How aware were German soldiers of the "moral" implications of fighting for Germany? I don't want to be a "bad guys and good guys of history" sort of poster, but I mean did most German soldiers share a hatred of jews? How were they convinced that the allies were the enemy/convinced to fight if Germany were accused as being the aggressors?
Was it pride and hype? Would you say there were many just fighting for their homeland and little else?
>>1319717
The easiest thing to do here is to just go read Requiem for a German Past. The situation is too complex to explain on 4Chan and there were a lot of nuances for individuals vs. the nation as a whole.
I would say that two broad types could be seen. There were guys who were seemingly mainly fighting for their country and fellow soldiers, and guys who fed into the ideology/propaganda and fought for that. There's more to it than that though and its difficult to make broad generalizations because everyone had their own reasons for fighting.
Source: I actually did the senior research paper for my degree on "Morale and Motivation of German Soldiers on the Eastern Front from 22 June 1941 to Winter 42/43".
The main point for the eastern front was the fact that if the ussr finished mobilizing and took revenge upon the Germans for ww1 they would be completely desimated. Which was true.
>>1319717
Germans were not brought up on a bourgeois morality.
For them it was a concept similar to "manifest destiny";Landnahme taking the land of the slavs to ensure the future of the germanic people
>>1319717
>Followed a doctrine of Auftragstaktik (Mission Type Tactics: Commander will only issue one goal and a time table and leave the details of execution up to the men)
>Told by their commanders to do whatever it took and that ultimate responsibility would be on them alone.
>In the east they were fighting an enemy that did not abide to the Geneva convention, making mercy on their part a luxury they could not afford.
>Filled with a decade of constant propaganda pumped in their impressionable mind by the political elite.
>Under a personal loyalty to the Fuhrer before the people
>Fueled on Pertivin, making them susceptible to commit sloppy war crimes level crimes
>>1319717
>did most German soldiers share a hatred of jews?
Yes, but then again, can you really blame them?
>>1319717
The hatred of the Jews stems from the German Revolution.
Imagine if a bunch of Jewish communists overthrew the Bavarian government in the middle of German's (at the time) darkest hour? The German Jew was the most integrated Jewish minority in all of Europe with tens of thousands dying for the Kaiser during the war.
Before the Nazis, everyone thought a slaughter would occur in Spain, Russia or France. It was inconceivable that Germany would do it. After the revolution, all this goodwill was erased and the fear of Jews bringing communist revolution was on, making it permissible for the Freikorps, Stahlhelm and eventually the National Socialists to exist. A minority of total cunts ruined it for every other upstanding Jew.
History, it seems, is repeating itself.
For the common German, hatred of Jews took a backseat to restoring German power and pride. Hitler just upped the ante with the propaganda that existed ever since Imperial Germany times, with the story that the British Empire was actively trying to keep the Germans down and that Britain was determined to crush German power at all costs. To the average German, WWI and WWII were both started by English perfidy and jealousy.
WWII was a war the common German did not want but they saw it as inevitable. The prevailing mentality was "we're sending our sons to this second war started by the Anglo-Jews, if we don't win this one, our grandchildren will have to go through a third war." Fortunately, most of the world didn't follow a tradition of Prussian militarism so there wasn't ever a third war.
>>1320239
related
>Caption: We, the “have-nots...”
>46 million Britons control over 40 million square kilometers of land — stolen by brute force in every part of the world! That is more than a quarter of all the inhabitable space on earth!
>86 million Germans on the other hand must earn their daily bread from 600,000 square kilometers, and should even have to ask the London plutocratic clique for permission to do that!
>We, the German “have-nots” fight for our food — and what about the British exploiter caste? — They fight for dividends at the cost of the blood of the peoples — but for the last time !!!
>>1320239
>Fortunately, most of the world didn't follow a tradition of Prussian militarism so there wasn't ever a third war.
I will never under this meme. Prussians fucking hated Hitler. Every single fucking plot to kill Hitler was designed and orchestrated by Prussians. The whole "Prussia is at fault for both wars and not Germany!" is a piece of revisionist bullshit to absolve Germany of guilt for WWI and restore their favor in the eyes of the West during the Cold War. No more, no less.
>>1320377
I'm not talking about PrussianS, I'm talking about Prussian militarism adopted by the German Empire which was very pervasive in comparison to other European countries. Even before both world wars, Germany had the most thriving arms industry in Europe and was constantly churning out weapons at a much higher rate than anyone else.
This was a country that was created as a result of winning relatively easy wars. It's not hard to understand why Prussian militarism translated into a German culture where war was seen as an easy way to achieve political objectives.
>>1320278
BEADY
>>1320388
>It's not hard to understand why Prussian militarism translated into a German culture where war was seen as an easy way to achieve political objectives
Except Germany actively avoided war between 1871 and 1914. There were multiple chances to go to war to achieve political objectives, and they even lost out on some because they didn't go to war (such as during the Tangiers Crisis). It's a revisionist meme.
>>1320388
>Even before both world wars, Germany had the most thriving arms industry in Europe and was constantly churning out weapons at a much higher rate than anyone else
They also exported their weapons at a much higher rate than anyone else which facilitated the armament manufacturing. Almost every Latin American country bought arms and training from Germany. The Qing and Japanese both bought arms made by Krupp and Mauser. A British lieutenant rather infamously blew his top at the German expedition during the Boxer War since every artillery piece they captured was German made. (Source: The Great Game and the Boxer War in China by David Silbey) Armament manufacturing is extremely cheap and profitable, especially when you have loads of iron, coal and lumber on hand like Germany did. It doesn't necessarily imply militarism. Look at fucking Austria and Belgium for shits sake. They compose a large part of global weapons manufacturing for military use and they're not considered militaristic.
>>1319717
Hatred of Jews was hardly new in Europe, but the brand preached by the Nazis was a fresh take that reflected the uncertain political times and populist rhetoric. Germans, with the exception of Nazi members, were either apathetic or saw Jews in political terms as painted by the Nazi rhetoric - not by racial characteristics, culture or faith - but by what they were meant to represent to Germany and her enemies. The less you cared about politics or the Nazis, the less you cared about the fate of the Jews and what was being said of them - apathy, not just virulent hatred is what led to the Holocaust.
Another contributing factor to apathy was the difference between German/Western Jews and Eastern European Jews. German Jews were the most assimilated, making it hard for their German neighbors to really believe they were being sent to die - they couldn't imagine the purpose of the Nazi rhetoric was THAT genocidal. Eastern European Jews made up the vast majority of European Jewry, and these included many traditional communities living in relative isolation and not at all the all encompassing elite.
When the Einsatzgruppen marched through Eastern Europe, soldiers and witnesses realized they were fighting two different kinds of Jews - the kind painted by the Nazis as the internationalist, communist, parasite undermining the Aryan race - and pious, poor, Yiddish speaking simple folk living in the countryside. The Nazis declared war on the former, but ended up killing way more of the latter.
When we talk about "they didn't know", it really conveys the shock realizing the harsh brutality on the Eastern Front was intimately related to the domestic populist rhetoric on the Jews. German soldiers, raised to be obedient to a fault, recognized this but could not and would not do anything about it. Some genuinely believed the rhetoric, but most went along in fear of repercussions - not for disobeying orders but in fear that if evidence got out they would be punished.
>>1320220
>People who tried to liberate Germany were total cunts
Okay, Porky
>>1320220
>The hatred of the Jews stems from the German Revolution.
It goes WAAAAY before that
Like centuries.
People keep saying this "antisemitism started because of X on X date" and ignore all the pogroms, expulsions, decrees and discrimination imposed throughout history for a score of allegations, ranging from killing Christ to blood libels. You can believe all you want that Jews and (Jews alone as a function of Jewish identity) were behind communism - and Jews were involved - but realize that this simplifies to a horrific degree the ever changing character of Jew hatred.
Mind you, tens of thousands of GERMAN Jews fought for the Kaiser in WW1 only to be "stabbed in the back" in 1933 - far more than what one would expect given the history of Jews in Germany and what believers in the Dolchstoßlegende would hold. German Jews wanted to be Germans first - and ditched their religion in favor of gaining social acceptance.
But when you say the German Revolution of 1918 was a Jewish plot - you not only gloss over the actual history, groups involved and most importantly, their motivations - and find a simple answer that needs no further explanation. In this distortion, it minimizes the German aspect of the revolution, as if Germans were devoid of political motivation and were a neutral monolith, led astray by Jewish lies and not by their own beliefs. It shows that you have no knowledge of the history beyond a memeified distortion that needs no explanation.
The core of all antisemitism is the belief in a conspiracy that all Jews are fundamentally involved - and seeks to deprive them of agency and identity by targeting ALL Jews - regardless of their actual involvement in capitalism/communism/feminism/multiculturalism or whether they are assimilated or not. Zionism became popular for this exact reason - no matter how patriotic, contributing or assimilated a Jew is, society will always find a reason to reject them.
>>1319717
They were mainly fighting against Bolshevism.
https://youtu.be/LQdDnbXXn20
Realise that Rosa Luxemburg, with her attempt at a Communist revolution, and her and most of her cronies bring Jewish
Probably instilled a lot of hate and distrust towards Jews in most Germans.
So most Wehrmacht soldier probably went.
>Ach, theze bloody Communist Schweine
>Friedrich, why iz it that zo many Juice are among there leaders?
>I zon't know, Hans. Just keep firing
>>1320666
>liberate
found le champion of the proletariat
>>1319717
>How aware were German soldiers of the "moral" implications of fighting for Germany?
Soldiers don't fight for "Germany", or for "Merica'", or "freedom", or any of that other bullshit.
They fight for each other.
>>1320397
From Germany's perspective, it would've been suicide to go to war before 1914. Prussia and her allies had defeated Austria and France, not Germany. To go to war in that early stage would've been disastrous for a country that was just getting started.
>>1320491
Good points, but Germany was ridiculously strong at the outbreak of WWI even with the massive exporting of weapons. You don't amass a shit ton of artillery pieces, enough to outnumber Britain, France and Russia combined if you aren't actively preparing for potential conflicts. Out of all the major European countries on the eve of WWI, Germany was the most prepared for war.
I think people have bought into the counter-arguments too strongly, that Germany wasn't the perpetrator of WWI and that German militarism was British propaganda. While Germany does not deserve to bear 100% responsibility and was not the totalitarian militarist state the British said it was, WWI would not have happened if Germany had not existed. There's a reason for that that doesn't exactly correlate with militarism, but militarism plays a part for why the war unfolded the way it did.
>>1320738
Prussia and her allies WERE Germany. Regardless, Germany was more than prepared for war in 1897 during the Somoan Crisis, during Tangiers in 1905, again during the Agadir Crisis in 1911. If they had been militaristic as you state they would have gone to war, but instead they actively sought a peaceful solution. In fact, France was far more militaristic with their revanchism than Germany had been in both cases when it came to Morocco, sending troops to seize territory both times.
>>1320738
>You don't amass a shit ton of artillery pieces, enough to outnumber Britain, France and Russia combined if you aren't actively preparing for potential conflicts
I want you to explain the United States before 1917 which I'd wager you wouldn't label militaristic. The US had absolutely no intention of joining the war and the majority of the country felt the same even on the eve of entrance into the war. There's such thing as active defense for preparation that does not necessarily note militarism.
>>1320702
>"Germans only hated Jews because of Communism!" meme
>"Ze brave Germans fought willingly and were not at all forced to die en masse in a hopeless war they started"
>Brainwashed vets regurgitating Nazi propaganda secure in the knowledge that they wont be punished for speaking their mind
>"Jews can only be Jews, not <nationality> because Jews" circular non argument
>Cringy fake german sounding gibberish and /v/ tier knowledge of history
Watch the edge, /pol/
>>1320799
>"Jews can only be Jews, not <nationality> because Jews" circular non argument
You realize that historically Jews do assimilate, correct? It does not matter where the jews ended up during the diaspora, they always retained their Jewishness as their prominent identity. It doesn't matter if it was Rome, Spain, Poland, Germany, Russia, The U.S. England, whatever. Jew first, nationality second. That's the way it has always been. It's the way it will always be.
>>1320811
Any why do you think Jews were not assimilated? And if not being assimilated is adequate justification for persecution, why did societies continue to put up ever higher barriers to assimilation rather than just assimilate them? Also explain this theory in the context of American Jewry, where the growing trend is towards full assimilation and intermarriage.
>Jews stick together much more strongly because of historical persecution on top of shared cultural identity.
>Educated Western Jews want to assimilate but can't because of arbitrary laws and persecution
>Jews given right to assimilate do so enthusiastically - EG most of Western Europe up until WW2.
>Majority of observant Jews forced to live in ghettos and Pale of Settlement for centuries
>Non Jewish society tells both to fuck off with blanket conspiracy theories, violence and puts up barriers to entering society
>Assimilated Jews still face persecution challenging their loyalty despite jumping through all hoops and humiliations to prove themselves
>Double standards placed on national identity (A Catholic and a Protestant could call themselves German, but a Jew was forbidden from using the title).
>Jews can't win no matter what and their lack of assimilation is invariably blamed on themselves
Protip: Zionism exists precisely because European Jews were persecuted even after being integrated and assimilated.
>>1320783
>litaristic with their revanchism than Germany had been in both cases when it came to Morocco, sending troops to seize territory both times.
Think about those situations, though. Would the German public accept going to war for those reasons? They're not even comparable in importance to the 1914 Balkan crisis. Militarism doesn't mean you're a bumbling retard invading someone when you don't get your way.
>I want you to explain the United States before 1917 which I'd wager you wouldn't label militaristic. The US had absolutely no intention of joining the war and the majority of the country felt the same even on the eve of entrance into the war. There's such thing as active defense for preparation that does not necessarily note militarism.
You mean the United States that was so woefully underequipped upon entering the war they had to resort to British and French weaponry? Thank you for proving my point about German militarism. Please look up the definition before you post.
>>1320733
This guy gets it.
>>1320897
>Would the German public accept going to war for those reasons?
Would the German public accept going to war over a scrap of nothing in the Balkans?
>they had to resort to British and French weaponry?
What. This is one of the most wrong things I have heard on /his/ today and I watched that guy claim you couldn't sail from Sicily to Sardinia. The only foreign weapon the U.S. used en masse was the Chauchat. They furnished their own rifles, primarily the 1903 Springfield and used the 1917 Browning and 1915 Colt-Vickers for machine guns using the chauchat as supplement. The only time U.S. soldiers used non-American equipment outside of the chauchat was when they were in Britain for training and when some of the troops were intermixed with Entente divisions during the Spring Offensive.
>>1320799
A nice distortment of my post.
Keep going if it makes you happy.
>>1321108
I'm not talking about just small arms, of which yes the Americans had a decent amount of. I'm talking about things like heavy artillery which was far, far more important than rifles. It would be easier to take a trench with men armed with spades supported by heavy artillery than riflemen without any heavy artillery support.
Using small arms as a metric of wartime readiness will lead you to make incorrect assumptions. If the US Army had been studying the events of the Western Front (and they were) and had capacity for total war as a top priority, they would've lobbied for much heavier pre-war investment and manufacturing of heavy artillery, machine guns and steel helmets.
>>1320811
>Jew first, nationality second. That's the way it has always been. It's the way it will always be.
That's not assimilation.
>>1320666
>communism
>liberation
Hahahahaha
>>1320666
>commies
>liberate
>pick one
Regardless, like many socialist or communist revolutions, they were lead by a core intelligentsia of jews.
>>1320799
>virtue signaling this hard
Look, an entire post of nothing but saying someone is wrong by simply summarizing their argument as something known to be wrong
>>1320699
I didn't say that Jewish-German relations were perfect, but they were on the upswing until the revolution occurred.
I thought about what I read in "Hatred: the psychology of violence" it seems that once you overcome your "limit, getting into a pogrom, for instance this one, http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Jedwabne_pogrom
a cop , reported that he felt a shock over feeling that he could have not ever done it again and yet he did, is kinda like the Batman's no kill rule, where he fears that it may bring him into a rampage, or how nuclear weapons could have been justified into becoming conventional, we risked that very often, Korea, with Cipro and Greek, Cuba's missile crisis, ecc
(quote from the book)
>One day, in July 1941, half of the population of Jedwabne, Poland, murdered the other half—some 1,600 men, women, and children representing all but 7 of the town’s Jews. Before killing them, the Poles tortured and humiliated the Jews. They gouged out their eyes with kitchen knives, dismembered them with crude farm instruments, and drowned the women in shallow waters. Infants were pitchforked in front of their mothers and thrown onto burning coals, all accompanied by the shrieks of delight, indeed the laughter, of their neighbors.
The slaughter of the Jedwabne Jews lasted a whole day. And their neighbors, the entire Polish population of the town, either witnessed or participated in the torment. Roughly 50 percent of the adult Polish males were later identified by name as active participants. Even in Nazi Germany whole communities of “normal” people did not rise up to destroy their neighbors. They mostly left that to the professionals while they passively assented—crime enough. In Poland an entire community voluntarily butchered their neighbors and delighted in the activity.
There was the Milgram experiment, done to explain how could it happen, but Milgram was not impartial and let the data speaks what he wanted so there is hardly a reliable account of that.
>>1322893
What do you think non-whites want to do to whites in white nations?
Same shit.
>>1322939
So the slave, even the one who perceives to be the slave, does not dream to be free but to be the master?
I think at this point you can either attempt to do two things, 1 create an Us vs Them mentality to defend yourself, 2) Consider everyone equal, but still strike them down with the hammer of justice like everyone else and when is needed.
>>1319717
This is pure speculation, but I doubt they'd have cared all that much, even if they did know.
A few months back, I read Bomber Command, by Max Hastings, and in one of the appendixes in the back, he has a table of British Bomber crews responses to various morale surveys taken throughout the war.
And for a question concerning any ethical concerns with dropping bombs on civilians, the answers are pretty much all "meh, don't care" right up until 1945, at which point people having problems with it shoots up through the sky.
And while he doesn't directly supply an answer, from the rest of the book it's pretty clear: As long as you were facing a pretty significant risk of being shot down every time you flew over a German city, the moral implications of hitting the enemy were a very distant concern. It's only when the danger lessens, and you can stop and think about whether or not you're really doing the right thing, that you start to get head cases.
I can't imagine German soldiers being that different from British bomb crews. As long as they were facing the guns of the enemy, that's just not an important concern, not next to survival.
>>1323115
>concerning any ethical concerns with dropping bombs on civilians, the answers are pretty much all "meh, don't care"
well was that the average answer for most of the questions?
cause that sounds like it could just be lazy mandatory survey work to me.
>>1323244
>well was that the average answer for most of the questions?
I don't have my copy in front of me (traveling for work) but I don't think so. A lot of it had to do with morale issues, and generally, you got a fair number of complaints for most of the war out of the bomber crews. And if it was lazy survey questioning, you'd think it would be odd that it suddenly shot up when it did.
>>1320278
This seems like the greatest German frustration, the english had built their empire through conquest over centuries; then at the start of the 20th century they said "the world should be a more peaceful place..oh and by the way we really like the status quo, so if you try to upset it we'll kick your ass."
>>1323021
>Consider everyone equal
That's just it, the western white "equality" fantasy exists solely in western white nations because we're the only ones with a population brainwashed to be self loathing idiots.
You think they believe that bullshit in Africa and Asia or South America?
No. They don't.
So when they invade our lands, it's just a matter of time until they acquire a majority population and tell the whites to go fuck themselves and demand self rule.
That's what's going to happen in the southwest of the U.S. with all the fucking Mexicans that have invaded, and that's what's going to happen in Europe with all the fucking Muslims those dumb asses are taking in.
Meanwhile, Muslim lands are remaining Muslim, and Latino lands south of the U.S. border are remaining Latino...
>>1323648
That equality is in our laws, national and international (in case of Europe), that cant be changed, each nation under Europe has to adapt.
>>1323828
>That equality is in our laws
Not when "hate crime" laws exist for the majority but not the minority.
Not when lawful discrimination exists against the majority, but not the minority.
Not when lawful discrimination exists against males, but not females.
Not when immigration law discriminates against majority ethnicities in favor of minorities.
"Equality" is nothing but a bullshit ruse used to brainwash the majority masses to go against their own best interests, and it's worked like a charm in the west.
Our governments continue to represent minority interests at the expense of the majority, and our supposed "institutions of higher learning" are little more than leftist indoctrination centers of self loathing and self destruction.
You don't see this bullshit in non-white nations, because they haven't been castrated and made to be self loathing eunuchs, and willingly ushering in their own destruction.
>>1323967
>You don't see this bullshit in non-white nations
But we have to remember for instance that being Christian in the middle east puts you in great danger, the Arab Emirates to name one that should be civilized is not a Democracy (though they want Syria to be one how funny) and they claim to have 100% of the population believing in Islam.
Or think about the turmoils in Egypt in these years, all around Africa, I think you are being dishonest not counting what it entails to live here, which does not negate any actual wrongdoing on the behalf of its citizen, but you make it sound like the first world has it worse.
>>1323648
>the Irish are remaining Irish and will obey the pope when he tells them to destroy Protestantism
>the Italians are remaining Italian and bringing the mafia and will obey the pope
>the Japanese are remaining Japanese and are certainly traitors who work in secret with the Japanese Empire
>>1319739
Would you mind uploading it? Could make for interesting reading. You can scrub it of identify it you'd like
>>1321108
>couldn't sail from Sicily to Sardinia
he was joking retard, it's a reference to a civ game
>>1319717
Most German soldiers generally subscribed to all or most of prejudices that were persistent in the civilian society. The contempt for Slavs and suspicion of Jews were more or less present in Germany for long centuries before the war. The desire for Germany to be "great" and "respected" as well as feeling that Germany had been wronged at Versailles were pretty much also widespread.
>>1323318
That's the frustration the entire planet has. The west pulled ahead with hideously violent and destructive practices and once they'd cemented their position on top of the pile they used their military and economic might to stop anyone from following in their tracks. A surprising and potent argument against industry regulations comes from developing nations who's industry is strangled by Western regulations put on them. The destructive methods are the cheapest and most effective for nations with little money but lots of shit. The west won't help them or find them and sanctions them if they use those methods while using their economic superiority to use nicer methods that don't violate their arbitrary standards to extract resources. They use the UN to shut down military expansion closing that Avenue of development while using their own military to vassalize anyone they want.
It's fucking clever.
>>1320377
>Prussians fucking hated Hitler.
>>1325806
By the West you mean really the US. If France wanted to conquer Tunisia, the US would bomb Paris in a heartbeat.
>>1325831
Except France already has its hooks in Tunisia and Libya and Mali and other former colonies. It's not as overt as forcing them to fly the tricolor but it's there.
>>1320377
If this is true (and I'm not saying it isn't), why was there such a concentrated effort by the Allies to completely destroy the state of Prussia after WWII?
>>1325888
Its because the way the other countries saw it, the way Germany was different from every other European power was due to how their nobility and the mentality of obeying the higher ups never really had their power curbed, and in their minds that was what had caused the rise of Nazism.
>>1325806
A fair point, but I also think that Western science caused "the West" to realize that the practices they had used over the centuries were incredibly destructive to the environment, and that if other countries started doing that too, wildlife would die en masse and we (all of humanity) could be facing an ecological catastrophe. I agree that the current Western condemnation of violence is somewhat hypocritical, but I don't think it's entirely self-interest that industry regulations are imposed; it's also experience with the human and ecological cost of past practices.
>>1319739
would love to see that paper
>>1319717
This is from a soldier who transported German prisoners in N. Africa & had a conversation with one of them.
The prisoner said he was fighting against British expansionism which was strange because the allied soldier was told he was fighting against German expansionism.
However the global expansionism was evident in only one.
>>1319717
My grandpa, born 1925 was a wehrmacht soldier, he worked on a relay truck relaying messages etc.
He was drafted at age 18 and trained to sign messages. He told me that during training they had to be able to relay a certain amount of words per minute. If you didn't meet that quota you'd be given a field transmitter and most of those people were shipped to the eastern front.
He was good enough (worked at a post office before the war and after), and was taught to drive a truck. He told me that his CO made him crawl underneath the truck anytime the engine stalled. (He still drives at age 91)
He was in occupied France.
He said that almost everyone knew the war was lost by the time the allies landed in Normandy. He and his fellow soldiers were scrambled to stop the invasion, which didn't work. Morale and rations were low.
He later fought in the Battle of the Bulge and narrowly escaped death while they were caught in a pincer move by US troops, he had burned his truck and had to run across US lines. There was a 100 meter gap were the germans had broken trough and some fellow soldiers pulled him on a tank while the US troops fired from both sides.
He surrendered a few weeks later (he still has the leaflets dropped promising a good treatment when surrendering). He was interned for a few months, he was very malnourished at that point. He hitched a ride home on a truck carrying butter and ate about a pound, he was ill the next three months.
The thing he found most horrifying was the sound horses made after being injured by shrapnel or machineguns. Since the Wehrmacht relied on horses for transports there were lots of them and they got injured a lot when supply lines were attacked. He grew up on a farm so he was close to animals.
He also told me they were warned not to hang out with french girls, girls would promise sex and when soldiers followed, they were killed by the resistance. He told me he turned down a threesome.
>>1327846
Sounds like cool guy, treasure your conversations with him
>>1325822
Allow me to rephrase, the Prussian Junker class, which the so called militarism came from, hated Hitler. Proles were less than irrelevant to Prussia. Even after the Hottentot election of 1907 they didn't give a shit about them.
>>1327846
>>1327846
Ah fuck all dem feels
