't really exist anymore. There are just scattered small groups of rednecks who claim continuity. But the media makes it out like they're actually a unified organization so they can have a scapegoat.
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>>1406471

I thought only Spanish men were allowed to wear a capirote
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>>1406527
The klan used a lot of rituals and mystery stuff to maintain secrecy. Hence the leader being called the Grand Wizard.
Interestingly, their rituals were discovered by a journalist and exposed on the Superman radio show (since news outlets feared reprisal form the KKK) which ruined the klan's mystique and robbed them of their spookiness.
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>>1406574
That's clearly a very effeminate boy.
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>>1406501

Ah so that wasn't just Hirano's exaggerated art when he put them in Helsing then.
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>>1406476
To hide their faces.

Why white triangle hoods? At first they were trying to look like crusaders but rednecks don't have suits of armor or coat of arms, so they sewed sheets together and made the hoods cone shaped to look like medieval helmets (not really, but they seemed to think it looked good).
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>>1406569
They aren't unified, but if anything it makes it harder for the police to keep an eye on them.

Most white supremacist groups remain small these days, sticking to single gangs and acting as such. Every major city in America has at least 1 or two of these gangs, but amongst the other colored gangs they don't stand out.

In small towns are where they have a lot more power, as a large gang with little competition can easily take over, and the cops are more likely to look the other way.

The klan still exists, they just stopped wearing the hoods and ditched the ceremony to deal drugs.
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>>1406471
They have cool names for ranks.
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>>1406640
so like the ira only retarded?
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There were two major clans, the first was created in the aftermath of the civil war, the second started in the early 20th century by William J. Simmons, who apparently read the proposed prescripts of the original Klan and thought "this needs cringe, way more cringe".
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>>1406591
You only find that out, senpai?
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>>1406591
>taking history lessons from Annie Mae

I know this is 4chin, but common.
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>>1406543
I dunno, the original group sounded less like an activist group, more like a seekit club of drunken former confederate cavalry officers scaring blacks for shits and giggles.
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>>1406552
>>Those aren't members of the Klan jackass.
then why do they wear the exact same outfit dummy
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>>1406591

Nope, but this gem still came out of it.
https://youtu.be/rbor4bNVhp8?t=729
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>>1406478
20000 throughout the US*
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Why should I be against white nationalism when blacks supremacists literally want to snipe me from the rooftops?
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>>1407383

Stop using that terrm. "White nationalism" isn't a thing. White isn't a race, a culture or a language.
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>>1407383
>when blacks supremacists literally want to snipe me from the rooftops?

And you don't object to that?
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>>1406569
>But the media makes it out like they're actually a unified organization so they can have a scapegoat.

Huh? I never ever hear about them on the news.
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>>1406562
Nobody cared who we was until we put on the mask
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>>1406471

>1st Klan

A dumb fraternity that got way out of hand. Wound up turning into a loose coalition of ex-Confederate soldiers, run-of-the-mill criminals, and Democrats looking to muscle their way back into power when they were killing each other that is. Some chapters even supposedly took in Native Americans and freedmen who sided with their former masters (I'll leave the citation below). Their sole unifying influence was a hatred of the U.S. Government, Northerners, and Reconstruction (American handling of Reconstruction was even more bungled than Iraq if you can believe it).

>2nd Klan

Definitely closer to the Klan we all know and love/hate today. Jump-started after the release of Birth of a Nation, although they dropped the Yankee-bashing and took up Jew/Catholic/immigrant-bashing to broaden appeal. The fanboyism that got way out of hand even the author of the Clansman, the book that Birth of a Nation, Thomas Dixon Jr., was horrified at the new Klan (he specifically disliked the fact they were anti-Semitic, which the 1st Klan wasn't). This Klan was by far, the most successful of the three and even extended into the North (ironically, Detroit had 40,000 members). This Klan largely fizzled out because of the Great Depression. A little strange, considering they were more popular than the Nazis at their height, and the Nazis managed to capitalize on the Great Depression to seize power.

>3rd Klan

Basically Civil Rights-era butthurt. Not much to say about them. Weren't very popular, and even less successful. Pretty much useful idiots the FBI used as their secret hit squad against Civil Rights advocates.

>4th Klan?

Supposedly all the Klan chapters are being reunited but who knows?

article on the Klan that isn't just mindless pro-Northern bullshit

http://www.youwereliedtoabout.com/nbf.htm

Citation

(Elaine Frantz Parsons, "Midnight Rangers: Costume and Performance in the Reconstruction-Era Ku Klux Klan". Journal of American History 92.3 (2005): page 816).
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>>1407402
If I pull that off will you accept the Negro as your equal?
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>>1407389
>Stop using that terrm. "White nationalism" isn't a thing. White isn't a race, a culture or a language.
This is what white guilt faggots actually believe
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>>1407383
So your admitting that your just as bad as black nationalist? Nationalism, no mater what the origin is retarded.
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>>1407454
It would be extremely damaging to society.
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>>1407502
You're a White guy.
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>>1407389
But white nationalism observably exists, and whiteness is an observable trait. Weird thing to deny.
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>>1406471
They're basically WASP ISIS
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>>1406527

This is why I have always doubted the endless assertion that Nathan Bedford Forrest was the founder of the Ku Klux Klan.

Forrest wasn't the kind of man to put with nonsense like extravagant titles. He was always very blunt and rarely sugar-coated anything. Just doesn't seem like him to put up with the Klan's bizarre lexicon.

There's also the whole showing up to a Civil Rights rally and getting thrown out of the Confederate Cavalry Veterans association incident.
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>>1407546
Actually KKK was more Scots Irish than WASP. It makes me cringe when people use WASP as a synonym for "racist white guy".
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>>1407045
It's the other way around, enjoying more about certain Sarmatian knitting by knowing about history
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>>1407560
Scots Irish basically are WASPs.
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>>1407560
>anti-Jewish

>anti-Catholic

>not WASP core principles
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>>1407568
t. absolute retard

WASPs are a wealthy, nepotistic, Episcopalian English class from the northeast, Scots Irish are shit poor Baptist peckerwoods from the south.
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>>1407575
They are white, they are (more or less) Anglo Saxon, they are protestant.

How much more WASPy do you want it?
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>>1407571
>>1407568
You have to be rich and English to be a WASP.
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>>1407579
They are poor and mostly Celtic, not Anglo. Civil War was even interpreted as le evul Germanics invading putting the boot on rural Celtic folk by many contemporary writers.
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>>1407585
>Celtic
Ulster Scots are generally Germanic lowlanders, they're definitely Anglo.
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>>1407597
They aren't, they are protestant Scots and Irish people. And how many times does it need to be repeated that WASP = wealthy, you thick fuck?
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>>1406471
>comparing the klan to this /his/ swagger
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>>1406471
>>1406501
>>1406591
>>1407609
God I fucking love those type of uniforms.
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>>1407447
Thank you for that post. I learned a lot.
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>>1407535
For you
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>>1406471 (OP)
>>1406501
>>1406591
>>1407609

>letting the door be your gravest enemy
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>>1406476
Nobody cared who they were until they wore the mask...
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>>1406625
Thanks.
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>>1407383
Supremacists are bad in general. You should be against all kinds of them.
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>>1406587
Can be the KKK more meme[d]?
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>>1406589
No wonder catholic priests molest kids.
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>>1406476
Anonymous collectives perform atrocities a lot more easily and whimsically than mobs whose members can be tracked down and brought to justice.

Also it's scary.
Also it dates back mostly to the klan revival in 1915 and not the early klan. Basically Birth of a Nation was a big inspiration in the adoption of the outfit by the organization.
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>>1407609
I'd love to see Inquisition and klan members duke it out in their respective uniforms
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The fiery cross or Crann Tara was used in Scotland in order to assemble members of a clan for war/defence. I don't know if this is the origin of the KKK practice though.
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>>1407389
>white isn't a race
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>>1406476
A lot of loyalty to an invisible empire.
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They're sicker than your average nigger killer.
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>>1406501
hahahah please don't ruin my fantasy that /pol/ack minded virgin qts exist.
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>>1406476
My his teacher said they were dressing up as cofederate ghost.

Was he fuckin with us? Anyone who knows should tell. I also like >>1408104 answer
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>>1407535
For Jews.
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>>1408691
was lynching blacks part of your plan?
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>>1408136

A highly significant number of Confederate soldiers were Scots-Irish.
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>>1408239
fuckin' lunatic
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>>1408714
of course!
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More like Cuck Lux Klan amirite
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>>1406909
like what?
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>>1409298
>Wizard
>Dragon
>Titan
>Cyclops
>Magi
>Monk
>Scribe
>Goblin
>Hydra
>Nighthawk

Sounds like something from a shitty RPG
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>>1406471
Pansy bitches who took to lynching blacks after the civil war, when anti-discrimination laws were attempted to be upheld

The KKK and other groups/politicians are the reasons for segregation and Jim Crow laws came to be
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>>1409325
t - #1 fan of the dallas shooter, proud stepfather, and male feminist
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>>1407489
>>1407545
>>1408147
You will never have a homeland whitey
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>>1409408
Russia.
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>>1408861
Scots-Irish were mainly lowlanders though, not highlanders who used the cross
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>>1409424
>Russia
>White
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>>1409433
Guaranteed whiter than whichever shithole you live in.
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>>1406471
picture unrelated. this has fucking nothing to do with the klan.
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>>1406471
you fags DO know that the klan was started by democrats to subvert the norths win in the civil war and keep slaves, DON'T YOU?
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>>1409443
>browses /his/
>unaware of how ethnically diverse Russia is
shiggy diggy to the left
shiggy diggy to the right
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>>1409424
>>>/pol/
>>>/b/
>>>/r9k/
Leave.
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>>1409498
Where do you think I live?

>>1409500
Triggered as fuck
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>>1406471
>dude founds a group, called the KKK
>it starts to shift towards radicalism, so he disbands it
>most people don't know this and assume the klan he founded is the same as the one from the 20th century, he's known as a notorious racist even though by all accounts he wasn't

rest is history, I just always hated the bad rep Forrest gets.
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>>1409481
Yes, I'm also aware of the southern strategy and how it shifted political poles.

I'm also fully aware that most, if not all of those democrats are now dead. If you're gonna troll, at least pretend to be stupid about something that isn't obvious.
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>>1409535
>how it shifted political poles
really didn't tho. The Dems have been trying to ruin black communities since the War ended, they've just gotten crafty about disguising it, then convincing blacks the GOP was their real enemy. it's honestly sad.
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>>1407447
As a southerner this is the most accurate description of the klan I've ever seen online.

I'd like to add that lynchings were a thing but not very common. klan liked to use the threat of violence to keep blacks and others afraid of them, but they didn't just go around killing people. Don't have a citiation but I've certainly read several times before how there were something like 10,000 lynchings EVER in the US, which isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. it isn't an endorsement, but they weren't mass murderers, just thugs
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>>1406471
the 2nd one was the best one
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>>1407447
The 2nd clan got what they wanted, thats why they fizzled out.
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>>1409508
~85% white (Russians and Ukranians)
No other country in Europe is that unwhite
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>OP's pic
>KKK

>>1406544
Funny how the Klan is full of Protestants yet they rip off something from semana santa of sevilla
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So where can you buy a Klan outfit from, or get one made?
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First Klan best Klan
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>>1406476
You simply adopted racism.
I was born in it, Molded by it.....
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>>1407717
they look so fucking stupid though
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>>1406476
>Can't even escape baneposting on serious boards
Just crash a plane into my house already, it'd at least be an appropriate death. Fuck this meme.
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>>1407338
>300 and change good old boys from the knights of the hanging noose!
Dead
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>>1410969

FOR YOU
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>>1406471
>Tell me about the Klan.

Why do they wear the masks?!
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>>1406471
Klansmen are almost literally retarded. They help ease my black self-hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBna0Es--tM
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>>1406477
of course you do, you're non-white (also kind of a pedophile)
but this is actually a pic of some spanish religious thing
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>>1406625
Wrong.
They borrowed the uniforms from Spanish Catholics
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>>1409002
Dr. Mengele refused our offer in favor of yours
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>>1407579
>irish
>Anglo
>Protestant
Wew
>>1407597
>Ulster Scots are Germanic
Wew
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>>1409308
>being promoted from hydra to goblin
>wizard from dragon, cyclops from magi
Who the fuck wrote these rules?
1/10 would not play
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>>1408251
Only very catholic tradiitional people do that in Spain. Although a spanish traditionalist girl frm Sevilla would be pretty different from a southern redneck girl from the USA, I guess.
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>>1407329
Because the "americans have no culture" meme is kinda real.
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>>1408675
Your teacher was sort of right. In the early, mostly nonviolent days, one of their favorite activities was to dress in Confederate Uniforms and show up at the houses of people they didn't like at night, claiming to be the ghost of someone who died at the Battle of Shiloh or something, and asking for a glass of water.

This eventually morphed into the whole robe get-up, which was also popularized for keeping you anonymous.
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>>1407447
One of the best post iv seen on /his/ desu. Quality work senpai.
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jesus christ
how did anyone take these people seriously?
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>>1414596
All this shit was secret.

Membership dropped sharply after the whole Superman vs. the KKK thing revealed all their stupid shit.
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>>1414596
if youre willing to kill people it is easy to get taken seriously no matter how ridiculous you look

see isis
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>>1414600
this is a fucking riot, man.

>>1414604
yeah, i see your point, but come on.
>IMPERIAL KLEAGLE
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>>1414596
>Kluckold
>Top klek
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>>1414596
>imperial kegel
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>>1406476
>>1406501
>Americans
>in charge of creating culture

topkek!
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>>1414644
>>1414678
Where do you see this?
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>>1407489
Whites don't have a nation, black don't have a nation either so their name is dumb too.
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>>1414759
Laugh as much as you want you pathetic loser. It's America that has Holywood, rock and roll, jazz, blues, soul, not to mention our cuisine. You eat Big Macs and drink Coca Cola. Faggot.
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>>1407571
>>anti-Jewish
>>anti-Catholic

The original klan wasn't either of these.
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>>1407383
ANTI-POLICE STATE IS A CODEWORD FOR ANTI-POLICE

COP PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>1414596
>Klu Klux Klan 101: Put a K and an L in front of everything.

What a shocker...
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>>1408136
The Klan means it to be an image of the neverending flame of white Christianity in a world of darkness.
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>>1407489
White people don't have a uniform culture, russia isn't the same as engand.
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>>1414596
Ed Boon confirmed KKK
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>>1408104
First Klan wore masks too. Like with other secret societies, it's about the ritual. It makes you feel special to be in uniform.
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>>1414506
>and asking for a glass of water.
That sounds awfully quaint, any particular reason why?
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>>1406476
Idk, but itd probably be painful to take it off

:^)
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>>1408104
>create a goofy terrorist organization because it looked cool in a movie

Only in America
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>>1406477
you may have some trouble doing that seeing as that's a spanish boy. look like a young fabio. guess that makes you a fucking faggot
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>>1409575

>muh 10,000 lynchings

Number is actually 4,743, albeit lynchings frequently went unreported so it's safe to assume it's closer to 7,000.

http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html

It took the entire country (whites, Indians, Mexicans, blacks, and yes, blacks did it too) a century to wrack up that body county, not counting the fact that at least 1/4-1/3 of all lynching victims were white and lynching was often used as a form non-state sanctioned for a crime (often if it was feared the accused would be acquitted) rather than just random violence.

By comparison, the 1984 anti-Sikh Pogroms in India surpassed that death toll in a single weekend.
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>>1415721
Oh, I know it wasn't even mostly the klan or whites in general. My main point was that even assuming the highest possible number of lynchings, it wasn't a very big thing.

Sadly, when it comes to violence, 10,000 is child's play.
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>>1410969
>Serious boards
are there really people who think 4chan is some serious business website where you're supposed to be 100% serious 24/7?
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>>1415721
>Reverse google Search
>Google lead me to black lynchings
Ha
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>>1415185
the second was.
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>>1406471
>That
>KKK
Are you retarded?
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>>1414596
>imperial allude
>Kleagle
>Kloreroe
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>>1406587
Supes is fucking based.
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>>1407447
I really really hope the klan doesn't become a thing again.
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>>1406544
>>1409713

The hoods were invented before they became anti-catholic
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>>1417313
But the USA has been anti-catholic since before they even got independent.
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>>1417326

Yeah, but KKK wasn't about anti-catholicism from the beginning.
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>>1406471
White trash.
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>>1410969
>4chan
>serious discussion
I nearly forgot it's summer
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>>1406471

That's not the Klan. I think that is some Catholic order in Spain. Anyway, they're a bunch of butthurt slavecucks who are salty they lost a conflict they could never conceivably win after two years in.
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