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>Reality is but a creation of the mind
>You cannot prove that anything exists because your empirical senses are questionable
>The only thing that is proven to exist is your counsciousness, because you think

Sounds awesome, right? But thenl he jumps to

>God must exist otherwise everything would be depressive as fuck

What am I missing?
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The part where denying god's existence would get you tried for treason and libel
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>>1199058
So, he doesn't draw any logical line between his original prepositions and God himself?
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>>1199064
No, I think he's suggesting that the whole god thing was an attempt to escape getting in legal shit.
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Can Descartes be called a solipist?
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>>1199052
>give her the dick
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>>1199052
I studied it a bit some months ago and while I liked and agreed with the idea of dualism, it seems that he ends up contradicting himself with God just existing.
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>>1199052
>>1199084
Do you also think that the sun circulates the earth because Galileo had to say so in the end?
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>The only thing that is proven to exist is your consciousness, because you think

Except a thought is a nonphysical entity, therefore you don't exists
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>>1199064

It's such a lay argument, that many beleive he was at least an agnostic like Hobbes.
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>I doubt the existence of things
>Doubt is less perfect than knowledge
>Therefore I iam thinking there is something more perfect than myself
>This thought cannot come from nothing nor from myself, since a lesser perfection cannot produce a greater perfection.
>Thus a greater perfection produced it in me.
>And, because I can conceive of an infinitude of perfections, it must be the highest perfection. I call this highest perfection God.
>Thus it has God who produces this conception in me.
>God exists.
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>>1200751
Where are the empirical proofs?
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>>1200731

Not true. You can measure thought.
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>>1200884
Using what?
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>>1200810
What part of "I doubt the existence of things" did you not get you filthy empiripleb?
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>>1200810
Empiricism will not be invented until Francis Bacon reads this man and invents it.

Descartes is Rationalism which is a literally a higher order than Empiricism. Empiricism cannot exist without a Rationalist foundation but Rationalism can exist outside the realms of empiricism.

>>1200884
The only way to measure a thought is with another thought. It's an infinite cycle. Literally every idea has "I think" as a foundation axiom.
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>>1200751
>Doubt is less perfect than knowledge
>Therefore I iam thinking there is something more perfect than myself

And what if perfection doesn't exist?

or alternatively, what if everything is perfect.
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>>1200810
All of them.
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got btfo by hegel tbqh
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>>1199052
>Reality is but a creation of the mind
>You cannot prove that anything exists because your empirical senses are questionable
>The only thing that is proven to exist is your counsciousness, because you think

that doesn't seem helpful
what's the big deal wih his philosophy?
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>>1199052
Metaphysics literally doesn't hold up without the ultimate substance that created everything.
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Because logically either everything is a circle or a line with a beginning and an end.
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>>1203833
>What are spirals
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>>1203777
It's because you're dumb anon and you can't apply basic logic to other ideas.
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>>1200731
>implying thoughts have no molecular basis.
>implying something no molecular doesnt exist.

Are you retarded or just american?
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>>1203833
Don't forget about fractals.
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>>1203777
It gets adolescent boys hooked on thinking because they can picture themselves as logic gods
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>>1200751
why can't you think of something more perfect than yourself? I don't think the idea of god has to be planted externally by god himself.
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>>1203879
If I can't know for certain that the physical things around me exist then I can't trust them to measure my thoughts. Therefore a thought cannot be trusted to exist either
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