Are there any books or articles about how logical fallacies are wrong? People always say I use them when I argue with them like I'm automatically wrong, but it always seems like a dumb copout response.
>>1167811
how logical fallacies are wrong?
that doesn't make sense. but using a fallacy doesn't make you incorrect, it just means that your argument is invalid.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
>it always seems like a dumb copout response.
Or it's you who're bad at arguing and reasoning.
>>1167811
>People always say I use them when I argue with them like I'm automatically wrong,
Get off reddit then.
Nobody I know uses "fallacy" spam. If anything just say "the fallacy fallacy dictates that fallacious reasoning does not make a conclusion false".
Posters spouting 'fallacy' only upsets me when people use them outside the context of an actual debate.
Like, I make a post for the purpose of calling someone or something garbage & shit & suitable only for mongoloids and someone turns around and starts going "NICE AD HOMINEM"
Like, no shit. That was the point of the most. To disparage the thing in question. I'm not debating you, I'm insulting you.
>>1167868
>If anything just say "the fallacy fallacy dictates that fallacious reasoning does not make a conclusion false".
There are people alive right now in this very thread that do not understand why illogical arguments are illogical.
>>1167811
Kek.
In other words you make shitty arguments and can't grasp why.
>>1167868
People who reply with "fallacy fallacy" when they have a logical fallacy pointed out are just plain idiots. You're as bad as the spammers if you do this.
A fallacy fallacy only applies when you are trying to make a positive argument based on nothing more than the fact your opponent has made a bad argument.
I agree though, people who spam "that's a fallacy!" all the time are annoying, especially as that sort of person usually uses them incorrectly. Used judiciously though it is appropriate to point them out some of the time when someone has made a blatantly fallacious argument.
Fallacies aren't always wrong. Certainly not all of them all the time.
>>1168010
If you are using a fallacy it always means your argument is invalid, even if your conclusion is by random chance correct.
>>1167976
The fallacy fallacy as I understand it just means that because there is a fallacy present in something doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. So just because someone uses a slippery slope argument doesn't mean that x wont necessarily lead to y.
>>1167844
Trying to argue with fallacious idiots using logic is like bringing a knife to a gun fight, you just can't win.
> Are there any books or articles about how logical fallacies are wrong?
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fallacies/
>>1168559
Deductive validity isn't necessary for a successful argument
>>1167811
>People btfo me because my arguments are shit and illogical, help me
Work on your arguements
