Where do we go when we die?
We are automatically drafted into the skeleton war.
Where does a wave go when it hits the beach?
We're nothing but a pattern of matter, the same as a wave.
Once the pattern is broken, the matter reverts to randomness.
>>1092740
Saved go directly to the New Jerusalem; lost go to Hades to wait for their trial. Trial day, they lose and get hucked into a burning lake of fire.
Both are eternal outcomes, as we are eternal beings.
>>1092753
>Where does a wave go when it hits the beach?
Back in the ocean
>>1092755
You're fucking with me right
>>1092758
That'd be pretty cool, actually.
Life started in the ocean, when it dies it goes back to the ocean.
>>1092755
>burning lake of fire.
sounds toasty
>>1092758
I think a little ends up in the atmosphere and the sand, but yeah.
We typically go into the earth, which is fitting because we came from there.
>>1092767
>>1092777
Basically reincarnation, which makes sense because we eventually disintegrate and we are processed into different forms of energy. The Hindus got it right.
A grave if you're lucky
>>1092740
Brooklyn, nigga.
>>1092745
>We are automatically drafted into the skeleton war.
Fuck bro.
>>1092740
Remember what it was like before you were born? Picture that.
>>1092853
>Remember what it was like before you were born?
Yeah, I was literally swimming in pussy my nigga
>>1092740
you stay in this universe, the particles that make up your brain just become disorderly
>>1092740
Depends. Most are buried. Many are cremated. A few get lost and just kinda lay there.
>>1092791
Not really
>>1092740
you go back to the earth like meat for the animal them as shit an them as a flower then eat by a animal again and so on
>>1092740
When we are alive, we are, and once we die, we are not. Simple as that.
Your matter still exists, but it goes from one form to another. Your consciousness is gone though.
>>1092740
>implying you're going to die
Anon pls.
Hell
>>1092740
Nobody really knows for certain. When your physical body dies your brain and all of your other internal organs cease functioning and as far as we can tell this means the part of your brain that generates "you" that is your conscious thoughts, personality etc, ceases to exist.
However, the problem with this is that nobody can verify it. We don't actually know if we have souls or not, I don't think we do, and frankly most of the claims to the contrary are highly unconvincing to me at best, but this is not the same thing as proof of non-existence.
>"where?"
>not "when?"
looks like u have a lot 2 learn about where u go when u die haha stupid noob
>>1092740
All evidence points to consciousness being something the brain makes happen. Once the brain stops working, in all likelihood, so will consciousness.
>>1094372
>facts
lol
>>1092740
Nowhere, you just won't exist anymore.
I'm going to be stuffed and put into a museum
>>1094376
neat
>>1094372
>the facts
>>1094379
>>1094372
I thought you said facts not fiction
>>1094388
>The bible said it, I believe it, that settles it!
Ban all Christfags that act like cultists
We don't know, nobody knows, and we have no way of knowing.
>>1094401
It's circular reasoning. What don't you understand?
>>1094411
Don't do it. He will happily run in this circle endlessly.
>>1094412
Yeah why are Christfags such delusional cult members?
>>1094412
Yes. How the fuck does Trinity work?
>>1094416
This triune God (or Trinity) began to allude to this aspect of His nature right in Genesis 1:26–27. There we read that “God said, ‘Let us make man in our image’ . . . God created man in His image.” Here God is a plural noun, said is in the third-person singular verb form, and we see both the plural pronoun our and the singular His referring to the same thing (God’s image). This is not horribly confused grammar. Rather, we are being taught, in a limited way, that God is a plurality in unity. We can’t say from this verse that He is a trinity, but God progressively reveals more about Himself in later Scriptures to bring us to that conclusion.
In Isaiah 48:12–16 we find the speaker in the passage describing himself as the Creator and yet saying that “the Lord God and His Spirit have sent Me.” This is further hinting at the doctrine of the trinity, which becomes very clear in the New Testament. There are many other Old Testament Scriptures that hint at the same idea.
In Matthew 28:18–20 Jesus command His disciples to baptize His followers in the name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. John’s Gospel tells us that “the Word” is God who became man in Jesus Christ (John 1:1–3, 14). Jesus was fully man and fully God. Many other verses combine together to teach that God is triune.
As a start on a thorough discussion on this topic, the chart in pic related is an accumulation of many of the passages that show the deity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
>>1092740
As far we know consiousness is a process in the cerebral hemispheres in all animal life, we have no idea if plants are actually consious but they can actually communicate with eachother and can think as well, fungus are even more alien than that as there is a species of fungus that can navigate a maze and HAS NO FUCKING BRAIN.
Perhaps our intelligence is based on this meatsack because of our animal physiology? If fungus and brains are consious then it means consiousness can exist outside of a neural system which would change our understanding of everything.
>>1094418
>there is a species of fungus that can navigate a maze and HAS NO FUCKING BRAIN
1 word: soul
>>1094425
ATHEISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH HOLY SHIT
>>1094425
>soul
No its called the slime mould
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czk4xgdhdY4
>>1094422
>"You believe"
>shit I don't actually believe
Every fucking time with you Christcucks.
>>1094437
What do you believe?
>>1094442
I believe Christfags need to stop behaving like proselytizing faggots
>>1094442
We believe you are idiots who shouldnt be take seriously, its is unbelievable you think one religion tells the story of reality itself when there are thousands.
>>1094447
Well, what are your spiritual beliefs?
>>1094449
Yikes. Learn proper grammar before you arrogantly reply to me again, kiddo.
>>1094453
I believe in what's likely to be true.
>>1094464
What's true according to you?
>>1094458
>still believing virgin births and ressurections can happen
Get a grip
>>1094466
That Christianity is likely false, for one.
>>1094458
Christianity is the religion that works best with the white race's genetic racial mental illness called LOOK HOW MUCH OF A GOOD PERSON I AM symdrome that is why it became so popular in Europe, and Euros ditched their own cultural pagan religions. It is in the New World due to you lunatics forcing native american tribes to adopt you rmadness and make them drop their madness, you did the same to the Pinoys and jungle asians you colonized, then theres the african niggers you enslave and brainwashed generations into being christians, and finally the actualy africans left behind had no choice but to convert to your sandnigger religion or be tortured thats is why Christianity is so popular in Africa.
>>1094476
I don't think I've had less respect for christians up until now
You go to a church right? Please tell me they're not all like you
>>1094476
>not getting it this much
Talking to Christcucks is like staring into a vortex made of the very essence of insanity.
>>1094471
Wrong.
>>1094484
t. Christfag
>>1094489
>>1094492
>>1094497
>>1094498
>>1094499
>>1094473
>LOOK HOW MUCH OF A GOOD PERSON I AM
Really?
>All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:23
>Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
Ecclesiastes 7:20
>Out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.
Matthew 15:19
Any questions?
>>1094500
>>1094503
>>1094501
Says you
When I die I believe I'm going to skeptic heaven
>>1094505
>>1094479
I am simply honest. See >>1094372
I'm not here to feed you some ''Find out how to spend eternity in Heaven in one easy step! 1. Accept Jesus' divinity! That's it! Yay!'' nonsense.
>The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1:7
>The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.
Proverbs 8:13
>The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.
Proverbs 9:10
>The fear of the Lord prolongs life, but the years of the wicked will be short.
Proverbs 10:27
>In the fear of the Lord one has strong confidence, and his children will have a refuge.
Proverbs 14:26
>The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, that one may turn away from the snares of death.
Proverbs 14:27
>Better is a little with the fear of the Lord than great treasure and trouble with it.
Proverbs 15:16
>By steadfast love and faithfulness iniquity is atoned for, and by the fear of the Lord one turns away from evil.
Proverbs 16:6
>The fear of the Lord leads to life, and whoever has it rests satisfied; he will not be visited by harm.
Proverbs 19:23
>The reward for humility and fear of the Lord is riches and honor and life.
Proverbs 22:4
>Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy. Blessed is the one who fears the Lord always, but whoever hardens his heart will fall into calamity.
Proverbs 28:13-14
>>1094510
>>1094502
This doesnt disprove that Christianity is HURR BE A GOOD PERSON the religion.
>You filthy sinner Im better than you because Im righteous in the name of God
This is exactly what you lunatics sound like.
>>1094489
See you in hell then since there's only a minuscule chance that you're following the correct religion out of hundreds. It seems more interesting than heaven, which sounds more like an eternal christmas party where all of your boring relatives are attending.
>>1094522
>pretending to be someone else to cheerlead yourself
Anyway christfag, how's that giving all your possessions to the poor stuff going? Also, how's that quest for empirical evidence going? Still found nothing in the world or in your own life to justify your beliefs and morals?
>>1094527
>being this paranoid
i'm not the christian, faggot
>>1094526
>BE A GOOD PERSON the religion
Correct. >>1094401 *righteousness*
>“They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
Pliny, Letters, transl. by William Melmoth, rev. by W.M.L. Hutchinson (Cambridge: Harvard Univ. Press, 1935), vol. II, X:96, cited in Habermas, The Historical Jesus, 199.
>>1094534
Where in my post do I mention Christianity? You're the paranoid one faggot.
>>1094527
>I want to be tortured for eternity because it is more interesting
>>1094526
>>1094549
>For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools.
Romans 1:19-22
>And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
Romans 1:28-32
>>1092740
I like to think that when we are righteous, we go to heaven.
If we're bad, we're sent to hell.
If we fall short, we're sent to purgatory. There, our souls are drafted into the war against hell. If we can't succeed, we're damned. If we do, we go to heaven.
>>1094372
>The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God.
pls notice me senpai
>>1094558
Or in other words
>"Lalalala I can't hear you I'm right about everything lalalala"
Some verse, some line
It really is astonishing how little intellectual backbone you christcucks have. Not only will you not even consider the idea that you could be wrong about anything, the very core of critical inquiry, you actually try to define 'wisdom' as 'agreeing with everything we believe'. No wonder Christianity is not intellectually relevant anymore
>>1094574
Read what I wrote and you will understand.
>For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:18
Also read >>1094511
>>1094502
Why did god reveal himself only to people in the near and middle east? Why is the bible more true than any other holy scripture in the world?
Arent the 2 later abrahamic religions only reaffirming the legitimacy of judaism?
>>1094601
dude, I wouldn't bother with these people. The questions they ask have already been answered a thousand times over very clearly.
You've been honest and upright in your presentation and they couldn't give a toss, so don't worry about it. Go do something you know will be more fruitful.
dunno
>>1094624
>Why did god reveal himself only to people in the near and middle east?
See >>1094458
If the only Christians today were syrians, it would be a good argument.
>>1094624
>>1095988
>>1094624
>>1095988
>>1096012
>>1092740
>We
>Go
There wouldn't be any "We" and there wouldn't be any "Go".
>>1092764
Not in the slightest.
>>1092771
I'd figure about 2500 C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMwMi97qNIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jkaEXdLXls
>>1096067
>>1094574
The idea that God could be wrong about anything is ludicrous.
The idea that you're wrong about God is self-evident.
What are all the deleted posts? Bible verses?
>>1094624
Jesus is appearing in men's dreams all over the planet.
It's almost harvest time.
>>1096067
Oh, are those the deleted posts? Guess they cut too deep.
In the post-life in which you believe. The only one who just you is yourself and you would be placed according to your honest judgment.
>>1092755
Your god sounds like Stalin. I mean if he was just he wouldn't give people a trial that they would lose automatically and make it a kangaroo court. Either those in hades should still be able to repent and win their trial, or they should all be sent to the lake of fire once they die.
>>1096096
>Your god sounds like Stalin
Not him but newsflash. Theism is totalitarian by definition.
You've never played Minecraft?
>>1094574
>Believing in an atheistic intellectual high ground
>>1094443
Isn't this 7th grade science?
>>1092755
prove it
>>1092740
If you ever were in a medical come, just like that: Absolutely nothing
>>1100170
The thing I find interesting about that kind of thought process is after you wake up from being unconscious/passed out/knocked out/etc., there's no perception of time passing for you. Essentially, it's instantaneous. And I think that's what scares us so much when it comes to death; there is no instantaneous "waking up" that occurs afterwards (at least none that we can measure or confirm).
But what that also means is, if there ever IS a way to reverse death (or if there is some kind of "waking up"), it will happen immediately in your perspective. So if you're worried about what happens after you die, you'll find out immediately.
Ever since i was a little one i thought that whenever you died your soul would just go back into a big reserve of souls wating for a new body
>>1092791
>Basically reincarnation
How can one reconcile reincarnation with population growth?
>>1101619
Maybe the universe has a spleen
I've glimpsed the other side, and after a lot of reflection this is what I'm convinced of.
Your awareness is an abstraction, an emergent condition which arises from the organic (undirected) arrangement of information in space. We've managed to gain some level of self-awareness (distinct from sentience) and thus an ability to direct the informational content and those relations between the content which underlie that very ability. We are in a sense reflexively self-modeling constructs of a language. Think hofstadter's "strange loops". The recursive self processing is what produces consciousness. When the physical agent which bred a particular loop is destroyed (death), the loop itself still exists by virtue of its recursive nature. Because, unlike a mathematical recursive function, awareness is not discretized in time. So when the function is aborted, from the loops perspective (due to it's self-contained reflexive self-processing), the abort procedure is constantly receding as the loop continually is modeled within itself at an increasing rate. Think Zeno's motion paradox. From an outside perspective we can measure a moment where it stops. But from within, there is an infinite number of "loops" before the abort command executes.
So, that in mind, I think when you die, your consciousness detaches from the body (which acts as kind of a viscous medium pulling the loops through time relative to physical reality) and then becomes spatio-temporally fixed with respect to physical reality. In other words, you are perfectly conscious and aware as you were before death, but you have no way to interact with or manipulate physical reality, or change your situation in any way. A fixed state where nothing happens and all you can do is eternally review your thoughts and memories.
Consumed by microbes or fire.
>>1101619
you were kind of a pythagorean without knowing
>>1101772
That's fucking scary as shit, dude.
>>1101848
I would take it with a grain of salt since I intuited this during a horrifying psychotic break. I was nearly suicidal but changed my mind after considering it might be worse after.
>>1101620
Some Billions of insects turn into humans.
But I get your idea, was wondering the same.
>>1096067
Holy shit fix your gamma.
>>1101772
>When the physical agent which bred a particular loop is destroyed (death), the loop itself still exists by virtue of its recursive nature.
When a recursive algorithm runs infinitely and you cut the power to the system the algorithm stops. Only as an abstract concept does the recursive process which has a beginning does not end. Our consciousness is not merely an abstraction.
>>1102145
Ignore one of those "does" in the second sentence. Grammar fuckup.
>>1092740
What faith are you?
>>1092740
>"dream" last night
>yelling at stranger because they tried to assault my girlfriend
>held apart by two separate groups of people so can't get physical
>decide to take off my shoe and throw it at him
>hit him in face
>he pulls a gun and I see the revolver as it's fired
>pain for a split second then not
>can't hear anything and everything black
>feel the pressure of blood spurting out of my skull
>"wake up"
Apparently, when you die you go here. Hell exists and you're in it.
If you're a good person, you wake up in Canada
If you're a bad person, you wake up in Portugal
If you were on the edge, you wake up in Germany
>>1092740
He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death (Rev 21:7-8).
>>1101950
>monitor settings affect screenshots
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