Tell me about the light eyes gene /his/.
How in less than 10,000 years was this one mutation able to spread and survive from Eastern Europe all the way to Western China, Northwest Africa, and even South Asia? Was there some sort of selective breeding involving eye color that we were never familiar with?
http://www.livescience.com/9578-common-ancestor-blue-eyes.html
The Buddha was even said to have had blue eyes
Light eyed people cucked everyone else.
Also green eyes are better than blue eyes.
>>1363569
The question is how the gene was able to travel so quickly and thoroughly to other civilizations. Perhaps the conquering warrior classes all had light eyes then when they killed off the men of the areas they conquered they raped all the women and gave them the light eyed gene? Food for thought
>>1363499
>tfw norwegian and have green/brown
for what purpose
>>1363597
Your descendents got muh dicked by Turks
>>1363597
>tfw only 3/4 white and my whiteness comes from southern europe
>brownish green eyes
I won the genetic lottery
>>1363644
Gypsies? Or maybe the Reindeer Eskimo Niggers?
>>1363464
The aryan invasion stupid
>>1363656
Gypsies are not in my part of the country, they are found in the east and there are only 700.
Considering the fact that all of my family come from small towns there is no way a gypsy would get into the family without it being noted and talked about.
Also not from the north at all, samis very unlikely. Also look very nordic otherwise, don't fit in anywhere else.
>>1363675
Jesus Christ, quit pretending you know what your ancestors were up to. It'd likely surprise you to know where exactly your DNA came from.
>>1363683
This,
People lie, people are mistaken, people forget.
>>1363464
It's not really a mutation, the Jews lied to you. Neaderthal had light eyes and Europeans had light eyes since day 1.
>>1363683
I actually know a bit about that, I belong to haplogroup R1a-z284
>>1363575
Makes more sense that people are more attracted to people with light eyes
Thus becoming a rather successful mutation
>>1363703
Different genes
>>1363464
Blue eyes are found all over, though there is a specific shade that I've seen in blacks very rarely that seems to be a pigment mutation in its own right
In my eyes the likelihood of one person being the founder for all blue eyed people is silly. Much like blonde hair it probably has one major region followed by other places with their own mutations (Australia, Solomon islands, Papua New Guinea, Cambodia, etc)
>>1363849
Not him but what about the spread of conventional european blue eyes?
It seems crazy that in only 7,000-10,000 years one genetic mutation in one family could spread to millions and millions without something fucky going on.
And that's with the native population having dominant gene brown eyes.
Surely blue eyes weren't that attractive for mating purposes?
>>1363892
ARYAN
INVASION
>>1363569
>Also green eyes are better than blue eyes.
KEK
>>1363938
They can see slightly better in bright light and are technically more rare.
The whole advantage of blue eyes, aside from being pretty, is the fact that they allow slightly better night vision. They are more sensitive to bright light compared to brown eyes.
>>1363954
this is true. it seems like every white person in USA has blue eyes, mostly a dark kind, but blue nonetheless. now green, truly green eyes? very rare. people usually mistake hazel for green.
>>1363978
Really? I have green eyes, and a very complex mix of hair colors, from bright white blonde to saturated brown with bright tips. Reddish colors in between. Salt and pepper eyebrows and eyelashes that are dark at the root but white at the ends.
My eyes are green but there is yellow connective tissue that look like lightening bolts.
Genetics are weird. I don't quite fit into any category neatly. It's annoying, because I don't know how to describe it well. I can't just say I'm blonde or red headed or brunette. They all don't fit. What's an easy way to describe this garbage?
>>1363464
The same way light hair and skin spread. Sexual selection. When everyone else has dark hair and eyes, someone with blue or green eyes or light hair is going to stand out, and simply for that fact they will more often be selected as mates. This is especially the case with women with such traits. I imagine the first few women with blonde or red hair and blue eyes were considered extremely valuable and coveted.
>>1363683
this is a liberal le reddit myth. Your genes most likely match where you know your heritage comes from. That's just basic statistics.
>>1363716
>I belong to haplogroup R1a-z284
All this proves is that your father was most likely norwegian.
>>1364018
Is that true though? Usually different traits are not praised. Maybe it's a bad comparison but albino animals are rejected as mates. And as you know red hair is usually regarded as not a good thing, even today like in Britain.
>>1363464
>mfw spic
>father and sister have green eyes
>I have poo colored eyes and skin
>>1363464
>How in less than 10,000 years was this one mutation able to spread and survive from Eastern Europe all the way to Western China, Northwest Africa, and even South Asia?
10,000 years is a very long time. The most recent common ancestor of everyone on Earth might have lived as recently as 2000 years ago.
>>1364572
lol what
if you think eskimos and congo ooga boogas have a common ancestor any sooner than at least 50,000 years you are very wrong.
>>1363892
>It seems crazy that in only 7,000-10,000 years one genetic mutation in one family could spread to millions and millions without something fucky going on.
Nah. Trace back any genetic feature and you always end up with a single individual who was the first with that specific mutation.
The Kalash in OP's pic related had light eyes yet they were splintered off from other Caucasians more than 10,000 years ago.
Blue/light eyes are at least 15,000 years old.
>>1364601
Look it up, retard.
>>1364601
http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html
>>1364549
yes it is true, blue eyes are widely considered to be attractive and men are attracted to blonde women because it signals fertility
>>1364610
That's a Nuristani from Afghanistan. Yeah they're pretty much the same but still. Also source for information? Both groups got isolated from others, that's true, but that long ago?
>>1364666
>Also source for information
His ass.
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>>1363675
Some portugese cod-merchant fucked your great great grandma, min venn
>>1363597
>green eyes
What are you complaining about? Green eyes are the best eyes.
>>1363464
That news is old, we have a hunter gatherer from Italy, circa 14000 years ago, who already had the mutation, so it's even older.
>>1364991
Why is the mutation only found among whites and those who they mixed with? The eskimos and mongols for example live in extremely cold temperatures but have never had the gene
>>1365015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oirats
>>1365022
They clearly have Aryan and Turkic genetic influence you retard
>>1364978
I actually noticed that too, a lot of the white looking people tend to be the poorest and remain behind. But then again, in the case of Afghanistan at least, they belong to the most isolated communities so it makes sense. But don't worry, some like pic related managed to get to the West
>>1365035
Do you know where turks originaly come from you genius?
>>1365015
That's true in the case of blue eyes, with Sub-Saharan Africans and Far East Asians having them only in the case of rare random mutations or having the Waardenburg syndrome, but green eyes can be found in places like Thailand and Congo, it's interesting. I wonder why.
Here's a map I made for every country I could find picture evidence of people with green eyes
>>1365015
why do you assume its caused by cold temperatures?
>>1365109
Because that is how white features developed
>>1363661
Nah, the spread of blue eyes predates the IE expansion
>>1365015
It does seem to be an upper paleolithic European thing, consider though that hunter gatherers were pretty damn mobile back then so such a nice mutation I suppose can spread fairly fast, especially over the Eurasian continuum.
>>1365067
Green eyes is a slight mutation of brown eyes. And they still are rarer than blue eyes for some reason.
>>1365109
Not tht guy but light eyes are much better at seeing in the dark than dark eyes are, and the further you et from the equator, the longer periods of darkness you experience during winter. So it's not cold temperatures per se that matters, but the day-night cycle.
>>1364013
Post pics
>>1363464
A more interesting question would be about Amber eyes. How does fat get in your eye?
>>1365067
I met several people with light eyes in Togo as well. No pictures though, sorry.
Easy question. Women aren't monogamous.
>>1365015
Mutations are pretty rare for a start.
>>1366077
It's alright, and that's pretty cool. Thanks for letting me know
>>1365122
from low light, not from cold weather. East asians evolved their features from cold weather
>>1364013
post pics
>>1366246
SAY WHAAAAAAT???
This must be fake as hell.
>>1365067
SAY WHAAAAT?
THIS IS FAKE AS HELL.
>>1363499
It's almost like eye color were an adaptation to solar irradiation.
Wew, who would have guessed
>tfw pale as wonder bread but still have poo poo eyes
>>1366826
I've known like a dozen black people with naturally blue eyes.
But also I live in the US and most black people have some white in them from slave-master rapings.
>>1363464
Guess ethnicity?
Can anyone explain how blue eyes work? I remember vaguely reading something about them NOT being a recessive trait, but some trait that works in a really weird way in that it can skip generations and somehow show up in black people too if they have white ancestors on both sides.
I also wonder how it showed up in Mylène Jampanoï. Her mother is French, her father Chinese (no European admixture as far as I know) and she has blue eyes.
>>1364603
>>1363900
No but I mean how could it go from 1 guy to millions of people in only 10,000 years.
Especially being recessive?
I know how genes pass down and such but 10,000 is not a very long time.
Unless it offered some huge benefit I don't understand how it spread that fast or well.
What selection pressure was there for an eye that saw SLIGHTLY better in the dark?
>tfw nobody finds brown eyes attractive
>>1367056
Brown eyes are super attractive on females.
>dark hair
>light blue eyes
What I am?
>>1367070
Literally any European ethnicity.
There are even dark haired swedes.
>>1364603
>you always end up with a single individual
you failed biology in highschool dindt you?
>>1363597
The map includes green eyes despite using the color blue.
>>1365067
I'm from Chile and green eyes are mostly found in the upper class, I would say they are as common as blue eyes if not more
>>1366995
Her eyes don't really look asian though.
Maybe her real father isn't chinese
>>1367056
You can have attractive brown eyes. I have (light) brown eyes and i've been told to have beautiful eyes before.
They will probably not be attractive due to being brown though. Shape and the size of your pupils are important too.
>>1367013
>only saw SLIGHTLY better in the dark
Allows for vitamin d3 synthesis through the eyes. This is fucking huge if there isn't a lot of sunlight around for whatever reason.
>>1365067
I've seen green eyes in Africans it's linked to a form of blondism
People forget blondism doesn't just effect hair color, it effects all melanin.
AC at: rs4778241 - High Melanin. Adds yellow, amber, or brown. Some darkening. Contributes Amber, Brown.
AG at: rs4778138 - Adds melanin. Adds yellow, amber, or brown. Some darkening. Contributes to brown.
CC at: rs3794604 - Blocks some melanin. Often gives light colored eyes.
CC at: rs9782955 - Blocks some melanin. Often gives light colored eyes.
CT at: rs4553604 - Blue.
CT at: rs989869 - Contrasting sphincter around pupil.
CT at: rs3947367 - Contrasting sphincter around pupil.
CT at: rs1129038 - Adds Yellow.
AA at: rs8033448 - Med Brown on Sphincter
GT at: rs7713279 - Inhibit weak amber gradient
GG at: rs12906280 - Gray ring around outer edge
CG at: rs16891982 - Medium melanin production on Anterior Epithelium. Adds yellow, amber, or brown. Some darkening.
GT at: rs1470608 - Medium melanin on Anterior Epithelium. Gives dark eyes.
CT at: rs1667394 - Medium melanin production on Anterior Epithelium. Adds yellow, amber, or brown. Some darkening.
CT at: rs916977 - Adds melanin. Adds yellow, amber, or brown.
AG at: rs7174027 - Adds Yellow.
AG at: rs7495174 - Adds melanin. Adds yellow, amber, or brown. Some darkening. Contributes to brown.
JUST
>>1367930
wtf I hate god now
>>1367938
FUCK
14.000 year old Villabruna had blue eyes, many WHGs were already blue eyed at that time, so the mutation is probably much older than that.
>>1367960
MY EYES UP
>>1367930
id hit it
>>1364570
I made green poo all the time. Feel better?
>>1363464
My thoughts are that there was lots inbreeding and these people eventually spread.
>>1363575
The thing probly developped in the Eurasian steppe, so it makes sense it would spread to most of the continent.
>>1364013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_hair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titian_hair
My question is how variations in humans aren't more common? Why there's no grey hair or proper yellow genes, for example?
>>1366995
Maybe someone down her father's bloodline got khan'd.
>>1368399
>red, purple, yellow, orange
humans are an anomaly
they lack much variation which exists in other species
even cats and dogs have more color variation
lions, wolves are light eyed
its really pathetic how monotonous and homogenous humans are
>>1368425
dont blame me. at least i wear blue contacts to differentiate from my fellow clones here
>>1363892
bitches literally could not resist a blue eyed aryan superman
the first guy with blue eyes probably impregnated more women than Genghis Khan
>>1367930
Sister has blue eyes, I have green eyes.
gf has green eyes, her brother has blue eyes,
Your theory sucks.
>>1368425
We're still parsecs away from our closest relatives though, other great apes are even more monotonous. And human faces are pretty varied too, as well as hair. And considering how we can style hair, tattoo and dress up, we're pretty varied.
>>1363464
Since blue eyes originated in what is now the middle east, and that protoindoeuropean societies expanded by the sword it's pretty likely that they substitued the previous populations.
And grey eyes best eyes
ITT people who can't tell the difference between blue and grey eyes
![tumblr_m7mr8aaHrq1ronnz0o1_400[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/Ya9bWft.gif "tumblr_m7mr8aaHrq1ronnz0o1_400[1].gif")
>>1367120
>applauding your non-argument
ANY genetic mutation occurs necessarily in a single individual. How do you not understand that, oh great wizard of biology?
>>1367930
/his/ will deny this
