Did the Manchus ruin China?
Yes.
lol fuck no
make the Qing Dynasty great again
鞏金甌,
承天幬,
民物欣鳧藻,
喜同袍,
清時幸遭。
真熙皞,
帝國蒼穹保。
天高高,
海滔滔。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PpvxMoMeTQ
>>1236395
has someone said yes....?
China instantly became the Sick Man of Asia once the Manchus were in power.
Lost a war to the British over Opium. Coastal cities invaded and taken over by European powers.
Only looked powerful because sheer size and the fact that the rest of asia was more shit, except Japan of course.
>>1236395
What did you expect from nomadic horse niggers?
>>1236723
Yes, because the Ming would have handled the situation SOOO much better than the Qing. There were some fuck ups that the Manchus did, but would it have changed anything in the long run about how China gets shafted by the rest of the world?
>>1236756
If the Manchus weren't in power then the Taiping Rebellion would never have happened which completely fucked over the country.
>>1236756
Honestly, how many nations in the world at the time COULD have stood up to the British Navy in a conflict like the First Opium War?
France, the United States perhaps. I don't know the state of the Iberian Navy, but that's about it. Who else was fielding iron steamships in large numbers?
>>1236395
The Mongols ruined China.
The Ming just managed to stop the bleeding, but they were never able to reach the heights of the Song.
Qing were dealt a shitty hand.
>>1236781
>massive religious civil war
>implying any dynasty would have taken such a large scale heresy lightly.
>>1236816
The qing were manchu, which were kind such mongols 2.0
