What was the most effective / best fought insurgency in History and why?
PLA presumably, being that they took over the world's most populated country.
>>1087712
I've often heard General Mao's writings on Guerilla warfare are considered indispensable. Much better than Che's.
More like Che the Re right? Retard lmao
>>1087703
Read about the chinese invasions of vietnam, must've been harsh having to combat guerilla warfare with spears and bows.
>>1087739
I like the part when Che went to Africa to train African socialist insurgents, but then got salty at their incompetence and ranted about how inferior black people are. Very revolutionary, a true pillar of equality
>>1087749
>go to Bolivia
>none of the villagers give a shit about communism
>get captured and put before a firing squad while CIA men watch just to make sure you really die
>>1087761
>billion dollars a year in aid and a thousand US military advisers
>still lose
ROC were shitters.
Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck
>>1087765
At least he got a nice t-shirt deal out of it
>>1087769
What is the point of giving aid then enacting an embargo or sending a bunch of crypto-communist "military advisers" then restricting support for military operations.
Not that the Nationalists were that much great, of course. But corruption and incompetence was the staple of Asian anti-communists, since they never had the support of the intelligentsia, which saw (and still sees) communism as more fashionable. Asian anti-communism always had to deal with crooks and gangsters, and yet it managed to build successful societies in Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.
The problem with China is that it was compromised by communist sympathizers right to the top of the American mission there.
>>1087788
The South Koreans, Filipinos, and Greeks managed to whip the commies out of their countries with less help.
>>1087791
As I said, I don't know about the Philippines, but the American support for South Korea in their struggle against commies was directed by Douglas MacArthur, a notorious anti-communist, and in Greece there was pressure by James Forrestal to give aid to anti-communists. Forrestal was later assassinated by the commies.
>>1087820
Ramon Magsaysay was ridiculously based.
The way I see it, sometimes governments just don't gel properly, and there's very little you can do.
The Soviets had this same experience with their little nation-building exercise in Afghanistan.
>>1087703
Viet Cong in Nam or Afghan Mujahideen. Both received lots of foreign support but they still fought amazing guerilla campaigns that lasted decades and managed to drive out the occupiers in their country.
>>1087703
Jewish insurgents in the Palestinian mandate were pretty efficient, and fucking raped 5 armies at a time.
>>1087791
The South Koreans got something like a million Americans at one point helping them fight. That's hardly the same commitment to what we made to the Chinese Nationalists
>>1088044
Viet Cong for sure, they even fought off China and invaded Cambodia.
>>1088362
NVA =/= VC
>>1087791
>Greeks
>Without help
wait a sec u tryin 2 trik me again
>>1087703
Let's look at 3 categories instead:
Best fought: greatest outcome achieved without recourse to throughput measures
Insurgents: Democratic Republic of Vietnam / Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam / National Front for Liberation of South Vietnam; Second Indochina War / American War / "Vietnam War". Amazing results in maintaining a civil government for 16 years under US force.
Counter-insurgents: German civil and military forces in the East & South, 1941-1944. You don't liquidate that many human beings you consider as not fully human without being damn good at it.
Effectiveness: best fought for throughput
Insurgents: 2nd Warsaw Uprising / "London" government uprising.
Counter-Insurgents: Rhodesia
Success: the achievement of the political goals of the movement or state in a cost-effective manner
Insurgents: KMT's CCP Faction / CCP. Here the goals of the insurgency need to be weighed against their arguably pathetic throughput.
Counter-insurgents: British Malaya
>>1087756
>1st Indochina wasn't an insurgency
Look at the big balls on Pete.
>>1087776
An insurgency relies on popular support in order to achieve a political goal by other means. Lettow-Vorbeck was tasked with a military goal which he achieved admirably. He was not engaged in a political struggle.
