wtf is peronism? Third position quasi-socialism?
Also, if all of the Argies on 4chan hate it, then why are all of their presidents peronists?
>>1202031
Poverty,or as lefties like to call it progress
Why the fuck would you assume that people on 4chan are representative of a country's electorate?
It was basically just a cult of personality that appealed to the working class to stay in power after it seized power through force. There was some nationalism and anti-imperial sentiment, too, which played a big role.
Tbh I got most of my info about it from Evita.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI8i055X398
>>1204674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tpvxsJAZPk&list=PL2yWTXQ4y8vkqHcDSTL00tNA2FRzW953g
Here's what I know about Peronist economics
>>1204651
>ignoring all the right wing dictatorships during that time
Le lefties aimirite?
>>1205054
Pinochet did nothing wrong
>>1202031
Unlike in the US and Europe, where nationalism is most commonly a right-wing phenomenon, nationalism in Latin America is common among parties, regardless of the rest of their ideology. Peron was first and foremost an Argentine nationalist, and the ideology that bears his name is basically straightforward Latin American populism, which often entails social democratic principles.
>>1205201
>socialist now in control of Chile
>he did nothing wrong
>>1205210
"My spirit will rise from the grave, and the whole world will know that I was right." -A. Pinochet
Unrelated but fun fact:
That guy on the bill had this pseudo-police force nicknamed "La Marzorca" (the corn knob), if you talked shit about Rosas, they would fuck you up.
One of their methods of torture had them shoving a corn knob up your ass, hence the name.
Fun times, they beheaded people just as much as a modern mexican narco.
>>1204651
>peron is openly admirer of fascism
>every social indicator goes to shit with the right wing dictatorship
>neoliberalism in the 90s leads to the biggest crisis in argentina's history
>"Poverty,or as lefties like to call it progress"
Right wingers in argentina are the most retarded people i know.
>>1202031
Peronism was nazi agent who was formed and led by them, he tried to be Hitler in Argentina, well he actually succeeded , not only did he copy all economic and social policies from the nazis but he was also a member of the army, went to jail wrote a book ,etc. He also had actual German nazis as part of his governmnet
After he did pretty much what Hitler had done in Germany he pissed the US who didn't want competition in the continent and jewish bankers as he nationalized all banks including the central bank created by the previous administration in 1935, all the members of the bank were british jews who had worked in british/jewish banks
So from his first period onward Argentina hadn't got a single ounce of stability. He had 2 more periods but he had no power in them as each successive coup took more and more power from the state and gave it to the corporations by creating monopolies, coerced important people to leave or outright killed them, actually let banks plunder the country, fucked the national industry to the point of bankruptcy,etc. These douche bags even created constitutions without calling for a constitutional assembly.
No one else ever finished a democratic government period.
To make opposition to the dictatorships all political parties but a handful fused with Peronism creating essentially a 2 party system the pseudo super left (commie agents) which called themselves peronists and the right (US agents). Peron was neither he was a nazi. The clusterfuck in his own movement composed by multiple groups who had opposed ideologies varying from extreme left to extreme right made him also powerless from the inside specially given than a good chunk were actual communists like a ton of them applauded che guevara, Peron would have probably gotten him shot.
>>1207786
Once the penultimate coup was done Peron returned to the country and these guerrillas (Montoneros) plus the clusterfuck of political movements that had become peronists most which probably were infiltrated whose leaders are not much different from Zimbabwe mugabe went to meet him, instead of working toghether for the good of the country, they actually just wanted to gain Peron's favour which would mean absolute power as the population was all with Peron, this caused a bunch of armed confrontation. Peron had told them to fuck off btw
The last coup , the one that started from the 70s was the worst, literally sold out, they actually did for the most part the exact same thing that was done to the weimar republic and destroyed everything and actually made Argentina a guinea pig for future economic policies known as Reaganconomics Theres no proof or nothing is being said cause they are in power but there were guerrillas that fought the last 2 dictatorships and i believe they were actual communists.
And so in 83 something the coup finally fell, not before the Malvinas war that indebted the country along what it was done in the 70s for more than half of the GDP, before the coup the debt was 7% of the GDP, not to mention, all the monopolies, destroyed political scene, lack of intelectual elite who was coerced to leave,etc,etc
But by that time Peron had already died so all that was left are these bunch of power hungry douchebags who couldn't give a shit about the country and in fact a good chunk are/were actual communists, instead of separating they just tagged along with peronism. They are all peronism but have different groups inside of them
These people have essentially been in power since then
>>1207789
The first democratic government was presided by Alfonsin a non peronist from a center left party called radicalism. Im not sure what to make up from him since he recognized the debt (50%+) which he shouldn't have since theres a law that prevents countries from recognizing the debt from legitimate governments, the debt and its interests which were in pesos were so high, the country couldn't possibly pay which led to inflation. The IMF wanted austerity but austerity leads to your country getting destroyed so the government did what the US is currently doing now, to print money, this caused inflation which led them to freeze prices and interest rates. This was so unsustainable they created a new currency called austral and pegged it to the dollar, the logic was , we do this up until the industry and export grows and then we remove it
but the coups had been utter successful, there was 1 group that controlled all media, there was 1 giant corporate labor union that controlled the workers of the most important sectors, a bunch of monopolies and oligopolies running the base of the economy and most importantly one giant political party who would refuse to let one that isn't from them to rule.
Although none of this compare to the formation and brainwashing of several generations who all became uber anti authoritarian and nacionalism liberal leftists who then would breed my generation, a bunch of deranged useless mouth breathing retards who don't care about anything and don't know shit about anything. The intellectual difference between their parents and them is the difference between a nigger african and a nobel prize winner. The coups had essentially deleted all Argentina's history that preceded them from the collective concussion of the people.
>>1207795
So anyways Alfonsin got fucked by literally anyone and finally market coupd. So Argentina so far was a guinea pig for Reganconomics and non austerity crisis measures but there was one more, the future European Union experiment
The next dude that came was Carlos Menem from the rightwing of peronist, his minister Cavallo was a dear friend of the rockefellers and he put in the economic gabinet bunch of people who worked in foreing financial institutions, you know which. He pegged the currency to the dollar 1:1 and removed all trade barriers, sounds familiar? literally the EU. This led to the 2001 crisis. All national industry got destroyed, some went bankrupt cause shit from china costed 1/3, other sold everything as it was 1 peso 1 dollar, 50 million pesos was 50 million dollars after all, he destroyed the national security by federalizing everyhitng , same deal with education and health, dismantled the army and so on. Whats curious is that Alfonsin and his people also participated in the plundering
But wait, the government that succeeded him was a radical called Antonio De la Rua. he got also couped in 2001 by the peronists plus the oligarchs
In deed, The groups of power in Argentina were all puppets from the US the left , right and everyone else. The same people rotating sectors of peronism have been in power of the country f or 40 years!
>>1202031
italo-populism, just that
>>1207799
after the coup there were like 6 presidents in a week, no one wanted to do what it had to be done and be politically fucked forever. a year later dude Kirchner won , they were the most mega commies there have ever been but they essentially did the same shit menem did, instead of fixing the currency, they just subsidized everything. The end result is the same, 0 real growth as niggers on welfare don't produce, it was more redistribution of misery, overtaxation of the middle class and a bankrupt country. They even defaulted a payment of the IMF and agreed the US court jurisdiction over the debt accepted to use public assets as grantee of payment, paid the IMF 10 billions in cash. They actuallly did pretty much everything menem did but their mission was not that. The economy was already destroyed, so were public services ,infrastructure,etc.
Their mission was to destroy society forever and to divide it, remember Argentina which was fairly homogeneous survived over 7 coups and its population had always been against foreing intervention, foreing goods ,anti democracy, foreingers owning important assets etc. This is the last experiment, the destruction of a predominantly European nation. Up until the 90s Argentina was 80-90% European and even those who were not still had European values, crime was nearly 0 .
>>1207814
After the 2001 crisis where half of the country went bankrupt they starting to handle welfare in mass, these subsidies were tested in a province called Entre Rios. They gave 300 or $90 per kid to niggers who had more than 9 kids, and surprise, niggers tried as hard as they could to get $90 which is nowhere enough to fulfill all the kids necessities pr their own by that matter. After this overwhelming success they made it national, not only that, they are also paid for
1 being unemployed
2 being married and unemployed
3 sending their kid to schools which filled public schools with favela niggers who could give 2 fucks about learning, as long as they get paid they are good. so they essentially privatized the shcool system as no one not even the poor from their own kind want to let their kids near them
4 being pregnant
5 being poor in general, they pay almost nothing for services
Immigrants can get these benefits too!, sounds similar to whats going on in Europe right now?
That wasn't enough tho
>>1207824
They also bash the army and the police, rewrite history to make it more commies friendly, even removed statues like one from colon. They changed the 100 bill from the guy who conquered the entire south, fixed the political climate of the time, build a bunch of institution, railway ,etc for Eva Peron, Perons wife. Approved laws like forced minimal amount of female in congress, gay and transexual marriage,etc. Literally defamed one of the best president in history who we own our european heritage since he was behind the immigration, created the public school system, built 7k miles of railway, some universities, mines, industries mainly mining sector ,etc. Before him only a little % of the population was able to write and read after him we had literacy on par with 1st world countries, and all because he hated niggers with passion, he even wrote a 300 pages book filled with hate towards them
They wanted to make us latinamerican (their own words) a complete shithole to rewrite our identity and destroy it , to make us slaves forever, to turn the country into Africa and im afraid we are fucked. The amount of nigger foreigners that keep coming is staggering we already have millions of them who are having 6 kids + each thanks to the welfare, better to get that than nothing of course who cares about the kids
>>1207828
Their Era is one of a wasted opportunity? Not exactly, all the commies ended up working for the globalist goals, they succeeded in their assignment. They had more income of dollars than all the previous governments but no, nothing got done, it ended up in the pockets of foreing companies, foreing banks government treasury which they plundered and are now being trialed for, just like during the dictatorships and all "peronist" governments. They didn't even buy less than 2 billions in bons that were left which are now costing us over 12 billions
After the 2008 crisis exports prices went down which caused the country to be in perpetual deficit and no adjustment can be made since niggers are going to chimp out. they even protest to have their shit adjusted for inflation. Now there are several generation of niggers who had never worked nor care, they devolved into subhumans and some even protohumans (they don't even give a shit about living, they have involved into animals)
I will destroy peronism
>>1207845
The only thing i can't make sense of is that they tried to get close to Russia Iran and China while hating on the US and israel and yet they did everything those 2 could have wanted. I wonder if the world is unipolar and we just don't know or if they were just weak faggots
there were multiple coups attempt during Cristina Kirchner government in her last period too but nothing happened tho, i wonder if they were just testing the society's tolerance just for the next dude who is a literally an american puppet in all the sense of the word, 2 weeks into his period Merkel said she would come which she didn't Holande came, even obama came here 4 months into it or if they were legitimately trying to take her down/
Also forgot the 35 administration which made the Jewish bank was a 11 year coups
So if you are american or European be scared cause the immigrant flood will be the end of your nation, the last stage is essentially whats happening in south africa and ultimately zimbabwe . Everything has already been tested out
Why were so many coups in the 1900s? cause all the patrician families were of spanish decent and they had the costume of having 4 sons, 1 in the church, 1 in the army, 1 lawyer, 1 doctor, so the core was already rotten people had always been linked to britain, the upper classes in the 1800s became rich through doing jewery with loans taken by corrupt governments from jewish bankers which also caused a bunch of crisis , in one default, the one from the late 1890s we bankrupted the baring brothers who got bailed out by the British government. All the money of the loan was used to create banks who gave loans to people at a higher interest rate
>>1207853
>jew puppet destroying anything
>he already accepted 2 US bases to be installed in the country
>>1207789
>Malvinas war
O forgot, this war ended in the unconditional surrender of Argentina but the final terms were negotiated decade later by Cavallo. Since the coup was orchestrated by the US one can think the Malvina war was done to make Argentina a colony forever , saving Margaret Thatcher career was a bonus
its not like Britain would have invaded the country or the brits hated us that much to give their approval , they probably didn't even know where the islands were or Argentina for that matter. Why the unconditional surrender?
No one knows what the fuck cavallo signed almost no one knows he did. Theres a book about it but its impossible to find
Argie here
Fascism with a paint coat of sindicalism to appeal to post WW2 masses. It's plan was to turn Argentina into a sort of 4th reich with Chile and Brazil as it's allies and with a little help from nazi refugees.
Today only the sindicalist part remains, hence why right wingers regard peronism as a left movement.
Anything of worth it once had is beyond saving though. I'd let it die.
>Also, if all of the Argies on 4chan hate it, then why are all of their presidents peronists?
Because the aforementioned sindicalist aspect of peronism appeals to the lower classes, i.e: the majority. And for good measure too, because otherwise those lower classes would have been swallowed whole by marxist parties (also the reason why marxist argies also hate peronism). I'd say this is the only positive legacy it has left.
>>1207881
One last bit
>Why do peronists always win?
They are the most powerful party, Radical party got couped twice which instated the idea only peronists can rule, people want stability but don't vote the right wing party who are literally US puppets (so is the left but they just don't say so) I personally not know which isn't one except for independents but they don't really have much power
In the 90s the peronists passed a law that was complete bullshit, lay of lemas, essentially you didn't vote for a candidate but for a party so the guy who got the highest amount of votes from the party which got the highest amount of votes would always win, and peronists have always had majority. It was removed way later
Kitchener came to power because it was him or menem, they clearly did it on purpose, everyone hated menem.
They manage to govern a decade on the back of the commodity prices
but now everyone realized the truth but it was too late
In the end Brave new world was right
>>1208018
thanks Argiebro, good writeup
>>1208018
Wait one last last bit i just remember
The fucking kirchners let nigger bolivians celebrate their fucking independence day in front of our white house equivalent and they omit twice the fucking act of the day San Martin the one who fucking gave us independence and freed Peru Chile and the lands that would become Uruguay and Paraguay
In the 200 aniversary of the country's birth tehy fucking made it native theme, natives are less than 2% of the population. not a single thing from the 1800-1900s era aside from the traditional Soldiers "Granaderos", esentially a copy of french troops. The army back then was organized by a french guy called Linier to fight back the brits invasions. The neighborhood named after him is now overflowing with nigger Peruvian and Bolivians
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And the patrician relation with Britain came to be cause Britain essentially controlled all maritime trade and almost all the infrastructure, everything of the country, pretty much everything from before the 1880s and agrarian processing industries (patricians owned land and live from it couldn't care much less about anything else) were also owned by them too, well not british but jews, the rothschilds . Other industries from other countries came namely Germany and French and they constantly had conflict with the british ones, much later US corporations came. The entirety of the infrastructure was nationalized by Peron
one of the reasons Argentina didn't became massively rich after WW1 was cause they defended the German companies and "fought" against Britain who did all that was in their power to force us to submit but we didn't. In WW2 we actually benefited cause no one has the power to meddle with us aside from the US , we were neutral but only allowed to trade with allied nations and no one else
This country in 200 years was probably severing for like 30-40 of them.
First the Spanish and British
Then British and French
Then British and US
now just US
>>1207795
>>1207799
The 70s dictatorship had a period of 1:1 currency parity with the dolar and no trade restrictions they even made propaganda portraying foreing goods as top quality while portraying the national products as chinese garbage, once money ran out they essentially did austerity which led to hyperinflation, they fucking did austerity WHILE having hyperinflation, it was nuts. They froze the salaries of public workers when shit could cost 3 times what you paid the other day. it was so bad companies and business didn't issue prices up of what they sold up to the end of the day. If you sold fabric to make clothes you wouldn't charge them up until the end of the day
in the 80s Alfonsin created the austral and pegged it to the dollar 0,8 : 1 as a lot of debts were in pesos. Since exporters didn't export to speculate with the inflation and the loan things yet again we got hyperinflation because of the lack of dollars
in the 90s 1:1 again and no trade restrictions not only they emptied the central bank reserves but took loans with ridiculously high interests rates and nationalized the private debt in fucking dollars plus loans again
In the 00s -10s the kirchner instead of subsidizing the dollars subsidized the consumption of basic needs and gifted money to niggers and foreign niggers. They increased all trade barriers but didn't build up the industry or anything so same result after the dollars ran out and similar to alfonsin the agrarian sector doesn't sale their stuff up until it can't wait.
almost 5 decades of the exact same plunder
and the worst part is that we are being mocked for having crises that are actually manufactured by foreing agents
