>Revolutionary War
The british were the good guys.
>>1305184
I agree.
>>1305197
Same guy who said I'd agree with the British ruling over us Americans, but they shouldn't have taken guns away.
I agree with everything else they did with the Americans though. Not ashamed to say that.
>>1305184
They have always been and always will be.
>taxation without representation
>>1305184
Good guys don't lose
>>1305217
This meme needs to die
>these many empire shills
>>1305237
>the same people who can't understand why the colonists didn't want to be governed from across the Atlantic during the age of sail are often the ones trying to wrest free of a government in Brussels during the age of fiber optic
>>1305225
i bet the poster doesn't even realise how ironic that pic is
>>1305257
>he's rich and rich people are bad so that means he's trying to buy america
Tories, everyone
>>1305225
>Good guys don't lose
>USA lost the Vietnam war
>Germany lost WW1
I could go on
>>1305184
Objectively true.
England was dragging the colony into European wars and was keeping Americans from settling new land. It was a cut and dry conflict of interests that wasn't helped by the English taxing the people with the greatest ability to rile up the masses.
>>1305287
>England thinks it isn't hated universally
>>1305287
DELET THIS
>>1305184
Funny thing Britain gotten more revenue from America than when they were a colony.
>>1305295
they don't have England on the list
just Australia, New Zealand, and Canada
>>1305295
I'm not English, I love the UK
>>1305184
The problem wasn't taxation, it was taxation without representation. In America, or another democratic country today, if you really hate paying taxes, you can certainly vote for a candidate whose platform involves reduced or eliminated taxes. But when you don't have political representation, that's not an option.
>>1305237
If you feel a need to overthrow the government, why would the 2nd amendment make any difference? Fighting against the government means you'll be thrown in jail or worse if you get caught, so what difference does it make if guns are illegal? The sentence for illegal gun ownership will be the LEAST of your problems.
>>1305269
He calls himself anti-establishment, but he's a member of the closest thing America has to an aristocracy. He's only "anti-establishment" in the sense that the rest of our "aristocracy" doesn't want him in charge.
>>1305276
Neither of those were the good guys though.
>>1305287
>being pampered British bitches
>not rebelling and ruling the world
How pleb can you get?
>>1305287
>Australian
>good accent
>>1305276
Germany and the Ottoman Empire are the only two countries to have mass murdered civilians during WW1
They certainly weren't "the good guys"
>>1305303
Ok Scotcuck
>>1305308
>Muh no taxation without representation
>Dogging your mates
Americans are Jewish backstabbing traitors who turned on their ally.
>>1305287
>Not multiparty
>Universal healthcare = quality healthcare
>not very high hdi
>livability isn't a spook
>annual
>attractive
>50%
>whiteness isn't a spook
>proper grammar
>insurgency
Aside from that it's accurate.
>Start reading books about the British perspective about the war
>expecting a history about how Americans are ungrateful assholes that can't pay denbts
>Get a bunch of stories about how the revolving door prime ministers and how the entire politics before and during the war was in complete clusterfuck (that and bleeding heart liberals that supported the rebels)
seriously the Revolutionary war for Britain was like the Vietnam war for America.
>>1305312
Canadian actually
>>1305318
Even worse, leaf
>>1305314
What did he mean by this?
>>1305326
>>1305307
>The problem wasn't taxation, it was taxation without representation
not even about that
it was about HOW they would pay off the debt
you had the guys that were competent on how colonial economics worked and then you had the guys in London that weren't. That and the colonists wanted Indian land.
>>1305313
>th-the empire was friends, guys, even if they looked down on you and didn't respect your autonomy!
>>1305287
Oyy wanae fuck mee cunnee?
>>1305287
Like we all dont know U-S-A is better in all ways compared to those shit holes
>>1305348
>He can literally be called an unfit parent, lose custody and almost be brought up on charges for refusing to buy his wifes son a happy meal
>Better
hahaha
>>1305334
>T-they spawned our country and defend us but they wanted taxes and like, Nah. Let's brutalize our allies because muh shekels!
Amerijews
>I bleed green with my oppressed Irish brothers! Fuck Britain, remember the revolution!
>>1305318
Why are Canadians such Britaboos, you're suppose to side with us.
>>1305371
>they spawned our country
No, we left so we could form our own government in North America. We were here to stay so later they came over and tried to stretch out the crown over our heads, and they got lead for it.
>>1305286
Didnt Washington's actions drag Britain into an american war with the French? The cost of said war then leading to taxation of the colonies?
>>1305404
>No
Yes, the 13 colonies.
>we left
*Betrayed
>and they got lead for it
F-france help! Our allies are oppressing us. They are fighting a war over seas and need a negligible amount of taxes to help. Let's betray them!
>>1305420
What is your point?
>>1305379
Fucking irishmen
>>1305424
You retard, left didn't mean the independence, it meant leaving the shithole that is Britain behind in general and sailing over the sea. They didn't do that, they just decided to make arbitrary divisions in the colonies that we built. Then they decided that after almost two centuries of autonomy they were going to run lobsterbacks all over the place and try to regulate our trade. What do you expect is gonna happen?
>>1305440
>Britain colonizes a landmass and has some of it's ambitious citizens settle there on land the crown owns but god forbid they pay the crown some taxes
>We HAD to resort to terrorism!
lmao
>>1305388
>exploded Toronto back in the day
>steals our oil
>fucking NAFTA
Yeah nah.
>>1305447
>Britain colonizes a landmass
I guess drawing lines on a map to claim areas where your (former) citizens decided to settle and build a new society requires more hard work and deserves more respect than actually going and doing the hard work. Colonists came first anyway, it's not like Britain landed flags in places and had the authority to give their people "permission" to go live there.
>>1305235
Its not a meme. Its the law
>>1305431
> in 1754, a 22-year-old lieutenant colonel of the Virginia militia named George Washington successfully defeats a party of French and Indian scouts in southwest Pennsylvania as Virginia attempts to lay claim to the territory for its own settlers. The action snowballed into a world war
>>1305490
>Britain then proceeds to turn a colonial border dispute into a full-fledged conquest of Canada
>>1305478
>'s not like Britain landed flags in places and had the authority to give their people "permission" to go live there.
You're right, Illegal immigrants from Mexico shouldn't need permission either. They should throw a revolution.
>>1305307
>Neither of those guys were good
Are you serious right now (commie detected) I literally can't tell if your shitposting or just retarded.
>>1305522
A conquest in which it took them a fucking decade to beat a tiny force they outnumbered 4 to 1
As a result, they had to raise taxes, which eventually lead to the revolt
Tl;dr: Washington started the war that forced Britain to raise taxes and then lead the revolt against these taxes
>>1305526
Difference is Brits didn't own North America when people moved there. It wasn't part of their country so what gives them the right to say who can and can't live there?
>>1305490
Yes, and?
Washington wasn't the US of A. He was a officer in the English army serving English interests, fighting in a war founded on an animosity between France and England.
>>1305486
Nigger when you're country need to pay it's debt it needs to raise taxes the only taxes that the English actually enforce was the tax on tea and of course the but hurt rich people that mostly paid for tea got mad just because the tea was "too expensive". Your were also given representation since you were consider british citizens every tax and law a british person obeyed in England was also applied in the Colonies.
>>1305542
That's how colonization works dummbie. Those Mexicans could make the same argument for California and texas because they owned it prior to you. Subtle difference being Mexicans weren't your allies. The Brits were. You backstabbed them.
>>1305490
>Fails to mention that there was already a war going on in Europe, the 7-Years War
>Fails to mention that this was just an extension of that war
>Fails to mention the French were planning to build a fort in disputed territory
>Fails to mention Washington was ordered by the Virginia government to prevent the French from building that fort
>>1305184
Yes they where, but who cares it's over now. The Brits got back at them in 1812 anyway. I don't know why the French involvement in the war was so down-played however. It's not like they played an insignificant role but they just don't come up often when talking about it.
>>1305560
>Those Mexicans could make the same argument for California and texas because they owned it prior to you
And then we took it. Now we own it. They want it they can come and take it.
>>1305538
>It's Washington's fault for being ordered to start a fight with the French who were encroaching on their frontier
You're a retard
The American Revolution was just one theater in a global war between Britain and France. Whether the revolutionaries were "right" doesn't even matter - it wasn't about them. It did work out better for America than 90% of revolutions, though, and ultimately that's what's important.
>>1305307
>if you really hate paying taxes, you can certainly vote for a candidate whose platform involves reduced or eliminated taxes
Cuz Bush Sr did that, huh?
Any platform promising to lower taxes will inevitably go back on their promise because governments cant do shit without income.
>>1305569
The 7 years war started in 1754 between France and Britian caused by a military action in north america,caused by an officer in the virginia militia
Prove me wrong with facts not platitudes
>>1305557
Tea paper rum and sugar. Get your facts straight.
The taxes appling to everyone is fine. We just wanted rep is parliament like everyone else.
>>1305388
we side with you guys on a lot of things but when it comes to Britain and the Revolutionary War you're on your own
>>1305656
You had since you were recognized as british citizens Parliament didn't think you need a special representation since you were already recognized as citizens and not colonist. So basic representation applied to the colonies but you didn't in the sense that none of the seats in Parliament were controlled by an person that lived in the colonies. Is that really a big issue you were also gonna get lands further west that royal line bullshit was gonna end the moment the british no longer needed the Indians or the population died out. The colonies were also one of the colonies with the highest standards of living. Are really some small taxes just to pay for war debt that the colonist almost started that war a big deal.
>>1305758
No we didnt. He the no taxation without rperesentation. Yes that clearly was a big issue for us. Without a vote yes it is a big deal. We did not trust that you would have out best intrests at heart. With the history of mercantilism and all.
What dont you understand?
>>1305237
>implying the government's military technology hasn't advanced at a much quicker rate than civilian weaponry.
TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
U
S
A
U
S
A
BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, BOYS!
I am very patriotic, if you haven't noticed already.
Here is why I don't want to be ruled by Britain.
>Without American Revolution, monarchy across the world probably would've continued.
>Taxation without representation
>They have a unitary state, I like state rights
>They are a part of the EU
>We have Donald J. Trump
Need I say more?
>>1305923
God bless brother
The colonials complain that they pay too much tax.
Govenor agrees and cuts all BRITISH taxes but the tea tax.
The tea tax pays for the Royal Navy protection of the tea convoys. Colonials are drinking as much tea as the Brits.
Colonials still argue that they should not pay British taxes because American taxes are high because of graft and corruption.
Indians start attacking colonials and the colonials want British army protection.
Not much of a force is sent as the Brits where engaged in a war in Europe.
A small group of colonials Start a fight with the Brits and than lie about the cause to get popular following.
Colonial war starts.
Twenty years later, former colonials are complaining that their ships are being taken by pirates snd corseairs.
New American giberment imposes taxes to pay for a navy.
The taxes are twice what they paid under the British.
>>1305923
Liberty and nationalism is a spook anon. Dying for such a causes isnt something a self respecting egoist would do.
>>1305184
More like blisteringly incompetent. How the hell do you manage to A) piss off your own fatherland-worshiping colonies and B) fail to address their grievances so hard they go to war, which you C) somehow lose?
>>1305184
>think the war was over taxes....
>>ignores the occupation of Boston...
>>>ignores the suspension of natural rights....
Do you fucks even know American history?
>>1305420
If you think about it, Washington was kind of the definition of "the right man at the right time" when it came to making the U.S.A a thing.
Like that's some divine intervention-level shit.
>>1305960
>Muh Boston Massacre
>Literally 5 people got shot
>Massacre
>>1305943
Yet there wasn't a counter revolution. Gee it's almost like the American Colonists had more grievances than just taxes... if only someone would have thought to write them down.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html
>>1305943
Also the north african corsairs forever left american shipping alone after we beat their asses. You lobsterbacks kept impressing our sailors.
So we fought the war of 1812.
>>1305184
The Colonists demands were more than reasonable. They wanted to be treated like the British Citizens, they thought they were. They wanted to vote to elect members to Parliament. They wanted to vote for their own local government.
The Crown and British Government on the other hand saw colonials as foreign nationals. Something only good for making proper British gentlemen back in England, wealthy.
>>1305822
>implying the entirety of the U.S. military would side with the government if things actually got to that kind of breaking point.
Good day colonials.
My name is George, and I have nothing but distain for you commoners. You are naught but feeble-minded jacobins, mere guttersnipes, and the spawn of thieves and rabble, swept from the gutters of our darkest streets and alleyways.
In truth, have any of you been chosen by the Creator to be invested with the divine right to rule over a quarter of the earth's surface in glorious majesty? I thought not. Your pettifogging obsession with rules and straight-jacketing religion amuses me greatly, as I spend my time supporting agrarian research and funding Mr. Herschel's investigations into the heavens.
We are well rid of you indeed; your yammering and ignorant unwashed were a sad distraction, duped as they are by the perfidious influence of the French tyrant into believing that anything a grubby mechanic or filthy hayseed may have to say has any relevance to the running of a modern state.
I give you not more than five or six decades before you are at one another's throats, like the bloody-minded zealots you are. In the meantime, enjoy your preacher-ridden "republic," wherein your grubby naughty engravings must be hidden in the corn crib lest you be pilloried in the square, like common cutpurses and rogues.
Faugh, I can write no more, the bile rises in my gorge.
>>1305968
>Calling terrorists reasonable
ah yes, very American of you.
>>1305647
Not that anon but the whole issue is moot because the colonies were only involved because France was competing with England. If the colonies weren't part of Britania then France wouldn't have bothered fighting them. Their beef was with England.
>>1305999
>Any movement I don't like is a terrorist movement
Those damn Polish terrorist against their Benevolent Nazi occupiers...
>>1305184
There's literally a list of grievances written out in the Declaration of Independence that includes using Hessians (German mercenaries notorious for looting) to occupy Colonial towns during peacetime and numerous instances of Colonial officers abusing their power. Parliament itself was split on the Issue because the colonials made reasonable demands that the Liberals sympathized with but that the Tories saw as belligerence.
>>1306016
>Terrorists aren't Terrorists if I like them
The Brits were actually benevolent to you ungrateful lardass kikes though.
>>1305217
You literally asked Britain to fight a war with France that you started, and they agreed. That is your representation for the taxes levied afterwards to pay for said war.
>>1306023
>The Brits were actually benevolent
>This is what Shariastani's are actually brainwashed to believe
>>1305369
I don't know or care about the rest, but I do know that the Rainwater one is false
>>1305287
And only one of those countries is relevant on the world stage. Stay jealous cucked shitholes, we own you
>>1306031
I'm not a Brit. Just an unbiased objective poster.
>>1306040
>Wanting to be relevant
hahahah
>>1306049
Something something refugees
>>1305237
This.
>implying
assmad, britfags?
>>1305787
I've said like ten times stop failing for your crappy colonial propaganda you had representation since you were considered BRITISH CITIZENS and when new laws and taxes that were made for the benefit of a british citizens in the homeland it would also apply to everyone living in the colonies. You were already giving representation in the Parliament. Maybe they would have given a seat to a colonial if anyone went to the process of being elected to seat but no you just wanted to put someone there without the due process. You would have also achived representation if the colonials hadn't started the war between the Indian tribes and france.
>>1306040
This
>>1306835
No we did not have representation in parliament. That why this whole thing started.
No taxation without representation. How are you going to say we had representation when you admit we did nove a seat. MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND.
Suck it limey you have been surpassed
>>1306862
Yeah I can already tell your shitposting dude your more buthurt than the colonist fucking jewish tool. You american can't really accept when you re in the wrong. If you want representation follow the process and elect some one you bloody cunts.
>>1306911
We were not wrong we had no representation.
You fags though it was uppity for us to even ask.
There was no voting seat for us to elect to. Why do t you get this?
>>1305965
He's not talking about the Boston Massacre retard, he's talking about the British closure of Boston Harbor and subsequent military occupation prior to the War.
>>1305311
>mass murdered civilians during WW1
Are you implying Belgians should be considered human?
How long after the Revolution did it take Britain and the US to become friends again?
Also is that unusual in the history of revolutions, for the rebels to make amends with the old country?
>>1307189
1895 with the Great Reproachment. However the UK and U.S. always had cordial business relations.
>>1305184
>fuck you pay me
>ever the good guys
Good goy
>>1305253
/thread
>>1305287
And suddenly bang! WWI and WWII
>America pls help gibe moni plox
>>1305184
All those decades defending the colonies from the Catholic absolute monarchies as a democratic Protestant constitutional monarchy.
FUCKING GREEDY PATRIOTS
Not even once.
>>1307291
>defending
>implying the War of Spanish Succession wasn't an offensive war by the British
>implying the French-Indian War wasn't an offensive war that that British started
>implying implications
Perfidious Albion at it again lads
>>1307297
>implying the French-Indian War wasn't an offensive war that that British started
To be fair George Washington was British Colonel when he attacked the French in the Ohio territory at his own accord, one of the factors triggering the French-Indian War.
>>1307310
>all that war on the British behalf and they couldn't even muster up a single seat of representation
Keep shucking and jiving, anglo scum.
>>1307319
Bollocks, the British political system at the was based property rights and ownership, due to cheap land in the colonies, it made very easy for people who couldn't afford property in Britain, to afford property in the colonies, thus making the American colonies the most democratic parts of the Empire.
>>1307336
>quite literally no representation for the colonies, not a single fucking seat, in the parliament despite fighting several wars on their behalf
>Britcuck goes on tirade about democracy
Here's a nice cup of fuck you. If you don't like it, we'll throw it in your fucking harbor and we'll throw you in after it, you snaggle-toothed, limey fuckboy.
>>1307359
British-Americans had complete control complete control of their own domestic policies, lobbying the state council and being able to stand for the Governor's Council and ultimately the Secretary of State for the Southern Department in Westminster gave British citizens in America more political enfranchisement than the average British Citizen in the UK, at the time.
>>1305486
What about taxes that kids pay ?
>>1307160
That happened because of you guessed it the Boston"massacre".
>>1307240
>Fuck you pay me
>Fuck you pay me for the war you started
>>1307651
Wrong again, happened because of the Boston Tea Party.
A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE CAUSES OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION:
>Proclamation of 1763 prevents colonists from settling past the Appalachians, pissing off many since they feel they had a right to it after winning the war.
>British war debt requires Brits to levy new taxes on the colonists.
>The first is the Stamp Act, it taxes all paper goods. Everything from letters to playing cards. After serious protest by Colonists, the act is repealed.
>More taxes subsequently raised, including Tea, Sugar, Townshend acts and many more.
>Protests less about the taxes themselves and more about that the Colonists have no say over them. The Colonists had, historically, been left to autonomously govern and tax themselves. Now Parliament is exerted more direct control over them, which they have no voting representative in.
>Parliament declares all resolutions passed by them to be final as applies to the colonies, which is basically a big fuck you to colonial autonomy.
>It is found out that Parliament plans to give the Ohio valley to Quebec instead of the Thirteen Colonies, further causing butthurt as the colonies had just fought a war under the assumption that land was for them and now Parliament was giving it back to Quebec.
>Boston Tea Party happens. Brits close down Boston Harbor and declare martial law, beginning an occupation of the city. Massive anger ensues.
>Quartering Act mandates colonists house British Soldiers; more anger ensues.
>Boston Massacre happens, probably instigated by the colonists but painted as British aggression. Massive butthurt happens when Brits plan to send the soldiers to Britain to stand trial. That doesn't happen and they stand trial in Boston; found not guilty. OJ Simpson levels of butthurt ensues.
>In 1775 Brits send troops to Lexington to destroy stockpile of militia weapons. Battles of Lexington and Concord ensue, they are the first battles of the war.
>One year later, in 1776, all Thirteen Colonies declare independence.
ITT: Buttmad British cuckolded mad about being irrelevant and dwarfed by a former colony.
>>1305237
>>1307297
>implying the War of Spanish succession wasn't an offensive war by the British
You're wrong about that. How about learning some history before coming to a history board? The Second Partition Treaty was drawn up by the English, Dutch AND French, agreeing that Archduke Charles would succeed to the Spanish Throne. When the dying, horribly inbred Charles II named Philip of Anjou (Louis' grandson) as his heir, with Archduke Charles second if he declined, Louis declared his grandson as the King of Spain in violation of the treaty he had agreed to. He fucked over the whole of Europe because he wanted more power. How is that an offensive war by the British? Why don't you stop spouting memes you've heard other people use because it's not hiding the fact that you don't know a thing.
>>1307658
>Member of the Royal Army, something that had the Colonies had no control over, starts a war.
>Proceed to continue with said war while the actual colonies could care less about the outcome.
>We dindu nothing, it was all your fault!
>>1307297
>War of Spanish Succession
Happened in 1701, buddy. You're thinking of the 7 Years War, which happened because France and her allies wanted to curb Prussian Power.
>>1307862
>telling other people how to run their country
>going to war over it when they run it how you don't want them to
>not an offensive war
>>1307884
Taxes were levied against the colonials for the War of Spanish Succession as well. There was sentiment stirring over it, creating a proto-American nationalism, well before the 7 Years' War even started. TMYK.
>>1307895
>creating a proto-American nationalism
[Citation needed]
>>1305531
germany encouraged austria into starting ww1, they wanted it to happend
and if you actully spoke to a vietnamese irl youd know they, the common people, fought it not for communism but for the freedom of their country from foreign rule.
>>1307390
Absolutely they had more control, until after the war, which is why they rebelled
>>1305307
>If you feel a need to overthrow the government, why would the 2nd amendment make any difference?
If they confiscate the guns, it will be much harder to get guns once the revolution starts.
I could have told you that when I was a month old.
>>1307966
>The economic costs of the war were high in some of the southern English colonies, including those that saw little military activity. Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania to a lesser extent, were hit hard by the cost of shipping their export products (primarily tobacco) to European markets, and also suffered because of several particularly bad harvests.[85] South Carolina accumulated a significant debt burden to finance military operations.[86]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Anne%27s_War#Consequences
The taxes initially chafed the American colonies and the British pretty quickly relented under pressure. Honestly, most of pre-Revolution American politics was Britain levying taxes, Americans throwing a fit, Britain relenting and telling the Americans that they can and will levy taxes when they deem it necessary, rinse and repeat.
The war was also the first fought by small American militia rather than British regulars. Washington wrote in a letter prior to the 7 Years War how the developments after Queen Anne's War (though he was not yet alive) had created a sharply distinct identity between American troops and British regulars which widened during the French-Indian War. I can't actually find this source again. I read it in college.
There's also this if it helps, it talks about how America changed during the interbellum period:
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/THM1713?OpenDocument
Isn't ironic how according to Americans the Revolution was started largely due to lack of representation, and yet now huge numbers don't even bother voting or looking up what their two identical candidates actually want?
>>1308183
Isn't ironic how according to Europoors they're superior to Americans, and yet now they're no more than American vassal states?
This is an /int/-tier thread. I expected better for a Sunday shitpost.
>>1307756
Why did the British allow autonomy in the past then later tax them even though they were more powerful at that point?
>>1308190
Where'd you get the idea I'm a Yuropoor?
>>1308247
Because Parliament needed the extra shekels
>>1308183
It's not that ironic because the Revolution was not merely over taxes or representation but a multitude of things the colonists literally recorded in writing, you fucking doofus.
>people will try and rationalize paying taxes that they have no say in its setting or application
What are we, literal peasants?
I mean listen, I like the commonwealth and the crown, they're great, but when an injustice is then expanded on with crackdowns, it's time for independence. And the United States has prospered since.
>>1307907
Of course the Spanish didn't recognize the treaty you fucking pleb, it was a secret treaty to divide the empire on Charles II's death. Count Tallard headed the French delegation on the treaty and Louis approved its draft terms. Even Louis' minister, Beauvilliers, tried to persuade him to honour the treaty.
Power in Europe was going to be focused in the hands of one man who was used to using his military might to get what he wants. It wasn't even just Britain, the United Provinces, Portugal and most importantly the Holy Roman Empire were against him.
>>1307882
>Royal Army
I know I'm being pedantic but this severely triggers my autism.
>>1305970
>implying the US military isn't directly controlled by the US government
If any sort of breakdown happens in the US it'd be Syria x 2, but only for a few months before the military (which for the past decade has been honed against civilian insurrection in the Middle East) drone strikes the rebellions into dust
>>1305580
>They want it they can come and take it.
Exactly what they're doing
>>1305184
>centralized Empire
>good guys
pick one
>>1305311
France literally destroyed Africa. The British starved millions of Indians to death. All of north America was genocided by them.
Empires have always been the bad guys.
>>1305371
If the British were so great, why did an entire continent of people hate them and rebel against them, and why did they lose it?
>>1305647
>These self-important Americans
I'm not him, but your point is ridiculous. No, it was not a British raid in an irrelevant place in the middle of the Appalachians that caused the Seven Years' War.
The dispute promoted by Prussia for the control of Austrian Silesia, yes, was a cause.
The Diplomatic Revolution, another cause.
Some powder grains fired at the end of the world was not among it.
You cant out good guy Washington.
>>1305184
>good guy
>good
>>1308247
7 plus years of continent-consuming war does wonders to drain a nation's coffers.
The didnt fight because they jad to pay taxes, they fought because their inalienable rights were being violated, which desu can difficulty be said to be a bad thing, unleas your a pacifist.
>>1305388
you lost our support when you attacked us, dick move guys.
>>1309316
However British historians overwhelmingly see the revolution as a return to British values and rights that had been suppressed by the Hanoverian Monarchy. Something which isn't taught in American schools
>>1305388
Yeah I don't think you'll find many of us that support amerifags
>>1305287
Wheres the "Been to the Moon" row?
>>1309118
>posse comitatus
>>1305923
>We have Donald J. Trump
>he unironically thinks Donald Trump will win when Hillary Clinton LITERALLY avoids prosecution and has the support from Wall Street, Big Business and the sand people
lel
This thread is fucking hilarious. I suspect most of the people on here are just Americans trolling each other, but I thought the popular opinion would be far more against the ol' Empire.
>>1307882
Your first President attacked indians that were allied to the french. He literally started the French-indian war
>>1305307
>Trump
>political establishment
Get real. The GOP can't find it's ass now because of him. They hate him because he doesn't play by their rules.
>>1309161
>France literally destroyed Africa.
There was nothing to destroy in Africa when Europeans arrived, just mudhuts and chimps running around with wooden spears
>>1306040
>the only one relevant on the world stage
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sure
The worst fucking misconception that came out the Revolutionary War was that George III was a tyrant. Yet at the time, the power of the Monarchy was diminishing and George believed that he should respect the Sovereignty of Parliament in deciding matters concerning the Colonies.
>>1305424
>Let's just continue to take it up the ass by colonial overlords that show little to no interest in the wellbeing of their citizens, only the taxes that come from them
>Let's not take the option of sovereignty and self governance over having our glorified dad lecture us from across the world
>Let's not become a world superpower and completely eclipse our mother country
Yeah, no.
>>1305943
>what is the value of self governance
>what is the value of sovereignty
>whaahh why don't people want to accept my word as absolute law over their lives instead of being able to decide for themselves
>I, and others like me will continue to be anally annihilated about this for the next 240 years and counting
>>1305999
>calling freedom fighters and revolutionaries terrorists
How very English of you.
>>1306049
>better try to convince him his country is compromised by having non-whites
>in a land literally built on the immigration of non-nationals
>>1307651
I wish Europeans would stop pretending to know anything about American history. It's a constant circle jerk about how we're all tards but the second you try to say anything you prove you're fucking clueless.
>>1311152
>Washington
>first president
>not Peyton Randolph
Why the fuck do so many people buy into this stupid meme?
>>1305276
>Germany in ww1
>A good guy
Pick one.
>>1311382
Because the Confederation was an ad-hoc arrangement well-forgotten within a couple decades of it being replaced.
the British were of course neither bad nor good, merely servants to an antiquated dominating monarchical colonial exploitation system
>>131003 Canadians and their opinions are so relevant
>>1312391
canadians didn't even exist till the 20th century, though some would argue they existed in the latter half of the 19th
>>1310013
The Hanoverians were essential in laying the groundwork of British values we still hold today. They protected the religious identity of Britain, the number of newspapers and prints expanded rapidly, there was an increased importance on the economy and the growing, shop-owning middle class, the emergence of prime minister and cabinet began and they oversaw the expansion of the Royal Navy and the Bank of England. Most of the institutions we hold to be distinctly British emerged during the Hanoverian dynasty.
>>1305237
>u cant win a civil war becuz tanks n airplanes ;)
So that's why rebel groups control half of Syria now.
