OFFICIAL PHILOSOPHER RANKING LIST
BASED GOD-TIER:
Evola
Epictetus
Plotinus
BASED-TIER:
Nietzsche
Schopenhauer
Plato
Kierkegaard
GOOD-TIER:
Aristotle
Descartes
Heidegger
Hume
LOW-TIER:
Sartre
Derrida
Lacan
LE EBIN XDDD REDDIT-TIER:
Stirner
Camus
This list is objective.
Antique philosophy is biggest meme ever.
>based tier
>no Diogenes of Sinope
Thought /his was serious, looks like it isn't
>>1304476
>No based Kant
>>1304476
Should even the lowest-tier philosopher, Stirner, be appreciated? Is logical construction bad in his case?
>No Diogenes
ive never discarded an opinion more quickly
>>1304476
>Evola not Reddit tier
>Evola
>not meme tier
>Stirner
>meme tier
Maybe if you're some kind of filthy pleb. Evola was a hack, Stirner utterly destroyed an entire wing of philosophy.
>>1304476
>evola
>not Reddit
Disregarded
>>1304507
>He's reddit-tier, sorry you had to find out this way
Then you're a fucking idiot. Epictetus as a philosopher wouldn't have happened without him.
>>1304476
>no wittgenstein
>no diogenes
>no pre-socratics
>no augustine
>no aquinas
>evola above heidegger
>nietzsche above aristotle
Into the dust bin.
>>1304476
>evola not reddit
>nietzsche not reddit
>implying stirner didn't rekt nietzsche
>>1304581
>implying Evola and Stirner don't agree on the absolute reality of the Self, except that Evola grounds it in the transcendent
Shows how much you know
>>1304586
Epictetus was taught by a Stoic you filthy, filthy pleb
>>1304632
>Stirner rekt an entire wing of philosophy=!stirner rekt/disagreed with Evola
>misunderstanding such a simple post
Someone explain Stirner and his philosophy without using the word spook.
>>1304617
How the fuck did stirner destroy nietzsche?
>>1304476
BASED GOD-TIER:
Stefan Molyneux
Voltaire
BASED-TIER:
Marx
Camus
GOOD-TIER:
Descartes
Hume
MEME TIER
Nietzsche
Schopenhauer
Kant
>>1304724
leave
>>1304724
>Stefan Molymeme
>Marx
>Those meme tier picks
I hope you're joking.
>>1304838
that's not an argument!
>This list is objective
>Thinking objectivity is possbile
No one including OP bothers to back up their reasoning.
>>1304724
You're right about Memetzsche
>>1304674
I've heard Stirner described as a 'systematic Nietzsche'.
Though, you have to remember Stirner is reacting against Hegelianism, where Nietzsche's work was more or less a response to Schopenhauer's philosophy (not that Nietzsche hadn't read Hegel.. but still) and Christianity.
I've only skimmed through the Ego and Its Own because I haven't even gotten to Hegel yet. I'm stuck at Kant lol.
>>1304637
And stoics were influenced by cynics. Diogenes was a prominent cynic
I think you're forgetting someone OP
>>1304476
>Evola in the highest tier
Couldn't agree more
>Sartre
>Not in plebbit tier with Spookman and DUDE CAFÉ LMAO
>>1304589
>wittgenstein
meme
>diogenes
ditto
>pre socratics
Like?
>augustine
>aquinas
Alright, I give you these
>evola above heidigger
Yeah should be same level
>nietzhe above aristotle agree
>>1304581
>>1304583
>>1304489
Evola is one of the fews of the 20th century who is not a meme.
He is everything that is anti-reddit. He is the antithesis of plebness himself.
Diogenes is plebbit tier, again.
He was the degenerate marxist hippy weedman of the Antiquity along with Jesus of Nazaret.
>>1304724
>Steffie Boy ft. Mike the Slave
>Le HRE Guy x'DD
>Marx
>Camus
This is the best bait I've ever seen on this board.
You could have added Rand though.
>>1304476
Marcus Aurelius is missing from the god-tier.
Kant tier: the dwarf
Everyone else: Average tier
>>1304476
Fuck off to /tv/ or /mu/ with your meme ranking lists you shitposting retard.
>>1304973
Totally agree with you, but I don't consider Aurelius or even Seneca as proper stoic philosophers, just based motherfuckers
Evolvo is a scholar, not a philosopher
>>1304476
Haven't read Plotinus, Aristotle should be in based-god tier, and Heidegger should be based.
That all said this is the best "objective ranking" of philosophers I've ever seen on /his/
>>1305025
>best "objective ranking" of philosopher
>Niteszche in based-tier
pick 1 and only 1
>>1305016
Nice to hear.
Why don't you consider them proper stoics? Who is proper in your opinion?
Aurelius is a strange case, I agree, as he wrote "Meditations" as a diary rather than an enlightening book for the people. It is a blessing though that his writings have survived completely unchanged and we can read them 2 millenia later.
Why does everybody hate on Camus
>>1305051
They're not as systematized, though Seneca skirts the line.
Reminder that Nietzsche was right about literally everything
>>1305056
Because he's pretty much Nietzsche minus the antisemitism, plus a good bit of depression.
And I suppose a lot of people who just started getting into philosophy read his books.
It's not like they'll understand him or anything. One must read a good amount of philosophy to even understand what he's going on about.
The Myth of Sisyphus was one of the first philosophy books I read.
4chan doesn't like newbies.
>>1305090
It just seems like contrarianism because indeed, Camus is one of the first authors people reach for when they become interested in philosophical fiction. But fuck, is that such a bad thing? That Camus is a staple in the genre?
>>1305077
Nietzsche's last words were "Mother - I'm stupid"
Can you elaborate on what he was correct about?
Experience tells me he was wrong about pretty much everything... but I still like the guy.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/substance/
>>1305106
He was right about the worship of science to replace God, he was right about the exhausting focus on utility, he was right about the spread of christian values under a secular veneer (social democracy and the like). The man was a prophet and the concepts of Apollonian and Dionysian are brilliant. But you have to have an appreciation for aesthetics to really "get" him I think. Maybe smoke some weed.
Also it's not really fair to judge him by his letters later in life since he came down with a nasty case of brain cancer.
>>1304476
someone said plotinus ?
>>1305119
>>1305106
>Maybe smoke some weed.
I was with you until this.
DROPPED
Also maybe people should start off at slave vs master morality regarding Nietzsche, I think it is the easiest to understand out of his tenets. Given if the source is easy to digest and is not plagued by the demagogue strawman of "Nietzsche said that if you follow someone/something than you're a slave".
>>1305140
lmao dude just puff on a blunt
>>1305147
Don't you have better stuff to do, Justin?
>>1304476
>Aristotle and Heidegger
>Good-tier
MEME TIER:
Diogenes
Stirner
Evola
Land
MEH TIER:
Plotinus
Leibniz
Nietzsche
Sartre
Husserl
SOLID TIER:
Descartes
Kierkegaard
Heidegger
Schopenhauer
Ockham
Quine
Peirce
BASED TIER:
Wittgenstein
Spinoza
Boethius
Scotus
Kripke
Rousseau
GREAT TIER:
Augustine
Hume
Hegel
Plato
ELDERS:
Aristotle
Aquinas
Kant
Graham Harman
>>1305119
>aesthetics
>weed
>nietzsche
Mah
Fucking
Nigga
>the philosophers that most echo my own thoughts and presentiments, or which i enjoy the most, are objectively better than the ones who most suit you or whom you enjoy more
now that's what i call wew lad
>>1304476
>Evola top of the list
Fucking dropped
>>1305259
smug millenial probably named ryan detected
>>1305212
Translation when?
>>1304724
>Marx
I want commie scum out
>Evola
Found the dumb reactionary who thinks he's a Fascist or a 'NatSoc'
>>1305367
could probably wreck u in a debate, try me m8
>>1305351
Are you kidding me? Evola is like THE torchbearer for smug millennials.
"Bro this society is so fucked and degenerate and no one understands the value of self-mastery, I just gotta ride the tiger bro, ride the tiger! XD"
>>1305389
>evola
>millenials
famalam...
>>1305395
What? Are you saying that only people who were alive during the time of a work's publication can be the ones who read it?
>>1305397
I'm saying what someone would typically consider a millenial is the complete antithesis to Evola's intended audience. Especially the strawman you quoted. He'd laugh at such a shallow grasp of his ideas, at least one that doesn't goad one into action.
>>1305389
His popularity is mostly among disaffected eightchanners and the like. Really far from the typical millennial, and his anti-democratic, anti-modern, and anti-liberal views are tantamount to heresy with the secular youth.
For the record I don't like him. He's way too wacky.
>>1305408
Yeah fair enough. I just didn't see "smug millennial" as equating to "contemporary, liberal urban youths." You can, like you said, be a disaffected eightchanner and still fit the definition of "smug millennial."
>tfw no one's contested Epictetus at the top
huuughrhhhh as it should be
>>1305367
>Traditionalist
>has anything to do with Fascism or NatSoc
You have a problem with basic words of this topic like "reactionarism".
>calling someone dumb
You showed them now. How will they ever recover?
NOT AN ARGUMENT and Reddit: The Post
>>1305389
>"Bro this society is so fucked and degenerate and no one understands the value of self-mastery, I just gotta ride the tiger bro, ride the tiger! XD"
Excactly how someone with Evolan principles would never speak.
>if someone is better than me he is just a smug
Great slave mentality there, boy.
>>1305577
Legitimate question - what is wrong with slave mentality?
>>1305592
what is life-denying and celebrates weakness/meekness of spirit vs. what is ennobling, life-affirming, and celebrates strength in the face of adversity
>>1304617
stirner is a spook
>>1305008
Calling reddit anyone who calls everything reddit is reddit tier
>>1304637
Stoics wouldn't exist without the cynics, specifically Diogenes. Zeno based his philosophy off of his.
Shows how much you know.
>>1304476
Ayn Rand should be up with BASED-TIER, or at least GOOD-TIER
>>1304724
>Stefan Molyneux
Nice bait.
>>1304476
How is Camus reddit and Nietzche based? Their views are pretty similar.
>no Sextus Empiricus
>no Marcus Aurelius
>no Philip Zimbardo
What a weak list
>Plotinus
My nigga.
Lacan is misunderstood and I adore him.
>>1304973
Only good post in this thread.
>>1305642
>what is life-denying
I would argue that it is "master" mentality (if you want to use the dichotomy) that is life-denying, inasmuch as that it denies others' lives before your own. If your morality is based upon your own personal fulfilment at the expense of the well being (and even life if taken to its logical extreme) of other beings, then it is a corrupt morality that willfully ignores the reality of suffering.
>and celebrates strength in the face of adversity
Au contraire. I will not deny that, on one level, "master" morality provides the strength to enforce one's will onto the chaotic nature of the external world, but it takes even greater force of will to not only recognise your biases, but to accept and overcome them. Enforced will onto others means NOTHING if it is not coming from a position of absolute certainty in the benevolence of your actions - something that I'd posit the famous "master" moralists of history lacked.
>>1304476
Making arbitrary retarded lists about anything is utter shit.
>>1304841
>pls donate
i'm dead
>>1307397
It sounds like cop out but I'm too tired right now to write a big indepth response just wanted to say thanks for actually making a substantive argument instead of memeing
>>1305367
nice arguments lad
>no mention of spinoza
>>1304476
>Evola
>anywhere above meh tier
Ruined what could be a great thread
>>1304476
Jesus Christ man. This is why /his/ needs to leave philosophy to /lit/
>>1305648
>stirner is a spook
I don't think you understand what a spook is
>>1304476
Evola was a loser who lived in his moms basement yammering about racial purity and practicing spoopy magic that I'm sure totally works.
I can see why so many teenagers idolize him.
So... What philosophical concept Evola invented to be that high on the list?
>>1305189
This is one mess of a list, though the authenticity is undeniable
>>1305389
You know anon, you should look behind the memes and read him for yourself. He's a fun read, and you might even en up agreeing with him on a thing or two. The image you get from pol idiots is very far from his actual tought
>>1311611
Nah
>>1310314
/lit/ is trash. Last I heard they still worship the wacky hijinks of le zany XD rocket man
If you're arrogant enough to rank philosophers on some sort of list, you're probably a happy denizen of mount stupid.
>>1304476
>LE EBIN XDDD REDDIT-TIER:
>Stirner
Does Reddit even know about Stirner?
I'm pretty sure nobody outside of /lit/ and /his/ and actual philosophy students has ever even heard of him. Take your ironic memes elsewhere, homo.
>>1304476
Eh even Camus didn't regard himself as a very good philosopher. Great author though.
>>1310290
that comic is unfunny as fuck and most "altrighters" probably have no clue who Evola is since none of them read books
>>1313300
>Fucking stupid libcuck comics I don't see myself that way
>Better make sure to drop a token insult just so no-one suspects anything
>Whew close one
>>1313352
>the alt right invented insults
famalam...
Camus, Plato, Aristotle, Georges Bataille, Merleau-Ponty, I. Kant, J. Habermas, T. Adorno, K. Marx, Hegel, Marcuse.
These are all solid.
>>1313687
Marcuse is the worst philosopher of all time. Was there anything where he wasn't completely wrong?
>>1315441
Was any philosopher ever right?
GOD TIER:
Kant
Aristotle
Russell
STRONG TIER:
Plato
Kripke
Wittgenstein
Lewis
Frege (Downgraded for explosive ending)
Gödel
Descartes
Hume
SOLID TIER:
Rousseau
Hobbes
Ryle
Pascal
Chomsky
Nietzsche
HONORABLE MENTION TIER:
Heidegger (A for effort)
Sartre (A for coffee)
Camus (A for writing)
Epictetus (A for best-seller)
Socrates and Diogenes (A for speculation)
MEME TIER:
Lacan
Kierkegaard
Derrida
SUB-MEME
Evola
1. Why does this board have such a hard on for Diogenes? wtf
2. None of the people criticizing Evola have read his work on Buddhism, Tantrism, Hermeticism, metaphysics if sex, etc. That's where his real brilliance shows, not in "meme books" like Ride the Tiger.
3. What's so special about Epictetus.
4. You don't have to agree with Nietzsche to acknowledge that he is a genius.
5. Aristotle should be God tier.
6. We need more threads in based Plotinus.
>>1315822
of sex*
>>1304476
i don't know how you're ranking these
if it's based on memetic appeal then sure
>>1315822
>4. You don't have to agree with Nietzsche to acknowledge that he is a genius.
Actually if you agree with him you should probably think that he is an idiot.
Seriously, why do people even think Evola is brilliant? Never read him but just reading his wikipedia page here are the kinds of concepts and thoughts I see:
"solar masculinity" versus "chthonic masculinity" (Wot?)
"natural heroic rights"
"Divine kings"
"sexual magic"
"spiritual anti-materialist value of war"
And then there's this fucking gem:
"In Revolt, he expounds according to the ancient texts that there is not one tradition, but two: an older and degenerate tradition that is feminine, matriarchal, unheroic, associated with the telluric negroid racial remnants of Lemuria; and a higher one that is masculine, heroic, "Uranian" and purely Aryo-Hyperborean in its origin."
Okay, I can see how some piss-finished retards in 4chan might like that kind of crap but that does NOT how you make good philosophy.
That does not how you make good philosophy indeed... Fuck me. Still, I'd actually be curious. Is he supposed to be good because of his systematic brilliance? Because his concept hint at some truth? Is he just a racist spiritualist which is why some of you love him?
>>1315822
>1. Why does this board have such a hard on for Diogenes? wtf
Because he's an interesting philosopher who actually lived according to what he preached, and wound up being the foundational influence of one of the greatest philosophical schools to ever exist.
Peter Sloterdijk
What the fuck did Russell do that was any good, apart from making philosophy autistic for 50 years?
>>1304476
So is Socrates not even a philosopher?
>>1304476
>Diogenes of Sinope not on list
Not a real list.
>>1304845
There are no objective opinions
>>1316056
>just lists concepts without having read or understood them
>hurr durr they sound wrong
kill yourself
>>1315740
>russell
>god tier
hahahaha ok m8
>traditionalism
>good
Into the trash it all goes
>>1304476
>Spinoza not in a tier of his own above BASED GOD-TIER
>>1304617
>>1304617
>>1304583
>>1304580
>>1305259
>>1305367
>>1305389
>>1310290
>>1315740
>>1315822
>go to reddit
>type in evola
>Evola Subbreddit: 7 subscribers
>community for 3 years
>>1304476
>>1304543
>>1304581
>>1304632
>>1304658
>>1305189
>>1305189
>>1305389
>>1305395
>>1305648
>>1310317
>>1312590
>go to reddit
>search "stirner"
>Mstirner subreddit community 1 year
>4 subscribers
>both evola and stirner's names hav been typed on reddit less than 150 times each. Probably by the same 12 people discussing it.
Kill yourselves.
>>1316846
>traditionalism
>Bad
Kid spotted
>god-tier: wittgenstein russell, frege, carnap, ayer, quine, plantinga, rawls, nozick, kripke, kuhkn, popper
db8 me continental shits
>>1317257
>IFoundThisStrawmanItsClearlyYou.jpg
N O T A N A R G U M E N T
>ctrl-f
>hegel
>1 result, not even in any list
What is wrong with you guys?
>>1313300
i thought that comic was hilarious to be honest (t b h)
>>1315740
I very much like this list, though I would rate both Socrates and Diogenes higher personally.
You are also missing diversity ( :~) ). Confucius and Averroes cannot be missed on a serious list of philosophers.
Even with all this criticism I must admit that this is the only post itt I can respect so hats off to you I guess.
