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What went wrong?
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>>1307212

You.
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>>1307212
The lazy Spaniard could never seriously compete with the perfidious Anglo.
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> steal 70000 tons of gold
> bankrupt 70000 of times
How this is even possible?
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The same shit that got the British Empire
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>>1307219
That is what happens to empires.

The elite get rich for a while, then people eventually fight back.
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Maybe Spain should have conquered more places in Africa and not so much in South America
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Too few population to sustain such a large empire. It's important to mention that Spanish lands aren't very good for agriculture.
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Inflation was literally not a known thing when they had their empire. All their gold was used to buy goods from outside Spain and killed nascent industries. Catholicism also did its part, with the Kings spending a stupid amount of resources in wars with no strategic value to defend christianity
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>>1307219
Spanish speakers like expensive shit.
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>>1307212
Maybe having a inbred line of rulers that eventually ended with no viable heirs that lead to a massive conflict for the Spanish throne. I don't know.
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>muh inflation
Spain was still a great power by 1800, what really fucked it up was napoleon's invasion which led to the sudden losses of the americans colonies coupled with not being able to catch up with france and england during the industrial revolution
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>>1307212
>That map

This is even better than the Ottomans in Iceland.
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>>1307237
They couldn't because of the treaty of Tordesillas.
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>>1307214
Tordesillas only applied to Americas, didn't it?
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>>1307212
Explain why China and majority of Europe including GB is marked as spanish territory wtf
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>>1307237
This is the stupidest thing I have read today.
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The Perferdious Albinon
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>>1307892
Phillip II was regent King of England.
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>>1307212
Inbred royalty fucktards
Hidalgo culture, siesta culture
Bourbons
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>>1307892
Europe can be explained as the Hapsburg Dynasty...
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>>1307886
No. In east asia it was ignored because they didn't know that well where the portuguese and the spanish part start, but in Africa it was pretty clear.
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>>1307886
No
East of line = Portugal (that included Africa)
West of line = Spain
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>>1307921
Europe was hardly in Asia, sans some shithole islands, during the 17th century.

Spanishboos pls leave.
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>>1307892
Probably alt-history since all India has the same color as the americas.
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>>1307212
They were too honourable and zealous. They were trying to spread the word everywhere, by the sword if necessary, instead of making profit. That's why they threw all the gold to the thrash to continue fighting in unprofitable wars.

Look at the massive blob that the spanish empire is and compare it to the british or the portuguese ones, where everything is more calculated to get strategical, profitable or at least useful zones.
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>>1307932
Some spaniards planned to invade China along with Japan and Portugal, but the king refused to fund it.

Would probably have failed though, unless the attack was perpetrated in a moment of instability. The map is alt-history.
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>>1307929
Then why did Spain colonized Africa to some extend? Was it considered as disobeying Tordessilas?
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>>1307962
Those posessions around Gibraltar, Ceuta and Morocco were already part of the spanish empire before the treaty of Tordesillas
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>>1307973
And what about Arguin and whole West Sahara?
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>>1307962
Ignore the other dudes. Tordesillas (actually, a previous treaty, Tordesillas being the correction) was an adittion to a previous agreement where everything south of the Canary Islands was Portuguese.
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>>1307998
Also arguin was portuguese and the west sahara colony was established in the 19th century when Tordesillas was not relevant at all anymore.
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>>1308003
This, it actually was Alcaçovas Treaty, not Tordesillas that claimed Portugese land in Africa
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>>1307973
All these (except Gibraltar) were Portuguese.
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>>1307212
Iglesia and borbones
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>>1308059
Not all, Melilla was never portuguese and neither were other cities conquered by the spaniards under Cisneros like Orán.
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>>1308078
This, fuck Iglesias, that damned commie.
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>>1308108
Why is he such a psycho?
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NOT ENOUGH FRANCO. THAT IS WHAT WENT WRONG
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The moneylenders found a new bottom bitchl
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Charles V killed the industry and along with his successors wasted gold and manpower in foreign and useless wars

And then Fernando VII just did about everything wrong
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>>1308123
His experience as a low-tier pornstar traumatized him.
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