>these were Hitler's greatest """allies"""
Loving every laugh, why did he even bother with allying with Hirohito, what exactly would he gain?
>>1104091
He thought Japan could waste British and French resources in Asia and hoped they'd invade the USSR from the Pacific, which they never did.
Even the Ustase were of more use than the Italians
>>1104105
Killing serbs is always of use
>>1104134
Fuck off Albanian
>>1104091
He should have allied with Stalin. Communist or not, both were socialists and Stalin wasn't even particularly internationalistic, quite the opposite, he was isolationist. He was as nationalistic and fascistic as it gets.
But
>hurr durr muh marxism
>muh lebensraum
Why didn't his fool realize communism was just a tool Stalin used to achieve his own nationalist interests? If he jumped on the bandwagon he could still have ruled Europe. Only as a junior partner? Temporarily yes, like China. Still far better than what happened in 1945.
>>1104857
>both were socialists
>if it's not hardcore libertarian it's socialist
>>1104857
>mfw if axis consisted of Germany, USSR and Nationalist China
>>1104091
>why did he even bother with allying with Hirohito, what exactly would he gain?
A second front against USSR, which is why he sided with Japan instead of Nat. China. Though he would later realize his mistake, and both Nat. China and Germany discussed resurrection of their previous relationship. To bad Hitler was retarded and accepted everything that Japan demanded.
The funny part is that Japan never did anything Germany asked for.
>>1104091
They were the only ones eager to ally with a looser like Hutter.
>>1104869
>>1104873
I never understood why any sensible leader would give a shit about ideology or race and not simply always act in his nations interest pragmatically.
It was pragmatic to ally with the Asian Japanese, but it wasn't conceivable to treat Jews normally and ally with Russia? And even if you let Jews disappear, why fucking announce it to anyone? Why not do it the smart way and simply say you kill traitors, why make a big deal of their Jewishness?
Hitler was diabolically brilliant in some areas and a total retard in other areas.
>>1104902
Stalin was a lot smarter. Your religion or color didn't matter. If you even as much as uttered a single negative thing about your country you and your family might have disappeared. And honestly nobody gave a shit in the whole world, everyone was doing that. What irritated the world was that Hitler targeted specifically Jews because of their Jewishness, even elevating them to martyr status. If you want to let a group disappear, just shut the fuck up about it and don't brag about it.
>>1104902
>It was pragmatic to ally with the Asian Japanese
>
All Japan did was making a partner of Germany weaker
Ceasing all German trade and capital in China
Stop crucial German import of materials from China
Germany expoditonary soldiers from China
There is a reason why Germany wanted to resume realtions with Chiang, but by that time it was already to late.
It might seem as the logical choise at the time considering
>ally a warlord
>ally a country
Hitler should have seen the red flag when Japan demanded that Germany left China
>>1104902
> ideology
The question is WHAT exactly is the most beneficial thing in the long run.
Ideology answers that question.
>>1104091
A naval power that could tie down 40% of American power.
Germany and Japan weren't really allies, more like two countries that fought the same countries. Germany was a cunt to Japan all the time, including allying with the Soviets/Russia who were Japan's worst enemy for a century and who had just fought Japan in Mongolia.
>>1104957
There is no long run. That's my point. The world is far too dynamic and complicated for that. People came up with religion, another ideology, because they thought, people would live in scarcity in the long run. They couldn't possibly know that scientific progress made a society possible in which you can enjoy life here and now and not delay it in the afterlife.
The idiot Hitler also thought that in the long run Germany would need a lot of space in order to feed its population, unable to foretell the progress and automation in the crop industry etc... that is precisely the reason why humans should never have a lot of power and be in charge of ideology, because humans are fucking stupid and shortsighted.
>>1104902
>I never understood why any sensible leader would give a shit about ideology other than my own.
>>1105245
>I can't think for myself. I need a guru to spoonfeed me reality.
>>1105251
Good thing Hitler and Stalin were both ideological innovators.
Which is more than you can say.
>>1105260
Not really. Rich people are greedy and want to maintain their wealth and power. Ethnic groups tend to be among themselves and isolate themselves.
I don't need fucking communism and Nazism to tell me those simple truths. These ideologies simply recycled old stuff and used it to get power. But those ideologies wouldn't have been possible if the major ideology Christianity didn't pave the way.
>>1105264
>Not really. Jews are greedy and want to maintain their wealth and power. Ethnic groups tend to be among themselves and isolate themselves.
>I don't need fucking sophisms to tell me those simple truths.
See how fucking easy it is?
>>1104091
Mussolini in this picture looks exactly like an Algerian or Tunisian. How did Hitler feel knowing that his greatest allies were non-whites (Japanese, Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, Bosnians, Arabs) while he waged war against Northern European countries?
>>1105845
According to /pol/ jargon (which you are using) Hitler only fought non-whites.
>>1104244
You mad S*rb?
>>1104869
>>>/leftypol/
