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Been interested in the Spanish Civil War thanks to Hearts of Iron 4. What do you guys recommend I read/watch to learn about it?
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>>1261123
Everything is slightly biased. It wasn't just about republicans and monarchists but for most people nazis vs commies and all the good books and documentaries are always like "yeah the republicans did some bad stuff but the Franko's forces were still way worse." even though it's much better for everyone that Franko won rather than Spain becoming a communist shithole that would probably aid Stalin. Not to mention it's actually offensive to all the victims of the communist forces to basically dismiss as unimportant.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War
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>>1261123
not for any historical value but 'For Whom the Bell Tolls' is probably Hemingway's greatest work.
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I watched this doc series and found it to be decent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7S9XcDMkdA
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>>1261148
you sound pretty biased yourself anon
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Thanks everyone

>>1261160
I found the ebook of this and will give it a read. I've only read a Farewell to Arms and enjoyed it.
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>>1261123

Stanley Payne's books

The Portraitists of Power episode on Franco

Last Crusade: Spain 1936 by Warren H. Carroll

If you developed an interest in Spain in general I would also recommend Carroll's book on Queen Isabella
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>>1261160
Did you feel it move?
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>>1261188
Thanks

>>1261164
Watching this, seems good so far
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>>1261225
the earth?
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>>1261123
Of course it's biased, because as >>1261148 pointed out everything is. But George Orwell's Homage to Catalonia is pretty good.

If you want a movie its not very historically accurate but La lengua de la mariposa is beautiful.
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>>1261345
It's pretty highly rated online. I'll make sure to watch it.

I think I'll finish up this documentary series, read For Whom the Bell Tolls and Homage to Catalonia, watch that film, and then read some more scholarly works.
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>>1261345
Just finished reading that not long ago 2bh. Great book.
>tfw you'll never witness 1936 Anarcho-Socialist Barcelona before Leninist scumbags ruined it
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>>1261478
If you know spanish pretty much 50% of the literature in that country is either about the war and/or Franco.
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>>1262431
And movies. And theatre, and EVERYTHING. We have a serious problem about it. No one cares for these things nowadays. No one. But the industry keeps making them.
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>>1262594
I agree. I almost learn to hate history thanks to that. I had to grow an interest for history outside of Spain and for a long time until I started reading about medieval stuff that included the peninsula I wasn't interested in the history of our country.
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>>1262431
>>1262594
>>1262628
That's a shame, but understandable. It's a lot like how WW2 movies got cliched at a certain point here in the US.
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>>1261123
everything I know about it comes from " Pan's labyrinth"
nothing else to say about it other than it being a chimpout between proto-Spics
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>>1262431
>>1262594

Not really.
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>>1261123
It was less republicans (communists) vs nationalists (facists) and the Nationalists, consisting of nationalists, traditionalists, facists, conservatives, the army, and others unified under Franco while the Republicans, consisting of republicans, progressives, communists, anarchists, the navy, and other did not unify and were beaten by Franco. Also Franco wasn't really a facist, per se, more just a traditional dictator
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here is a doco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPl_Y3Qdb7Y

Antony Beevor's book is alright in general but it gets some small things wrong
the main arguments of that book are good though

Homage to Catalonia is a classic and mainly if you want to read more about this Abel Paz does really thorough research and was actually there
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>>1263180
Nah it goes beyond that because it also gets into politics sometimes.

>>1263813
Yes really. Even at public schools.
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>>1264487
Thanks anon
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I'd recommend Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell
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Everything that you will get is anti-Franco propaganda,so you will just be wasting your time unless you want to read the same rhethoric all the time
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>>1264519
>Even at public schools.
maybe you are exaggerating a bit mate, there was a boom of civil war movies and literature a while ago (I mean before 1975 you couldn't do them because of censorship) but I don't think I've seen a spanish movie about the Civil War come out since Pan's Labyrinth and that one wasn't even about the Civil War.
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>>1266557
There was a recent civil war movie that won a Goya
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>>1266579

Pa negre?
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>>1266605
Yep. And there was another one in 2013 that was made for teenagers (having Mario Casas as the protagonist). All Spanish history films except the recent one about the death of Isabel la Católica are all about the civil war
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>>1266624

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzl0Ar3H5f8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zTgmI4CX_E
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSixuxUF6KA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOneqLSDY_o
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Paul Preston has a book about the republic and the Civil War it must be good since here we had to study it
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>>1266695
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOneqLSDY_o

>King Carlos II of Navarre once sent his brother Luis to lead a military expedition into Albania and conquer that land for the Kingdom of Navarre. Since Albania was a part of the dowry of Luis' wife, it seemed like a reasonable idea at the time.

What the hell, Navarre, what the hell...
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>>1266557
We're not talking about movies but media and culture in general. The civil war-francism set is overrepresented.
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