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The origins of the Etruscans
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I want to discuss this interesting topic with you all.

I'll now express my opinion on the topic, that is that the Etruscan culture was born in the Italian soil and originates from there, nowhere else as there is no archaeological evidence to prove it.

These are the reasons why the theory of their origin from Lydia is wrong:


1)The only argument for their Lydian origins is that many different ancient historians stated this.

Now, we know well how inaccurate most ancient historians could be, often using mythological accounts to explain the history of an enthic group or region.
The historian who started the tradition of the Lydian orgins of the Etruscan was Herodotus, whom we know for often being inaccurate and giving semi mythological accounts, such as that of the Eritrean origin of the Phoenicians or that of the Egyptian origin of the people of Cholchis (Nowadays Georgia).
2)Let's look at the archaeological evidence, not only early iron age Lydians spoke Lydian, an Indo European language, but their culture and art was very different from that of the Etruscans, Etruscan art is original to Italy and unique, being somewhat influenced by Greek art (the Kuroi mostly), also the Etruscans were much more artistically active than the Lydians, who didn't leave us any notable artistic masterpiece, in opposition to the hundreds of Etruscan frescos, statues and sarcophagi, that again, are unique to Etruria and not found in Lydia, how's that possible? Did the Etruscans suddendly chang language and started being much more artistically productive in their new lands? this makes no sense. If Lydia was their homeland one would expect to find at least some mound tombs decorated with frescos like those of Etruria, or some of the typical sarcophagi, none of that is present in Lydia.
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>>1312864
Even the Etruscan architecture has no parallels in Lydia, the arc for instance was developed in Etruria and is a huge element of the Etruscan architecture, there are no arches in ancient Lydia.
Also what about Bronze age Lydia?
Well first of all it wasn't even called Lydia back then, nor Sardis was ever mentioned at the time by the Hittities, and we know that they were a Luwian people, so still very much Indo European, differently from the Etruscans, who spoke an isolated language, again, the Bronze age people who inhabited what would have been Lydia did not leave us anything that suggests that they were the ancestors of the Etruscans.
3)Another easily debunkable argument in favor of the Anatolian origin of the Etruscans is the Lemons stele, written in a language similar to Etruscan, which is for some a proof of their Eastern origins, this makes no sense because:
1)The stele has been dated to the sixth-fifth century bc, while the first documents in the Etruscan langauge date back to the 7th of perhaps even 8th century bc, so if anything this is a proof of an Etruscan outpost/settlement on the island, as we know that the Etruscans were known as sailors and pirates by the Greeks, it is quite possible that they installed some ports in the Agean to trade with the Greeks.
2)The Lemnian language is only attested on the island and nowhere else, not in mainland Anatolia or Lydia, where people spoke Lydian and other Indo European langauges.
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>>1312866
Just a note: Anatolian Indo-European languages were very different from all other indo-European languages.
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So what are the Etruscans then?
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>>1313054
People who had lived in Europe for thousands of years, I don't see why they should have come from elsewhere, with its mines and contacts with other European and Mediterranean cultures Etruria was a favorable ground for civilizations to grow, nothing eerie about it.
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