In what places and periods of time women looked like sluts?
Also when tits started being seen as something vulgar and to be covered and why?
>>1321678
>In what places and periods of time women looked like sluts?
Every place and time except modern day Saudi Arabia.
>>1321688
Wos such sluttery
fuck off I'm looking for time periods when women looked like hooker whores you know kinda like your mom.
>>1321678
Only when a civilization had degenerated to the point of near collapse. I hope the aliens who study us aren't left with so little archaeological evidence that they assume we always lived in a feminist society.
>>1321713
You have to go back.
>>1321678
With the initial spread of Christianity. Early Christians were very similar to how some Muslims treat their women these days.
In other words, women were required to cover all of themselves in robes. This is completely contrary to the classical tradition with classical Mediterranean societies.
>tldr blame strong adherence to Paul from Christianity.
>>1321713
>Society has degenerated because women can show their asses in the privacy of their homes
>Society has degenerated because it does not adhere to my specific moral code.
>This is completely because of Feminism despite how Feminism would dictate that [pic related] would be sexual objectification
Wew lad
>>1321776
Weren't Greek women required to weir a veil and rarely leave the house? I wouldn't doubt that this changed during the Roman occupation though.
>>1321788
>sexual objectification
Only if men like it. Otherwise it's slut shaming. And they are indeed sluts.
Check your privilege cisshit.
>>1321678
Since always
That's nature, no matter if feminism wants you to think that's not natural
>>1321805
Greeks were not one big thing like todays Greece. Every city had other codes and culture. Also by ancient Greeks you cover around 1.500 years spanning to the Cretes who had equality and shit and Athenians that had extra house wings specifically for women and shit.
>>1321842
Athenians were the original robots
>>1321814
The tent-like appearance I think mainly has to do with Arab dress rather than any explicit command in the quran or a hadith. Even men wear long flowing robes and the suffocating burqa is uniquely an afghan thing.
Even pagan European women would wear head coverings and dress modestly. It's the superior Mediterranean culture that would allow women to wear less restricting clothing, although that's probably more due to climate.
>>1321814
This was actually one of the "sins" that Hypatia committed.
>>1321870
>What is the Gospel according to Paul?
>What were early Christians?
>What is my life?
Can someone just post porn of Minoan women?
>>1321713
>implying it's a bad thing we can now have sex with more that one person in our lives
If you don't wana see hot ass everywhere you look I guess just close your eyes anon, or keep being a huge pleb like you currently are.
>>1322241
We always could and always have. The point was not to make a show of it.
>>1322241
>leting your sexual urges go above society
pleb
>>1321822
>vestidos prehistoricos
Spain, high test since the paleolithic.
>>1321788
>the privacy of their homes
>privacy
>a photo that literally everyone on the internet can see
>privacy
>>1322137
Is historically accurate porn a thing?
>>1322241
>>implying it's a bad thing we can now have sex with more that one person in our lives
It is a bad thing
Now before you twist your knickers and scream fundamentalist, let me defend myself.
Sexual fidelity is what promotes and protects the family structure, there have been very societies built without a family structure and no societies that have progressed into civilizations without a strict family structure.
The family (which relies upon sexual fidelity and is necessarily opposed to open promiscuity) is the basis for building any civilization, it is the building block of civilized society.
It's the ultimate decentralization of state power, it protects the individuals rights.
The family unit is essentially a biological affirmation of liberty coming from the world of political and social doctrine.
To want sex as an ends and not a means to a greater ends is a symptom of degenerating society, often in conjunction with secularism.
Deny yourself.
Take up the cross
And follow him.
You can save Western Civilization, just don't quit on me.
>>1321776
>Early Christians were very similar to how some Muslims treat their women these days.
(citation very much needed)
>>1321891
Hypatia committed the sin of being born a mathematician and a woman....
Women usually aren't good at maths.
>>1321897
>what is evidence
>>1321713
Unsurprisingly, at the same time Rome was crumbling the cult of the phallus was gaining steam.
Rome is oft oversexualized by moderns who themselves live in a very sexual society.
Many a time do we make the mistake of the ages and look at a past time through our own lens instead of through theirs.
They were more open about sex, obviously, Romans had massive families and their founding mythos was a giant raping.
But this doesn't equate to sexual promiscuity being rampant and accepted within the empire.
Sex for them had a different meaning.
Similar, but still different, for instance, homosexual acts were seen more in terms of power than in lust, we moderns also equate brotherhood to homosexuality.....
>>1322456
>there have been very societies built
Very few***
>>1322340
I don't fucking care I just want to see big bare breasts peeking out the tops of tight bodices
>>1321678
they surely sagged a shitton by their mid twenties in those days
>>1322456
Me, reading your post:
>Makes sense
>I suppose
>Well others say it takes a village to raise a kid
>Well my parents never stayed together and I turned out fine
>If I tell him this he'll probably insist I'm a degen tho.
>Secularism is bad.
>Uh oh
>Christpropaganda
>>1321776
The veil is taken directly from Rome and Greece
What did ancient pussy and ass smell like?
Nothing more I like than eating tasteless pussy and ass.
Nothing more I hate than ass and pussy that smells horrible.
How would in have fared in those times?
Did hoes even shave?
>>1322627
I believed the Egyptians shaved everything to attempt to be hygienic and reduce any crabs or whatever in their bush.
>>1322633
*tweezed. Or whatever the ancient equivalent was. Probably clam shells.
>>1321678
>In what places and periods of time women looked like sluts?
Mostly in the stone age.
>Also when tits started being seen as something vulgar and to be covered and why? After the stone age and the increased stratification of society and codes of etiquette and the demotion of women to lower standing and in the case of Europe when Indo-European prudes came around.
Many tribal cultures did away with toplessness after coming into contact with Christian and Islamic imperial influences beginning in the early modern era but despite that many cultures were able to preserve toplessness to this day.
>>1321678
>In what places and periods of time women looked like sluts?
Mostly in the stone age.
>Also when tits started being seen as something vulgar and to be covered and why?
After the stone age and the increased stratification of society and codes of etiquette and the demotion of women to lower standing and in the case of Europe when Indo-European prudes came around.
Many tribal cultures did away with toplessness after coming into contact with Christian and Islamic imperial influences beginning in the early modern era but despite that many cultures were able to preserve toplessness to this day.
>>1322627
>>Nothing more I like than eating tasteless pussy and ass.
>
>Nothing more I hate than ass and pussy that smells horrible.
well betas like you do not have choice, since women will always find men to try to make them cum.
>>1321713
me in the middle
>>1322611
Atheistism is quite normal amongst European nationalists/conservative parties. Too bad the conservatives on 4chan are all Jesus loving burgerclaps.
>>1322272
>sexual urges
Good.
>society
Dangerous spook.
You have no business calling anybody a "pleb" my property.
>>1321713
Fuck it, I'd do terrible things to the one in the middle.
Terrible things.
>>1322597
they had a support structure underneath the tits that pushed them up but left the nipples and upper part exposed
pretty great
>>1322456
Nah that's bullshit, lots of societies were decadent when they rose, reached their peak, and then collapsed.
>>Deny yourself. Take up the cross And follow him.
No thanks, I have no need to 2000 year old dead jews to tell me what to do, sorry to hear that you do though.
>>1321870
>Even pagan European women would wear head coverings
No they didn't, not in Northern Europe at least.
>>1322456
I think it is pretty obvious that the roots of human sexuality lies in the polygamie like many social mamals. Monogamy may have its propagation as a way to cope our instincts. I even dare to say that cultures developed monogamy as a try to handle their own sexual insecurity and its pain, like fightng for the best mate or being rejected.
If monogamy is important for civilization it is debatable, but how monogamy shines to work in our history looks like a massive repression of our nature, limitating our potential as human being.
I do not want to that polygamy is the aswer, but neglecting our roots is retarded.
>>1321678
>In what places and periods of time women looked like sluts?
America/Europe, 2016AD
>>1325483
ooh! Edgy!
How did women dress in Sparta? It was such a strange culture.
>These women from a place with different cultural sensibilities than ours have a different dress code and wear more revealing clothing, such sluts they are!
How fucking mature... Seriously OP, i believe the board your looking for is
>>>>>/r9k/
>>1325470
>animals do it, so it's okay
>we used to do it, so it's okay
You can say the same thing about rape, paedophilia, necrophilia, incest etc
You can also say it about homosexuality. Now there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, but the argument is still retarded.
Being civilised means knowing where to draw the line.
And in my opinion, for as long as venereal diseases and unwanted pregnancies exist, monogamy is the right way to go.
The "primal polygamy" you're advocating is more in line with the top left of this picture than anything that remotely resembling the modern polyamory movement (for example).
>tfw "polyamory" no longer has a red line under it in chrome spell check
>>1325801
How many people are willing for polygamy anyway, I think it would cause massive jealousy issues, and if not it would mean that having any kind of relationship deeper then sexual would be viewed less important, or just not needed, which in turn could make people even more atomised, and less caring about society, family in general.
>>1325801
>And in my opinion, for as long as venereal diseases and unwanted pregnancies exist, monogamy is the right way to go.
You're a dumb fucking prudish moron then, because cures, preventatives and vaccines for VD all exist now, and we have these things called contraceptives and abortions for unwanted pregnancies.
>>1325836
Not him, but I guess he would say why you need these if you an just avoid problems.
>>1325848
Because I want to have sex with more then just 1 woman and that is all the justification I need.
>>1325856
you must remember these are mostly virgin summer break "looser" kids, they couldn't have sex even if they tried, hence why they are so pseudoprudish about it, to mask their sexual frustrations.
>>1322326
It's portuguese, you moron.
>>1324538
Nigga what
>>1325826
>How many people are willing for polygamy anyway
I think most people want to have sex with a few different partners before they settle down, and some don't want to settle down. And that's okay.
I don't think anyone really wants actual polygamy in their lives (i.e. having sex with multiple people at the same time) these days apart from Arab oil barons and tumblr polyamorists.
As for your other arguments against it; they clearly present a rather conservative viewpoint but I don't disagree with any of it.
>>1325836
because cures, preventatives and vaccines for VD all exist now
Ah yes, I forgot we can cure and vaccinate against AIDS now. Oh wait lol
My main point is despite all this modern technology, this shit still happens. People still get sick from dipping their disco stick too much and end up with kids that nobody wants.
>>1325848
Not at all, I just think people need to be more careful, even with all this modern technology for some people discretion has gone entirely out the window.
My views are probably tainted by the fact that abortion is illegal in my country (a law I have mixed feelings about but ultimately disagree with), so these issues are more pressing in my society than more "sexually liberated" places.
>condoms, being gay and divorce were all illegal here until the 90s
>laws I also would have disagreed with
>>1325871
>le summerfag meme
>>1321678
>Also when tits started being seen as something vulgar and to be covered and why?
When people noticed it is disgusting.
do you live in the real world or what?
>>1325878
>even with all this modern technology for some people discretion has gone entirely out the window.
Perhaps, but in general, I don't have trouble with people who had several partners, maybe that's for the best, people mature and settle down, but as a rule of thumb I thinks it's better to avoid promiscuous people, unless, perhaps you don't planning going beyond sexual relationship.
>>1325889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvUQcnfwUUM
To the question however, it again depends on religion and culture, many places have topless women today, central asia and melanesia mainly come to mind. In these societies, there was never anything inherently wrong or sexual with breasts, they had different cultural standards of what constitutes "lewd" or "prudish" behaviours.
>>1325878
>AIDS
Oh look, the easiest STD to prevent.
>>My main point is despite all this modern technology, this shit still happens. People still get sick from dipping their disco stick too much and end up with kids that nobody wants.
People being idiots who won't take proper precautions does not mean that said precautions are impossible or non-existent. So therefore I see no reason why I shouldn't be promiscuous.
>>1321678
Public Service Announcement:
You must be 18 years of age or older to post on 4chan. Please take your immature language back to the schoolyard.
>(inb4 perfectly valid questions, but your language detracts from the validity of the discussion.)
>>1322456
>no societies that have progressed into civilizations without a strict family structure.
How about Sparta since I suppose with that rhetoric you hold it in a high regard.
>>1325909
Besides, you're an adult. If you contract it, it's nobody's fault but your own.
How it's addressed is up to you though. Somebody may end up having to pay for your well-being in treating it. If that doesn't happen to be you or your most immediate support group, I think it's fair to say that you've been irresponsible and a drain to your community.
>>1325896
>in general, I don't have trouble with people who had several partners, maybe that's for the best, people mature and settle down, but as a rule of thumb I thinks it's better to avoid promiscuous people, unless, perhaps you don't planning going beyond sexual relationship.
Me neither, as long as my partner doesn't have any STDs I don't really care how many partners they've had before me. But yeah for a long term relationship it might matter a little more, but that's more to do with my concerns about their ability to form meaningful relationships with people; or how seriously they take sex as an expression of love between two people. As opposed to any biological reasoning.
>>1325909
I don't give a fuck dude, just don't come crying to me if something fucks up on your end.
I'm not one of those "this is how everyone else has to live their lives" people. I just think it's a tad irresponsible, but ultimately it's none of my business what other people do.
>>1325922
I'm also speaking coming from a country that does have a public health system (albeit a strained one), so again yes these are concerns that would factor into my worldview/opinions.
>>1325921
From what I read, family for Spartans was a different concept, children from early age get taken away, less bonding, and state becomes their "family or "mother" essentially.
>>1325801
>>1325470 here.
I'm not saying that the world should choose for polygamy. I'm saying that just ignoring how our sexuality works is stupidity. No matter how hard you try to deny it, nature's law is stronger than repression and will manifest itself in some way or another as trauma.
I find today's sexualisation repulsive too, but there is no reason to choose two extremes only, speacially if they are drived by insecurity.
>>1325964
So what do you think people should do, in order to reconcile the "natural order" with modern society?
Just not be butthurt when their partner cheats on them, or not cheat in the first place?
Or eliminate the concept of "cheating" altogether?
Or none of the above?
>guise, a woman's breast is revealed! what a slut!
fucking idiot.
>>1322597
>"if you don't support breast they start to sag" meme
> age and breastfeeding is what makes boobs sag. Old women who have worn bras their whole life STILL get saggy breasts. Young girls in savage tribes who have never touched a bra can still have perky tits (unless they're fucked but genetics and have dog-ear tits from puberty)
>>1325701
young girls dressed in tunics like the boys. Adult spartan women wore a dress that was open along the side, which earned them the nickname "leg-showers" from the athenians
>>1321678
Africaaaaaaa
I saw a picture of a tribal Berber woman with her tits hanging out. I can't find it right now but it was pretty lewd
>>1323035
they had bronze you know, that shit can get mad sharp cause it's relatively soft. You can even make them out of gold.
they shaved.
>>1321678
its actually pretty crazy how womens breasts are somehow something to be covered and mens breasts not
I guess it just comes from the fact that in most societies a man wouldnt want his wife to show her body off to other men
>>1322627
According to the lysistrata, Athenian women did in fact shave (or solder, I should say) their bushes. Spartan pussy was hairy tho
>>1322456
This was a pretty good shitposting. I actually thought you were serious until the end.
>>1325873
No, it's spanish
>>1322456
Fuck the west, let it crumble.
>>1327621
Yup. There's honestly nothing 'we' can do about Western civilisation. It's all the hallmarks of a declining civilisation, and although in its dying phase it will believe there is again a chance, there is not. Miracles don't happen
>>1326001
Just because that fucking whore you call your mother walks with her tits exposed does not mean it's socially acceptable behaviour in our times.
>>1325873
Spanish you ignorant slut
>>1321678
>When did tits start being seen as vulgar
In many places in the world they still aren't. OP makes it sound like everyone in the world was topless and then suddenly people came to their senses and realized nudity is wrong...
Newsflash: the story of Adam and Eve isn't based on historical evidence. Humanity didn't suddenly realize that nudity was "wrong" and started covering up. It just happens that one family of religions in Western asia hates nudity and obsesses with conservative clothing.
Now, on a lighter note: which famous women from history are verified to have large breasts? As in we know with 100% certainty that they were stacked.
>>1321678
It's a never ending cycle.....
By phase:
1. Bitches try to intentionally sexually incite males by dressing like whores.
2. Bitches complain about the men they intentionally sexually incited treating them like whores.
3. Bitches are no longer allowed to dress like whores to intentionally sexually incite men.
4. Bitches complain about not being able to dress like whores.
5. Bitches are allowed once again to dress like whores.
6. Cycle reverts back to 1.
The west is currently in phase 2 at the moment.
>>1328519
You mean 5.
>>1328519
If only you looked upon the shallowness of men the same way.
>>1328750
Back to tumblr.
>>1328754
Great come back alt-right.
>>1325826
It would cause a beta uprising.
>Harem of womens
>Men less likely to reproduce, jealously towards men who can
>>1328485
>Now, on a lighter note: which famous women from history are verified to have large breasts? As in we know with 100% certainty that they were stacked.
I remember seeing someone post an account from Joan d'Arc's squire on here once. Being a squire they had to help Joan d'Arc put on her armour, and they commented how it was a struggle because her chest was so large.
It could be bullshit but who knows.
I wish I wasn't a woman.
>>1328769
NOT THAT I'M THE DUDE YOU'RE QUOTING, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT NOBODY CALLED IT THAT UNTIL YOU TWATS CAME HERE
THERE IS NO REASON FOR YOU TO CONTINUE VISITING THIS WEBSITE IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MEN CRITICIZING WOMEN
BTW IT TAKES JUST AS MUCH EFFORT TO CALL YOU A TUMBLRITE AS IT DOES TO CALL ANON A CHAUVINIST
YOU EARN THOUGHTFUL COMEBACKS WHEN YOU DELIVER THOUGHTFUL INSULTS
YOU DESERVE CAPS LOCK
>>1329301
But you're not, so how can you wish away something you aren't?
>>1328750
Men are far more willing to make decisions that discriminate against themselves. as long as it benefits society, than woman are, so I don't know who the fuck you're trying to call "shallow".
Pic related....
![1463314801774-0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tyXhJz0.jpg "1463314801774-0[1].jpg")
>>1321822
i bet all those ancient figurines were all made by the cave dwelling virgin that never got to see any vagina...
in a far future archaelogists will think our women had huge spaced out eyes, small mouths and noseless faces after finding our hotglue'd figurines once mankind eventually destroys itself (and they will probably reach the conclusion we nearly wiped ourselves entirely because our females couldn't breed since their bodies were a complete disproportionated structural mess)
so stop taking all those venus figurines seriously, they weren't probably used like most people think
>>1329963
lmfao
>>1329963
it is natural for men like you to crave the validation of their existence and get depressed if they fail to feel relevant, responsible.
The best way for a man to cater his need for approval is to serve some woman (and some of her children) through emotional&financial support.
Men are pleased to contribute to someone else life, to support their family.
Why women are a good way to feel relevant? Because women love to be provided for and each woman will always find a man ready to please her.
[for most men, the best feeling of feeling real is when the girl moans from your cock in her pussy]
THe problem for men is that they are disposable in the eyes of each woman, since all men wish to serve the few women who talk to them.
Men must thus invent several ways to please women, invention and creativity which strengthen their feeling of being worthy, relevant, in touch with reality.
Men are too impotent to find other way to feel real.
Once that the a woman replaces a man by another provider, the man gets very upset and depressed.
THis leads men to think that they are better than women, stronger, smarter and that they must built a life outside women. Some men manage to indeed built an empire, but they will always loose it for some women.
Women give meaning to men and betas, no matter how successful outside women, will always give up everything for some relationship with some woman who claim to fancy them.
