[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
Why is Shia so much more based than Sunni?
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /his/ - History & Humanities

Thread replies: 34
Thread images: 5
File: image.jpg (169 KB, 965x495) Image search: [Google]
image.jpg
169 KB, 965x495
Why is Shia so much more based than Sunni?
>>
Persia has more interesting history than the rest of the muslim world that is west of Persia combined.
>>
>>1347390
>>1347396
t. persian-pro
>>
No Salafism, for starters--that seems to be the real problem on the other side of the fence
>>
>>1347396
>>1347402
I don't see how that has any semblance on the matter, considering Iran was Sunni until the Safavid Shah Ismail I

Many important Iranians were Sunnis--Hafez, Rumi, Saadi, etc and many early Muslims contributed to Sunni Islam (an-Nasai, Bukhari, Tabari, et al)

To write this off as "bruh Iranians r just Betr xd" is sophomoric.

t. Iranian
>>
because they are less relevant.

both are shit
>>
>>1347432


"To write this off as "bruh Iranians r just Betr xd" is sophomoric" Breh, i'm just a northern European who couldn't give two fucks about theological differences between Sunni and Shia.
I just like Persian history more.
>>
>>1347396
More m*jus lies

Do they ever end?
>>
>>1347442
More Arab racism

Does it ever end?
>>
>>1347441
Then why are you answering the question if you know little about the subject?

Oh wait, this is 4chan
>>
>>1347434
Iran is the most powerful country in the region, save Israel. Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon and Yemen are Shia, and Syria up until recently was ruled by a secular Shia. I don't see how you can get much more relevant than that.
>>
>>1347451

What objective question where there exists only one answer did I answer?

Oh wait, I answered a subjective question of what I prefer. Especially since the question (which religion is better) can't be objectively measured it becomes wiser to answer the question by looking at the more objectively measurable things that surrounds said religion.

But don't let that worry you, just wallow in your "muh 4chan everyone is inferior to me" shit
>>
>>1347462
>it becomes wiser to answer the question by looking at the more objectively measurable things that surrounds said religion.
You could have done that instead of saying something nearly irrelevant to the thread.
>>
>>1347449
No racism, only r*fidah taqiyyah here
>>
>>1347481
Quit censoring yourself Khawarij, you're going to hell anyway.
>>
>>1347460

Turkey is objectively stronger than Iran.
>>
>>1347532
Eh, either way my point still stands. The Shia have enough clout to do some damage if they wanted to but it's mostly being done by Salafists.
>>
>>1347390
A Good chunk of Shi'a these days are Barbaric Republican Khomeinicucks.

>tfw you will never storm a city of Salafist shitfaces with your glorious Qizilbash brothers.
>>
>>1347410
Khomeinism tho
>>
>>1347481
t. Abu Eesa Abdurraheem al Wahid ibn Tyrone
>>
>>1347587
Can't even hold a candle to the destructive and violent nature of Salafism.

It's like comparing Assad to Stalin or Pol Pot
>>
Shia isn't under the retarded influence House of Saud and the Wahhabi Islam they spread.
>>
>>1347872

Not too strange when they consider Shias infidels
>>
>>1347875
They consider us as 'rawafid,' or rejectionists. Their books call for our deaths as well as Christians and Jews.

This is where most of the violence stems from
>>
>>1347432
"sunni"
>>
>>1347584
>Qizilbash

from where?

t. Turkish qizilbash/Alevi reporting in
>>
File: Islam_branches_and_schools.svg.png (224 KB, 2000x1302) Image search: [Google]
Islam_branches_and_schools.svg.png
224 KB, 2000x1302
>>1347390
>It's another "sunni and shia are the only two sects of Islam"

Sufism is objectively the best out of all.
>>
File: your shitposting is haram.jpg (34 KB, 710x540) Image search: [Google]
your shitposting is haram.jpg
34 KB, 710x540
>>1347390
>>
>>1347896
Sufism is not a sect. YOu can be a sufi and radical/retarded.

Better off being a "heretical" sect like Alevi/Bektashi
>>
>>1347906
Very, very rarely are Sufis Fundamentalists though.

They're pretty damn conservative, but practically none are "everything is haram, kill the deviants" types.
>>
File: Gomaa1.jpg (23 KB, 620x350) Image search: [Google]
Gomaa1.jpg
23 KB, 620x350
>Implying Naqshbandi, Shadhili, Qadiri and Jerrahi Sunni Sufi orders aren't based as hell.
>>
>>1347951
Mullah Omar was a Sufi.

So were the Janissaries. And the Qizilbashi.

Basically, with Sufis everything depends on the tariqa, your master and other outside circumstances. They're not all like Rumi, even if the focus on the internal dimension of faith makes them less likely to obsess about day-to-day habits.
>>
>>1347996
And Rumi wasn't a hippy like some of his modern day western liberal followers.
He was a strict traditionalist with a more flexible approach to the Law than most and a focus on mysticism.

Which is what Classical sufism in general is.

>Mullah Omar wuz a Sufi
In the same sense Hitler was a socialist.

The Deobandi and their Taliban offshoots reject Esotericism, instead adhering to literalism and see the traditional teachings of the Sufi Orders as bid'ah as per the teachings of their Salafi-Wahhabi influences.

Those are directly contrary to the most basic principles of Sufism.
>>
>>1347891
He clearly means the warriors of the Safaviyya.
Thread replies: 34
Thread images: 5

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.