Biggest pieces of shit in history
>>1322074
ITT: drive-by controversy posting so you can watch shitheads arguing
How you want your empire pham?
>>1322074
Truly, only met Napoleon in the battlefield once, then get suddenly showered with prestige.
There are more deserving Generals that have beaten Napoleon more than once.
This guy
>>1322080
who beat Napoleon more than once?
>>1322074
This dude was so bad at war it hurts
I don't even want to imagine what would've happened if the Prussians didnt show up
>>1322074
>>1322104
michel ney was pretty based
Fuck this guy
>>1322178
woah dude chill
>>1322074
>>1322104
I loathe Wellington and think John Churchill, the Duke of Marlborough was a far better commander, but Wellington was forced to fight a protracted campaign in Iberia for 6 years. His limited army backed by the Spanish guerrillas constantly bled invaluable French manpower and treasure in a pointless foray. He took advantage of the terrain and the haphazard lines of communication and supply to give the French occupational forces a good thrashing.
Those lessons from Spain like the use of the reverse slope to hide his true strength allowed the Prussians to arrive en masse and help turn the tide of the battle. It really bothers me that Waterloo literature makes it look like the British were able to defeat Napoleon without Germanic help...despite the fact that there were more German-speakers in Wellington's army than English, Welsh, Scots, and Irish. Not to mention the large Dutch contingent.
If anything, Waterloo was an Anglo-Dutch-German victory; ALL the allies were essential in thwarting Napoleon. I don't mind the Royal Navy being lionized in history because they WERE uncontested and contributed with the blockade that weakened Napoleon's hold on Europe. Not to mention bonafide badass captains like Thomas Cochrane doing all sorts of feats that make Hornblower and Aubrey look like rank amateurs.
>>1322174
>Michel Ney
>Ney led one of the last infantry charges, shouting to his men: "Come see how a marshal of France dies!
>"Soldiers, when I give the command to fire, fire straight at my heart. Wait for the order. It will be my last to you. I protest against my condemnation. I have fought a hundred battles for France, and not one against her ... Soldiers, fire!"
God damn, what a madman
>>1322207
Why would he speak in English to his troops? I think you are making this up
>>1322193
How is Franz Ferdinand a piece of shit? He actually wanted to reform the Empire so that the Slavic populations would actually have a say in the government. He felt that the Magyars had way too much power and felt a Tripartite government would've brought some checks and balances.
If anything, the biggest piece of shit in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1914 was Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf who vehemently wanted to wage war on Serbia.
>>1322207
Poor Ney...he had the biggest pair of cojones but no brain. He wasn't fit to be a marshal.
>>1322196
>His limited army backed by the Spanish guerrillas constantly bled invaluable French manpower and treasure in a pointless foray.
Huehuehue
Wellington's "limited" army faced an even more limited French army on what was a secondary theater Napoleon barely cared about
And yet, despite never facing Napoleon or the real Grande Armee, it still took Wellington 6 fucking years to take back Spain
>>1322227
>He wasn't fit to be a marshal.
>Won the majority of his battles
how about you hang yourself my man
>>1322214
For the same reason Caesar and Sun Tzu did
Cretin
>>1322235
Philistine
>>1322229
I know that. But Napoleon couldn't afford to lose face and allow Portugal (as well as Spain) to be a leak in his Continental System. If he pulled his troops out, it would be seen as weakness. Meanwhile, British goods would flood Europe via this Iberian connection.
The whole Peninsular War was a chance for Britain's small army and its naval supremacy to take advantage of ideal terrain. Iberia had large coastlines where supplies could be ferried and depots set up. Meanwhile, the Lines of Torres Vedras ensured that Wellington can always fall back to safety in case his army was at risk (which happened several times throughout the course of the campaign). The countryside was picked clean of supplies and guerrillas constantly harassed the French armies so there was never a decisive engagement like they did to John Moore.
>>1322233
Ney was more suited to be a cavalry commander than a Marshal of France. Napoleon's stepson Eugene deserved the baton more than Ney since he was quite talented as a commander.
>>1322125
He said worst, not based.
>>1323371
A man can be based and a piece of shit at the same time.
>>1322074
John Green
>>1323851
I love John Green
>>1323871
Watch out, /his/ thinks he's a revisionist liberal piece of shit and they'll be on your heals like the Mongols.
>>1322077
So bait?
Indirectly, so somewhat undoe, but still.
Politicians
>>1322243
>causing the Mexicans
He really was
>>1326480
inb4 /leftypol/ asspain
>>1326480
I don't think he was the biggest piece of shit in history (he was kind of a piece of shit from what I've heard of his personal life, though), but the guys who took his theory and ran with it definitely were pretty up there.
>>1326508
Damn that cape is badass as fuck.
Well Hitler was a badass guy I guess. Taking whatever he wants, rearranging the world map just because why not? Letting others do his will etc...
>>1326508
Someone explain this photo to me; did he actually wear a cape or is it just a famous photoshop?
>haha once I let Strongbow marry my daughter and give him a claim on my throne he'll be sure to obey me :^)
If I had a time machine I would kill him myself.
Of course the most russian way possible with an AK-47 drinking vodka while a t-shirt that say bring back soviet union.
>>1326569
He is as close to the Antichrist as you can get. He was just a lowly peasant but he used his charisma, sexual prowess (He told women fucking him would relieve them of their sins) and religious authority to control people and he even "controlled" the Czars wive which means during WW1 he basically controlled Russia. He was also an alleged healer.
It still collapsed (Maybe because of Rasputin) and the Bolsheviks took over, which means Rasputin assissted the communists.
Seriously if the antichrist existed this is exactly how he would get to power. By hypnotizing people and using his dick to get close to powerful women.
>>1326619
>attributing all that to Rasputin
this meme needs to stop
>>1322196
Sort of missing the fact that Wellingtons mixed army at Waterloo made it far harder to effectively command because of all the different fucking nationalities in it. People like to play up the role of the Dutch and Germanic regiments (not talking about the Prussians here) but sort of forget that many of these units were recently raised and very untrained too; this in comparison to the British units which were veterans and who, as a result, saw some of the fiercest fighting.
Facing this army was one which was unified under 1 national identity, was stuffed full of veterans and had incredibly high morale, which is not something that could be said for Wellington's force (those Dutch and German regiments especially were kind of shaky)
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>>1326456
Yeah but to be fair Didius Julianus wasn't fit to be emperor of Rome, if he didn't overthrow him someone else would have. Septimius Severus' greatest crime was bringing pic related into the world, an even bigger prick. Its ironic that Mr. 'Disdain for plebs' is also Mr. 'Citizenship for fucking everyone'.
>>1326619
>>1326565
I was teached at school that Rasputin was just a 'strange person' and he really was. As I know he helped tsar's family to get over with the wickness of their child that's why emperor and his family believed him. I don't think that he had so much influence over the emperor to be able to rule army.
This cunt. Fuck her.
>>1322207
>>1322227
>>1322275
it's said that after falling off his horse and having his head mashed on the ground, the concussion changed his personality: made him more rash and impetuous hence the final charge in waterloo, where even a less seasoned marshal would think twice before charging infantry retreating to a hill
needless to say they reformed into a square and destroyed the charging cuirassiers who had no choice of spotting the defensive formation until it was too late
also, wellington just needed to win a single engagement against napoleon - that was enough to end the whole campaign once and for all
>>1326508
He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
>>1326619
are you russian? because only russians could be stupid enough to eat all that propaganda...
>inb4 stalin wasn't bad at all!!! he was just poorly advised!
>>1322079
>>1327570
Not ironic at all. He wanted more people to disdain.
>>1322243
Hernan Cortés... yes he was a son of a bith but Pedro de Alvarado and Francisco Pizarro were filthy motherfuckers, cruel, intolerant, greed- driven, heaten dogs.
>>1327699
Mouse soldier scene in nutcracker ballet
>>1323639
You're not wrong. Diogenes was a magnificent bastard.
>>1326508
Literally did nothing wrong
>>1322074
Rosa fucking Luxemburg
>>1322207
so, ney was high on the revolution?
damn
>>1326619
>
Rasputin was member of a neocarpocratian sect.
>>1322125
Get the fuck out faggot
>>1326551
it's not a cape as in superhero cape, it's probably a long vest which was possibly worn as a cape as well
fucking scum tier history pleb thread
ivan the terrible was a mistake
then lenin
before them it was genghis khan
and before khan it was a mystery
Fucking Cadorna deserves at least an honorable mention.
>>1326756
>and had incredibly high morale
One may wonder why given the odds they faced in that campaign...
>>1328892
>>1327766
You know where too go, back to /pol/
>>1322243
To be fair, if it wasn't him it'd just be some other guy. Nothing much was going to get inbetween Spain and all those potential precious metal resources
>>1326756
Kek.
The Grande Armée died during the campaign of Russia, the soldiers of Waterloo were not full of vets
>>1330562
Napoleon himself said his true mistake was made in Spain
>>1327766
What did he do wrong?
>>1326565
>Implying that would kill him
>>1330573
Yeah, but that's another thing.
His advisors convinced him it would be good, well fuck.
>>1330598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequences_of_Nazism
Nazism, not even once
>>1322275
It's true that Eugene was pretty good, but you're severely underestimating Ney. He was a monster on the battlefield and won many battles, which aren't all due to his reckless charging.
Besides, the whole Waterloo blunder wasn't really a stupidity; if the charge didn't break the scots then the battle was lost anyway.
>>1326480
Why? One night him and Engles went pub touring in Soho, Marx grabbed Engles's revolver and started shooting out all the street lamps. Both of them fell over laughing in a drunken stupor.
How was he an asshole? He believed he was doing the right thing with his political agitating, he never intended for Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, etc to use his works in the way that they did through the oppression of liberty and mass murder.
>>1327766
>sent kids to concentration camps to die of starvation disease, execution, etc just for being born.
>nothing wrong
>Massacred two towns full of civilians in revenge for the assassination of heydrich when they were the wrong towns
>nothing wrong
>these are justtwo examples off the top of my head.
>>>/pol/
>>1331834
Kinda sad that the only funny story abot Marx involves him vandalising public property
>>1322074
>yes, well done Napoleon, well done
>HOWEVER
>I am going to win this referendum and then the next elections and be Prime Minister 5 more years my dear like Edward Heath in 1973
pighead fucker
>>1333072
That would be Tsar Alexander I after the Battle of Borodino
>>1331842
Honestly, probably this guy right here, if we go by the standard of Moderns claiming Hitler is the worst person who ever lived.
This guy probably has more blood on his hand, in a time before mechanized slaughter became a thing, in addition to being the most prolific serial rapist in human history.
How people can try to rewrite Alexander as a piece of shit and apologize for Genghis in the same breath is disgusting
>>1329450
>spend your entire career in one fucking spot
>fail every attack in said spot
>manage to lose half of Italy's army
>become Romeaboo faggot who kills countless numbers of own men
Jesus Christ, Italy really could not do war after unifying
>"What the bloody hell do you mean the Somme is getting bogged down? THROW MORE MEN AT THEM!"
>>1322082
Leopold II was a pretty huge piece of shit, without a doubt. I think only Otto von Bismarck or Kaiser Wilhelm II might have been more colossal pieces of shit than Leopold in the pre-WW2 era.
>Uses all his focus on capturing Rome, a publicly declared open city
>Lets the entire 7th Army escape unscathed behind the Gustav Line
>>1334051
oh boy it's another part of the lions led by donkeys meme
>>1322074
>mfw I'm not alone in realizing Wellington would've been crushed if he didn't have a billion slav fucks supporting him
>>1331842
this
>>1322125
He is the most respected man on earth! HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!?!?!
>>1333136
More like
>I'm gonna fuck my entire country because my party is divided!
>>1327610
Heh, maybe not having Rasputin's voodoo was why the Russian war effort was so dysmal.
But no, he didn't have control over the army. Nicky was Autocrat, so it all ultimately came down to him. He was bas at war, and many of his generals were just as bad, if not worse.
Rasputin had the most influence when Nicky wasn't around. At those times, the Queen served more or less as Regent, and she definitely had Rasputin in her ear.
He might not have been a huge factor in the fall of the Romanovs, but he did have his fair share of fuck ups. Everyone in the court reviled him. Hell, even Nicky himself couldn't stand the man and had him sent away, but he ultimately called him back when Alexei got sick again. So the assassination if Rasputin was a huge act of defiance agains the royal family.
>>1334065
>Bismark
Now you made me mad.
Explain yourself, the man was incredible based and visited soldier lazarets regulary so he knew what pain war would cause.
>>1322125
t. Plato
Don't mind me, just being a very relevant politician, guiding his nation toward a glorious Socialist future. Did I mention that I have an extremely good reputation abroad and that I'm very relevant on the international stage?
>>1326465
he is senpai
>>1333136
Literally happened less than a week ago.
/pol please go.
>>1322188
Tjänare, danskjävel
I am surprised nobody posted him earlier.
>>1333069
There was the time he impregnated his housekeeper and had Engels take the fall
>>1336219
>Antyder Gustav Wasa inte var ett jävla rövhål som bröt sina löften och körde över de bönder som förde honom till makten
this guy
muh aragon collectives
muh forced militarisation
muh war and revolution are inseperable
