What went wrong after him ?
>>1055825
BEHOLD, A MAN!
>>1057576
Kek
>>1057576
but chickens grow feathers so plucking a chicken doesn't make it featherless
People got caught up in language.
>>1058151
yes it does
Plato never specified the potential for feathers, just the lack thereof
also by his reckoning many dinosaurs would be humans
>>1058151
Behold an Australian man
>>1055825
Aristotle and the periPATHETICS with their bullshit maxim "Nothing is in the intellect that was not first in the senses"
It all went downhill ever since...
I honestly think that the logical conclusion to philosophy is Plato
>>1058358
A little Kant never hurts anyone
No one questioned him until 1500
When did you realise that Plato was right in his Republic?
>>1058392
2015
>>1055825
His successors dogmatized his thought experiments. They became doctrines rather than merely theories.
>>1058375
>implying aristotle didn't disagree with most of plato's thoughts
>>1055825
He was everything wrong though.
>>1055825
>What went wrong after him?
The persistent and intentional misinterpretation of his concept of the "republic" to justify a wide range of shitty governments that have very little to do with his hypothetical ideal.
>>1058375
>I've never even touched a copy of The Nicomachean Ethics.
>>1058375
>who is Diogenes
>who is Aristotle
>who is every philosopher that wasn't a Platonist
I know next to nothing about Plato, what's good about him?
>>1058914
Not all that much. He was basically the philosophical version of that guy who posts "FIRST!" in Youtube comments sections.
>>1058935
But he wasn't really the first (which actually fits your analogy) as there's a bunch of pre-socratics. I know his work formed a lot of the ethical basis of many subsequent philosophies and much of Christianity, but what made him so popular?
>>1058151
DIOGENES BTFO
>>1058312
>Many dinosaurs
>Featherless
Top lel man, where did you got that meme?
It got better
>>1060622
>guy who made a religion out of plato, complains about others making a religion out of plato
plotinus was a hack
>>1055825
Kant. And also Plato was what went wrong.
If I was Diogenes I would have cut Plato's legs off then said he wasnt a man
That would have been quality banter
Philosophy is needed when we are intellectually infantile.
>>1057576
Forty keks!
>>1055825
He planted the seed of his elitist anti-materialism into the soil of philosophy that eventually grew into Christianity. Basically he is the original nihilist.
>>1064913
Aren't the Sophist the original / earliest nihilists? More specifically: Gorgias or Portagoras?
>>1055825
>after him
He was the one who fucked it up. He was like Paul to Jesus.
>>1057576
Dioegenes was a meme master.
>>1065022
yes but they didn't dogmatize it, so it's okay.
>>1055825
Sophists were demonized in favor of crazy homeless people and gentry who supported being a philosopher with other sources of wealth.
>>1057576
>After this incident, "with broad flat nails" was added to Plato's definition.
Diogenes might have been a bum, but he had no delusions whatsoever^^
