Let us discuss our piety and faith in the one true God.
We are now on day 4 of Ramadan. How's that fast holding up?
>>1263662
an hour to go whew im so hungry and feel like throwing up a little but otherwise okay. It's just hard to get work done when you're fasting
do you like amos yee?
>>1263662
I want to eat and I need to wait until 9:47. It´s not that hard actually but I just want to eat ;..;
>>1263662
God is with us :-)
>tfw I can't fast for medical reasons
>>1263667
its okay
>>1263662
I've never fasted all 30 but In Sha Allah, this year I will fast them all, it's going well so far.
Also the Earth is Flat.
>>1263669
I did that last year but this year I'm in yurop this year and it's gonna be harder but I feel close to god
>>1263670
Yeah I'm in England it's like 18hrs
>>1263662
>only sunup to sundown
>calling it a fast
At least it's better than Christian "fasting" where they give up a favorite food or some nonsense, but it's still lame.
>pretending to be muslim
Ramadan Mubarak I guess, you faggots.
Why is the Islamic world so far behind, guys?
>>1263669
Wew lad
>>1263733
Slow internet
>>1263667
Mental illness doesn't count anon
>>1263662
Fasting is quite bearable but avoiding sexual thoughts and masturbation is getting harder (no pun intended) each day.
Christianity and Judaism should be classified alongside Islam as triplet alien religions contrary to everything that made the Europe great.
>>1263779
Do it at night
>>1263785
>>1263671
>>1263670
>>1263669
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>>1263733
As a test...
>>1263788
I don't know if it's allowed. I'm a Quranist and whether or not masturbation is allowed is debatable.
>>1263785
I'm a Muslim and I think Christianity made Europe great. The whole tradition of Christian thoughts - from St Augustine to Simone Weile - is admirable. Too bad Muslims got corrupted by obscurantist hadiths.
>>1263805
Yeah it is not allowed, but if you're going to commit a sin then better do it after the fast.
>>1263763
I'm a Muslim.
The Earth is flat.
NASA CGI bullshit always shows the Earth as a sphere not an Egg like Zakir Naik claims.
Every translation says something along the lines of
Surah Taha (20:53):
Who has made Earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.
I've seen 30ish translations of that passage and not one said anything about an Egg.
>>1263805
>quranist
>>1263802
I'm Black :)
>>1263825
But my preferred translations says otherwise, I claim your statement as a false on this basis.
>>1263834
so?
>>1263805
>Quranist
Do you even know how to pray?
>>1263835
What's your preferred translation please?
Muhammad Asad: And after that, the Earth: wide has He spread its expanse,
M. M. Pickthall: And after that He spread the Earth,
Shakir: And the Earth, He expanded it after that.
Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985): And the Earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);
Yusuf Ali (Orig. 1938): And the Earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);
Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar: And, after that, He spread out the Earth.
Wahiduddin Khan: and the Earth which He spread out,
T.B.Irving: and the Earth has He spread out besides,
[Al-Muntakhab]: and the Earth did He prepare for life at a later date.*
[The Monotheist Group] (2011 Edition): And the land after that He spread out.
Abdel Haleem: and the Earth, too, He spread out,
Abdul Majid Daryabad:i And the Earth!- thereafter He stretched it out.
Ahmed Ali: And afterwards spread out the Earth.
Aisha Bewley: After that He smoothed out the Earth
Ali Quli Qara'i: and after that He spread out the Earth,
Hamid S. Aziz: And after that He expanded (spread) the Earth.
Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali: And the Earth, after that He flattened it (for life).
Muhammad Sarwar: After this, He spread out the Earth,
Muhammad Taqi Usmani: and, after that, He spread out the Earth.
Umm Muhammad (Sahih International): And after that He spread the Earth.
Farook Malik: After that He spread out the Earth,
Dr. Munir Munshey: And after that, He spread out the Earth.
Dr. Mohammad Tahir-ul-Qadri: And He is the One Who, later, (after the creation of the planet sun) separated (from it) the Earth, flung it with centrifugal force (and spread its expanse to make it inhabitable).
Dr. Kamal Omar: And the Earth, after this stage, He gave it an oval form.
Talal A. Itani (new translation): And the Earth after that He spread.
Bilal Muhammad (2013 Edition): And the Earth, moreover, has He extended.
Maududi: and thereafter spread out the Earth,
[The Monotheist Group] (2013 Edition): And the land after that He spread out.
>>1263785
The Islamic golden age inspired the European Renaissance. All the knowledge of the Greeks and Romans would have been lost if not for the Muslims, and Europeans also gained the knowledge of the Persians and Indians.
Modern Europe is what the Muslim world use to be like.
>>1263805
it's allowed to ease your frustrations and prevent worse sins, but it's not allowed while fasting.
>>1263662
ITT: despicable primitive filth posing as humans
>>1263856
Classical Arabic is not the same as modern English. Please don't start a translation argument unless you are a classical Arabic linguist.
I took a history of Arabic class and how many words in the Quran have multiple meanings are crazy. You can spend your whole life studying them to find them all.
>>1263858
>All the knowledge of the Greeks and Romans would have been lost if not for the Muslims
meme history, monks throughout Europe were already preserving texts
>Modern Europe is what the Muslim world use to be like.
they had sky-scrapers and rockets in the "Muslim World"?
literal we wuz
>>1263866
Bijan Moeinian: Look at the Earth which He has spread.
Faridul Haque: And after it spread out the Earth.
Hasan Al-Fatih Qaribullah: And the Earth He extended after that;
Maulana Muhammad: Ali And the Earth, He cast it after that.
Muhammad Ahmed - Samira: And the Earth/Planet Earth after that He blew and stretched/spread it.
Sher Ali: And the Earth, along with it, HE has spread forth.
Ahmed Raza Khan (Barelvi): And after that, he spread out the Earth.
Amatul Rahman Omar: And along with it He hurled the Earth away (from a bigger mass) and spread it forth.
Muhsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali: And after that He spread the Earth;
Arthur John Arberry: and the Earth-after that He spread it out,
Edward Henry Palmer: and the Earth after that He did stretch out.
George Sale: After this, He stretched out the Earth,
John Medows Rodwell: And afterwards stretched forth the Earth,
N J Dawood: After that He spread the Earth,
Sayyid Qutb: After that He spread out the Earth.
Torres Al Haneef: And the Earth -- after that He spread it out.
Sayyed Abbas Sadr-Ameli: And the Earth, after that He spread it out;
Mir Aneesuddin: And He stretched out the Earth (drifting the continents apart), after that,
Mohammad Shafi: And the Earth thereafter ¬ He spread it out.
>>1263869
By whom?
Why don't you do something about it instead of crying on 4chan.
>>1263858
>Muslim world used to be like Modern Europe
So not Muslim then?
Nice try attempt though. 2/10 made me reply.
>>1263873
greeks and romans were shit
>>1263832
>Taking anothing other than the Holy Quran as a valid source for the deen
Stay ignorant and superstitious, brother.
I'm not a muslim but am trying to lose weight. It's been going quite well actually. Go on the odd binge, but better than it was.
>>1263841
he probably doesn't. We are so fractured these days
>>1263869
Yeah, maybe it wouldve sorta started like...last week. The catholic Church burned all Roman and Greek texts.
>>1263873
They were preserving them, but it was in secret, and on a small scale. and most of them were imported from...you guessed it, Muslims.
No, they had a union of regions allied under a common theme, free expression and ability to study, focus on education and knowledge, and liberty.
>>1263902
yes truly the teachings of allah through the prophet (pbuh) such as
>dont piss on yourself
>dont bum eachother
are of much more value
return to the sand my friend
>>1263841
Everything is in the Quran, Google it if you're too lazy.
>>1263903
so you don't pray?
>>1263904
If you want to loose weight it's mainly calories in/calories out.
Try to do cardio as well.
>>1263902
>greeks and romans were the shit
FTFY
>>1263915
that guy is christian. Anyway get out of this thread, we're trying to discuss our own stuff
>>1263900
It's ok to be wrong and shitpost.
I mean, it's sad. but it's ok. Someday you'll be an adult and look back in shame at your stupidity.
>>1263910
>euros bum each other
>cry that they are being overrun by muslims
pottery
>>1263919
Get out of the internet, a qafir invention. Use your own Muslim technology, such as flying carpets, for comunication.
>>1263931
I feel really full after I break the fast and can't move for about an hour after, does anybody else have this problem?
![kells].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/38axr3S.jpg "kells].jpg")
>>1263909
>and most of them were imported from...you guessed it, Muslims.
cite a few sources for that, didn't know Irish monks had such a thorough understanding of Arabic that they could translate it accurately to Latin
>No, they had a union of regions allied under a common theme, free expression and ability to study, focus on education and knowledge, and liberty.
and monks were sponsored by Kings specifically for the preservation of the texts
>>1263931
rather not have you lads sodomizing our goats and children to be quite frank
>>1263896
Why would I do anything about it when the US military has been killing you fuckers by the truckload for the past 15 years?
>>1263909
>>The catholic Church burned all Roman and Greek texts.
lol no. I don't even like the catholic church but this is still bullshit.
>>1263932
What if "flying carpet" is just a metaphor for the internet?
The internet is made up of wires which spread across the planet like a blanket... or a carpet, if you prefer?
>>1263943
>sending my brothers to their virgins before me
thank you :)
all that ass kicking and we're still overruning europe just by birth rate alone
TAKBIR!
>>1263662
>Let us discuss our piety and faith in the one true God.
Ba'al is not God, no matter how many people think he is, or how many people they're willing to kill who say otherwise.
Tell more about, the muslim golden age...
>>1263943
>"truck load"
>Muslims now overtake Catholics in population
I know we like to fit more that 5 people in a vehicle but not even half of us can fit in a truck
>>1263967
Allahu Akbar
Ba'al is a wasteman like you
What the shit where's AETIST to ruin this thread for everyone
Am I in bizzaro world
>>1264000
nice trips and who's aetist?
>>1263986
He's allah.
You just said Ba'al is great.
>>1264008
Aelian, an ubercatholic(although anti Francis) tripfag that posts anti islam copypastas everytime there is discussion about the religion
how long will it take us to overrun europe using peace instead of violence??
>>1264020
Yuros are already chimping out it's not feasible
>>1264019
>maybe if Catholics spent less time on 4chan and more time propagating their religion they wouldn't have gotten outnumbered by Islam
>>1264030
>Chimping out
Euros are cowards
>>1264035
Who are you quoting?
>>1264041
you underestimate how thoroughly populists can transform public opinion
Once upon a time euros were different you know, they can change their mentality again
>>1264042
didn't mean to greentext it
>>1264053
I've been waiting for like 5 years as I'm sick of the eastern euros but it's not happening.
Not even slightly worried tbqhfam.
>>1264053
Pussies.
Faggots.
>>1263961
>>1263974
>be absolute majority
>absolutely BTFO by one tiny little state every single time
Pests have only their numbers to brag about, but are worth shit. Even if Europe was the size of Belgium it would still BTFO the entire kebab world.
>>1264068
The flow of refugees has already ground to a halt
Do you read the news? The truth is that europeans nowadays only take action when they really fear that the situation is changing against their favor. Anytime something like this will happen they WILL chimp out
So as a non-muslim, why is being a quranist bad? Do they not pray? I thought that one of the universal fundamentals of Islam was that the Quran is God's word, why would anything else be needed? Genuinely curious, not trying to start a religious shit storm here.
>>1264088
what are they gonna do when they chimp out?
kill/imprison us and then nuke the middle east?
>>1264114
Hadiths are """"""reported"""""" claims that were used for political means and are nothing but dogmatic practices. Lots of them contradict the Quran.
>>1264114
everything is mentioned in the quran but not explained e.g. how to pray/fast when to pray and fast
>>1264129
The hadiths are way more bullshit than the Quran, and the Quran is more obvious fan fiction than the Bible is lmao
>>1264077
Depends how one construes numbers
Funnily enough the various sunni militant groups only number say around 300k from a population of around 5mil usable males. In contrast, the alawites have sent all the boys they've got, and they've lost nearly half of em. They're in it to the last man.
This is arab nationalism and the ottoman empire on repeat: turns out the amount of people that give a shit is way less than anyone wants to portray it as.
>>1264124
They already have, what they will do is make it impossible for their governments to continue doing the thing they are mad about(since they fear losing voters) and in this case it means stopping the flow of refugees
If it hasn't calmed down by a new election they might elect right wing parties who will enact anti muslim policies
>>1264114
quranists skip alot of stuff just because it isn't elaborated upon so they behave very loosely
>>1264163
that's pretty much happening here in denmark the "danish people's party" calling itself the anti-muslim party is the second biggest party in the country and still growing.
Redpill me on this guy islamofags.
>>1264169
He tried to say Isreal is Gog and Magog because they were drying up this river that Gog and Magog were predicted to dry up...
It's now back to normal level. LOL
He seems alright to me though.
I've been fasting since Tuesday evening on accident. Plain ol' forgot to eat.
Does that count?
>>1264088
The jews are reading every message I type on this shit hole, if I'm not scared of them what makes me think I'm scared of white bois?
>>1264184
Why would you be scared of JIDF? Are you paranoid?
>>1264077
All talk and no action.
>some khawarij that were predicted to get btfo are getting btfo
>meanwhile in europe, easy sailing for all
>>1264184
there aren't enough jews in the world to read all your niggardry I reckon
>>1264183
well it should count. But how can you forget? don't you get hungry?
>>1264183
Actions have no value without intention.
If you saved the whole world by accident you wouldn't get a reward for it.
If you made your best effort to save the whole world you would be rewarded for it In Sha Allah.
>>1264194
>>meanwhile in europe, easy sailing for all
only if they get help
niggers can't into swimming
>tfw they don't send their women over in sturdier ships titanic-style
>tfw no harems of qts to convert
you faggots just leave them at home
>>1264207
I'm literally already in England, I prayed 3 times in the mosque so far and it was packed each time.
>>1264206
hownew.ru
you'd be on /pol/ if you weren't full of melanin and inferior genes tb h
>>1264214
did you float there on a door
>implying I give a shit if you turn angloland into zimbabwe 2.0
enjoy, they ruined my country well enough
>>1264199
I only get actually hungry every 36-48 hours. On Monday I had two pizzas for dinner, then ate only a bowl of cereal Tuesday evening, and after that I sort of forgot about food.
Tonight I feast, but I'm not sure on what.
>>1264206
Jewish Internet Defense Force
It sounds like a joke, but it's an actual thing
>>1263763
>world thought Earth was flat
>to begin with, the earth when seen from above is said to look like those balls that are covered with twelve pieces of leather; it is divided into patches of various colors, of which the colors which we see here may be regarded as samples, such as painters use.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Phaedo+110b
I have respect for people that fast. Even my Muslim coke dealer practises Ramadan
>>1264273
lmao is he a user?
>>1263825
>Hi, I'm a Muslims and I think the Earth is flat.
I'm going to assume you are a falseflagger trying to make Muslims look stupid.
I wonder what happens when western european countries become fully Islamic in X amount of years
will they be shitholes like Pakistan and Iraq? Or will le Islam be interpreted correctly?
>>1264317
> shitholes like Pakistan and Iraq
Turkey at worst. They are best example of muslim europeans that you can look upon.
>>1264317
All memes will become real
>>1264324
>turks
>muslim europeans
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
fasting more than 19 hours is hard.
Can I fast on the same hours as mecca instead?
>>1264317
I think they'll turn into shitholes
>>1264310
No the Earth is flat you fucking asshole, do you also beleive in Evolution?
I'm not saying that Muslims beleive the Earth is Flat, BUT I'm Muslim and I know the Earth is Flat and there is nothing contradictory about that in the Qur'an.
On youtube you have more than a couple of videos of people who left Islam because the Qur'an explains the Earth is Flat. The joke is on them apparently...
>>1264324
Those would be bosnians and albanians. You know, actual muslims in Europe.
Both are shitholes though.
>>1264488
tbf so are all the Christian countries right beside them.
>>1264530
croatia is great.
>>1264324
>turks
>european
Minor asian memes.
When will they die?
>>1264317
The Christian minority will whine and fade out
Then 1,000 years from now there will be neo-christians LARPing in cardboard churches every weekend with the Muslim majority saying "Islam is European heritage & tradition, fedorafags"
>>1264530
everybody is atheist these days
>>1264317
They will become shitholes like pakistan and Iraq because not converted europeans with their low fertility but iraqis and pakistanis will inherit europe.
>>1264808
european fertility is decreasing?
are you sure? I only thought they didn't feel like having kids
>>1264850
Thats what I meant with fertility,
the 68er generation with its commi/liberal surge was the one that stopped multiplying on replacement level.
My grandmother's mother made 7 kids, she made three my mother made one ;_;
In eastern europe it is because people want to give their kids an adequate lifestyle like in the media.
Muzzies stash 3 kids in a room, use statecash to finance it and accept more poverty for the blessing of many children, which the natives are too ashamed off.
>>1263662
Good thing there can be a nice thread about Ramadan now. What made me as with fasting was the fact that I didn't see this really possible.
>>1264164
>Skip a lot of stuff
More like avoid retarded shit that doesn't exist in the quran in the first place,your ''elaborations'' are too far fetched and would have never been accepted by anyone sane if the wahabis werent shilling it to death,hurr music is haram and dogs are filthy because this obscure hadith said so,you're putting the words of some random neckbeard on the same level as god when you listen to the stuff he tells you to do that aren't at all mentioned in the quran.
>>1265240
This.
Islam is a religion of lies, propagated by liars whose prophet was a warlord.
>>1265255
Islam is the truth. Muslims will win. Allah is one.
>>1265277
t. swede
>>1264143
STOP THIS MEME REEEEEEEEE EVERYTHING IS IN THERE YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO READ PROPERLY
Prayer times are clearly stated in the Quran
The Dawn Prayer (Fajr in Arabic) given in 11:114, 24:58
The Noon Prayer (Zuher in Arabic) , given in 17:78 and 30:18
The Afternoon Prayer (Asr in Arabic), given in 2:238
The sunset Prayer (Maghrib in Arabic), given in 11:114
The Night Prayer (Isha in Arabic), given in 24:58
>How to pray
First of all islam is based on the practices that were founded by Abraham (pbuh) and the quran that was delivered through Muhammad (pbuh)
Prayer was not established by Muhammad (pbuh) but by Abraham (pbuh) 22:78
for it to be practiced by submitters to god [Quran 2:127-128]
And it was still being practiced before muhammad (pbuh) delivered the Quran 8:33-35
Fasting was also established before the quran was delivered [Quran 2:187]
During the time where muhammad (pbuh) started preaching the practices of abraham were not lost but were common knowledge,some of which were changed and those were the ones that were restored in the quran which is why unlike the prayers and fasting it was actually instructed of how it should be done such as abluution [Quran 5:6]
Tl;dr the practices of abraham were common knowledge as they are today and all you had to do was to observe how it was done and learn.
Hello fellow mudsh... I mean muslims, anyone knows where to join ISIS?
I'm asking for a friend
Not CIA, btw haha LOL
>>1264317
Muslims do not genuinely believe this meme, right?
The flow of refugees and migrants has stopped and anti muslim sentiment is back, if you believe this you are as delusional as /pol/
>>1266539
>The flow of refugees and migrants has stopped and anti muslim sentiment is back, if you believe this you are as delusional as /pol/
Like 50% of "muslims" in this thread are /pol/acks
What can you tell me about Baha'is?
What do they believe? Are they just extremely heretical muslims???
>>1263663
So stop.
>>1263662
>Start a religion in probably the worst place on earth
>Hey guys, if you truly believe you'll starve and dehydrate yourselves
>Heat stroke is just evil forces playing games to test your faith
No wonder they are so cranky. Give them a snickers bar or something. I do love eating in front of Muslims during this time of year though.
>>1267116
>extremely heretical
For you.
>>1263733
Mostly arrogance and corruption for a long time now its corruption , weakness and foreign intervention.
>>1263779
I get the same especially this time of the year when all the girls are wearing hotpants and stuff.
Am I still on 4chan?
I thought Muslims never existed on here or is everyone trolling?
>>1267808
No we actually exist but there are probably also trolls etc in this thread.
>>1267808
http://www.strawpoll.me/10407759/
We are 5% of this board.
>>1265240
Dogs are pretty shit though.
>>1267846
Dogs are cool and loyal. Fuck you.
>>1267893
You can't swear in Ramadan. Hold your tongue.
>>1265240
based
>>1267949
He is right though dogs are the best companions a man can have.
>>1268193
they'll turn on you and kill you if you starve them and then they'll eat you. They are not fail safe
>>1264207
>syrian refugees.jpg
>>1268193
Dogs are filthy and disgusting. No wonder a lot of Muslims naturally hate dogs from birth.
>>1268270
t. Ahmed
>>1268270
t.xin ming
>>1268283
why would you eat a dog after calling it filthy and disgusting
>>1268293
They torture dogs too but i'm sure you don't want me to post the gifs.
>>1268306
Chinks torture dogs. What's your point?
>>1267116
To each his own. We as a community need to tear away from the polarizing works of people like ibn Taymiyyah, ibn Qayyim, and ibn Abdel Wahhab. They're monotheists as far as I know, and the Quran states we should not even so much as insult the idols of the polytheist, as far as I'm concerned we should extend them the same courtesy.
>>1268495
yeah that's alright
>>1268270
Good, no wonder dogs hate muslims.
>>1263662
Wrong forum. Try /pol/.
>>1268215
Which is exactly what happens if you intentionally starve human beings...
>>1263763
I've read it in Arabic and it doesn't say anything about the earth being round or "egg-shaped". It just says that god spread it out
>>1263866
Not him but my primary language is Arabic and I've been studying it for a while and the word دحاها literally means spread out. It's not debatable and nothing in the passage implies that the earth was made round or egg-shaped
But that doesn't necessarily mean that the earth is flat
>>1263903
Why do non-arab Muslims insist on adding Arabic words to their speech? You know that deen literally means religion, right?
>>1264207
Why are all of them Indians? Aren't they supposed to be refugees?
>>1265240
> Muhammad said X
> X is too ridiculous
> Therefore Muhammad didn't say X
nice logic there
Yeah the fast is going pretty well, I've been getting lots of sleep this year which is helping and fuck her right in the pussy.
>>1271939
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