Pic related
The last thing those people needed was to be given money
Also, weirdly, for such an important figure you don't hear much about him
Benito Juarez.
Miguel Hidalgo.
Venustiano Carranza.
Leona Vicario.
Josefa Ortíz.
José María Morelos Y Pavón.
>>1033862
who the fuck is this nigga
>>1033853
Soeharto on the other hand was actually pretty based.
>>1033903
FUCKING THIS
>Shoot cops in back
>National hero kuntttt
reagan
This motherfucker right here.
>>1033906
Eddie Mabo
>>1033853
Churchill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ZLGb-BNsI
Perhaps the most one dimensional pandering fuck we've had yet. Also that 3 week coverage of his funeral was a TV nightmare.
>>1033942
What are you,a fucking commie?
This dude
>>1033853
"Otac Domovine" or "Father of the Homeland"
>>1033942
This.
He was good at public speaking and thats it, nothinrg else.
He literally did nothing else good.
>>1033853
This commie agitator.
>lives in white man's society, reaps all its benefits and uses its inventions
>complains about white man's society whilst wearing clothes, using language, and not living in a shit hut
![Getman-vsiyeyi-Ukrayini-Pavlo-Skoropadskiy-1918-r.1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dY3bufk.jpg "Getman-vsiyeyi-Ukrayini-Pavlo-Skoropadskiy-1918-r.1[1].jpg")
This guy, so fucking tired of "muh strong leader" type of people glorifying him.
>>1033853
>>1034170
That's one sexy priest tho
>>1033903
KELLY DINDU NUFFIN HE WUZ A GUD BOIII
>>1033917
Literally the most corrupt head of state of all times
>>1033873
Is this the Argentinian midfield for the next World Cup?
This cuck
>>1034378
Holy moly I was about to post the same but was too lazy to find a pic on google.
He was no cuck though since he was the one doing the cucking on a regular basis.
Every important black person within the public eye after Dr.King
All of them are dumb asses
>>1034385
Can't agree on Brand, but Adorno, oh how I hate that bastard.
>>1034446
Are you trolling?
>>1034468
The Reformation would have come with or without him,
>>1034483
It's not about the reformation but Luther personally.
>>1034493
Tell me more.
I know he was a cunt when it came to peasants, but is it something else that's bad with him?
Let's get even more specific.
>>1034385
That's Carl Schmitt.
>>1034496
For me it's mainly that he's portrayed as some kind of modern thinker, almost humanitarian. That's something he definitely wasn't.
Yes, I am a filthy Commie.
>>1034514
Glorified cheerleader
>>1034138
>Literally ruled for a month or two
>Greatest Ukranian leader.
Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP.
It's not just the locals, but also leaders around the world.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have a laundry list of human rights violation he and his fucking political party have committed and the world fucking endorsed by saying nothing.
While he didn't explicitly oversee the entire process of the clusterfuck of cancer known as the Trans Pacific Protocol, I know he was at least alive for some of it and I'm pretty sure he would have signed it.
Singapore is the only country to have sued an outgoing politician. No kidding.
Singapore is also more than happy to sue teenagers and 9 year olds for being teenagers and being kids (for daring to criticize the country and over "copyright laws" respectively.
>>1034586
Would Turkey exist with its current borders without him?
>>1034615
>Lee Kuan Yew
>Yew
>>1033853
Nelson Mandela
>>1034586
The Turks truly did not deserve Attaturk. He should've never taken charge and allowed Turkey to descend into the Muslamic shithole it so desperately wants to become.
>>1034512
Anne Frank is literally the opposite of a heroine, she hid for fuck sake.
>>1034586
>tfw the only decent Turk in history was actually a Greek
>>1033853
I don't *hate* him per se, but he was a slimy bollix
>hid like a lil bitch during 1916
>met Lloyd George secretly before the Treaty negotiations
>he therefore knew there was no chance of us getting a republic at the negotiating table
>sent Michael Collins etc to take the blame instead
>got publicly butthurt when they signed the treaty
>didn't start the civil war but certainly didn't help with his speeches; "we'll have wade through rivers of Irish blood to establish the Republic"
>hid like a lil bitch when the civil war kicked off
>sold out and took the oath of allegiance to the King and went into govt. in the 1930s
>took credit for everything the previous govt did during the 1920s
>betrayed all the IRA guys who had fought for him
>being neutral in WWII was the best (and arguably only the only good) thing he did but he went about it kinda retardedly
>offering condolences to the Germans when Hitler died etc
>>1034618
Turkey would be even larger taking back the arabian coastline and maybe even egypt, Bulgaria and Greece if it wouldn't have been for Atatürk. he decided they grabbed enough land back, dictated the land for 20 years before dying of liver failure due to his alcohol problem. Basically he decided to backstab the Ottoman generals who supported him in freeing Turkey, because he promised them he would bring the Ottomans back. His achievements were great but somehow everyone ignores the fact that he backstabbed his closes generals, political supressed people that were against him and basically did whatever he wanted to.
>>1034657
He was not Greek. He was Turk through through.
Hamilton and all the rest of those federalist assholes
Yes I am a butthurt Jeffersonian
>>1034741
And let's say that he don't comes to power and Turkey tries to take back all these lands, what if the allies actually decides they are a threat against everyone else and comes in to help their neighbors to take land from Turkey and neutralize the country?
>>1033853
This fucker right here
>steal billions and ruin an emerging economy
>he dindu nuffin!
Hearing people praise him makes me sick.
>>1034754
forgot pic
Not sure if they are considered heroes buy Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera.
Can't stand those commies.
>>1034765
Fucker ruined everything.
Now his wife is parading around being glorified.
Come to think of it, the entire political system is fucked.
>>1034752
Atatürk had a rivalry going with Enver Pasha, who was the highest Military commander only below the Sultan himself. The Allies were completely exhausted after fighting Germany, and Enver had very close relations with Willhelm II., seeing how germany got to keep MOST of their clay I'm sure Enver could have figured out a way to make Turkey keep most of their clay too.
>>1034782
Didn't most of the land you lost have a Non-Turkish majority though?
The reason the Germans got to keep so much land was that they simply was a majority in most of it.
Also, your other Ally Austria, got off even worse than you and let's face it. The only strong country in that alliance was Germany, everyone else was either small countries or "The old sick men of Europe:"
>>1034796
Well, Enver knew about this problem, he knew he couldn't keep most of the land when it was full of other people. Incase you didn't know, Enver was responsible for the Slaughter of many many non-turks, Armenians, Kurds, etc. He sought to clean the land of non-türk so that after the war was over he could keep most of the land the turks got back since the non-turk majority was...gone.
I do agree, Germany was the bulk of this war when it came to raw power, but the turks held a great number of russian back alongside the Austrians.
>>1034781
You guys need to raise Ramon Magsaysay from the dead.
>>1034823
So you support Slaughter as a way of expanding borders into lands with no Turkish majority?
Kārlis Ulmanis - Latvian dictator from the mid 1930's till 1940
While his reign was ultimately prosperous and was the so called ''Golden Age'' for my country, he fucked us over in the end by selling us out to the Soviet Union without the fight. It resulted in tens of thousands of people getting killed or deported. While most people think that was a good idea because it spared lots of lives from a war, Stalin could claim that we joined USSR willingly. He thought he would still remain in power, but eventually got deported himself to some shithole in inner Soviet Union and died from dysentery. Also his propaganda and personality cult is fucking laughable.
>>1034839
I never said that I supported Enver, my original point was that people are literal fanatics when it comes to Atatürk here. I get it, he is a great man to the nation, but they mention him everywhere, in every political debate, in every moral standpoint, they mention him. It is time to move on but because of these fanatics we can't.
>>1034782
>>1034586
i love reading about these two, with attaturk being the perfect leader, brilliant in any way in contrast to enver with his constant fuck ups. these two ultimately shaped modern turkey, attaturk being the light and enver being the darkness. attaturk being the turbo-chads while enver being the autistic robots
>>1034117
Ah yes I recall how Indonesians where mute nudists untill the Dutch came
>>1034851
Ah, I see, sorry, thought you said you wanted his ways much rather than Attaturk's or something.
And isn't it a problem with many of those that wants to put an end to the Attaturk cult also want to end secularism?
>>1034849
Didn't the Soviets have to isolate the Balkans from the rest of the country when they first invade because the area was so much richer? Just think I heard that.
>>1034622
Singapore is basically the Israel of Asia.
i am lukewarm about Churchill
also i loathe Bruce Forsyth and I think Diana was a total moron
>>1034858
attaturk ended creating a modern republic out of the ottoman empire while enver ended up dying trying to create a pan-turkic state in the caucasus, in a desperate cavalry charges against the russian, with the koran in hands.
>>1034869
Closer to past Venice, actually.
>>1034863
Yes, this is true to some extend. AKP supporters tend to like their Ottoman heritage more than their Turkish heritage. And seeing how Atatürk brought an end to the Ottomans, he is not liked, but not hated either since he liberated Turkey. Secularism in Turkey will never end, the only way it could would be in a brutal civil war. While every political party strives for different goals, Atatürk and his legacy are almost sacred, similiar to lets say the Declartion of Independence.
One of the worst presidents we ever had, directly responsible for out current economic problems and he defended kebab instead of removing it.
>>1034512
Why do you hate her tho?
>>1034898
>Why doesn't international politics solely revolve around religion ;___;
Reagan.
FDR and his wife.
Rosa Parks.
Jesus.
>>1034924
All those edges
>>1034841
Harper was a piece of crap that was selling parts of our land to the Chinese, and now this asshat is going to make every country want to annex/invade us by being too peaceful and stupid (that quote is just fucking stupid). It's a bad time to be a Canadian.
>>1034596
He did do a lot of significant stuff in those several months to be perfectly fair, but he wasn't THAT good, and he was kicked out for a reason.
>>1034898
I'd say he's overrated, but I don't think many people see him as a hero. It can certainly seem that way in hindsight because it was one of the last periods where the executive and the legislative both agreed to try to balance the federal budget. Sad that's enough of a qualification these days.
Anyway, here's my choice. Seriously, fuck this faggot.
>>1034958
Why hate him?
>>1034972
I can't think of a president who flailed about more uselessly or more disastrously.
>directly decide to intervene in a European imperial conflict
>post Roosevelt status quo authoritarian
>muh leage of nations
What was the point of his presidency beyond getting thousands of young men killed on some foreign adventure and then creating a framework for an organization that has the dubious distinction of being helpless witness to the rise of some of history's greatest monsters?
>>1034981
You are a fucking cretin
Full retard
>>1034985
You're right. I'm stupid for supporting a president who made pointless grand gestures which accomplished zero of his policy goals.
literally a pro-revolutionairy commie
Inventor of champagne socialism
>>1034989
Am I being rused?
>>1034993
The only signature piece of his presidency worth a shit was tariff reduction. Most of his anti-trust legislation has eroded away to nothing and the FTC is kind of (see:always) a joke as a regulatory body. Do you have actual rebuttals beyond memes?
>>1035005
Libertarian I take it?
>>1035015
No. His legacy is overrated and all the dick sucking he gets as a "great" president is undeserved. It's almost as bad as Jefferson.
>>1033853
This incompetent bastard. He completely screwed us over. Ruined the education system by making it free, fucked over the economy, forced an "Arab" identity that Egyptians never really had and presently only have in name on us which is one of the reasons why we were so influenced by Wahhabism from actual Arab countries. He turned some of the most beautiful buildings we have into dysfunctional state schools. Sure, he was good on paper. The economy grew while he was in power and school enrolment increased but when schools don't do jack shit then increased enrolment doesn't mean jack shit. And a growing economy doesn't mean jack shit when most of the money goes to a shitty, clunky, and bureaucratic socialist government. I'm glad we lost the war with Israel we had under his power because I know that he died with the knowledge that he failed his country and that he will die a loser.1
>>1035018
I can't tell if your b8ing, edgy, retarded, or all at once at this point.
>>1035108
>status quo understanding of history
>calling someone else a troll
>no refutation at all
>>1035108
Not him, but so far in over 6 posts all you've said is a variation of "you're dumb" and "b8", while he made lengthy posts explaining his positions.
The question is, do you have anything of substance to say? Or are you just sperging?
>>1033853
>>1035155
His points are so stupid I'm not even gonna bother addressing them.
>muh isolationism
Absolutely cretinous
>>1035184
I'm glad you are only able to create simplistic reasoning for the logic behind short, two-sentence posts, considering no where in your "discourse" with the anti-Wilson does he mention isolationism at all - only what he perceived as the disastrous results of intervention in that context.
>>1035019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0
fuck you, senpai
>>1035019
>ruined the education system by making it free
Stopped reading right there
>>1034741
>Turkey would be even larger
No, only through help and Jewish shekels did Turkey manage to survive, no way in hell would the allies allow a new Ottoman Empire you fucking retard.
This kike faggot
>>1033853
>You will never chill in occupied Indonesia with pinda bros
>You will never prevent the 'war' and your grandfathers PTSD
Where did everything go wrong? At least we've got Indonesian immigrants who are top tier
>this whole fucking thread
I don't know who's b8ing, is edgy, is drunk on maymays, retarded, /pol/ack, /int/...
>>1035234
>people have different opinions than me
>must be retarded or wrong
K
>>1035296
>gustav vasa
>martin luther king
>nasser
>ataturk
>venizelos
This is hard maymaying
>>1034170
/fa/ tier face desu
>>1035213
>jewish shekels
What are you talking about?
this retarded nigga right here
>Scavenius basically sucked Hitler's cock during occupation
>he did it so we didnt end up as polan uwu
>>1035355
>Mandela
>not a villain
K kid
>>1035451
How's he a villain?
>>1035457
He bombed a schoolbus full of children. Not even the apartheid government was shameless enough to target civilians.
>>1034093
He was correct in assuming that the Soviet Union was on the verge of failure and reacting to that with a more aggressive foreign policy, a full abandonment of detente, and a new arms race.
>>1033853
>>1035508
Are you a commie?
>>1035489
Holy shit, never heard of that, any sauce?
>>1035505
Gotta give credit where credit is due, that was the one thing he did right.
>>1035457
>Marxist
>Exploited Apartheid SA negative world image, allowed himself to be projected as a dindunuffin
>In league with Robert Mugabe
>Despised the actually progressive and racially unified Botswana for being tolerant towards its white population
>Terrorist
And the big factor, look at South Africa now. Not only is it projecting pro-Black ideology, it's also promoting extreme South African nationalism to the point where they are rounding up people from Mozambique and killing them.
>>1035559
>Exploited Apartheid SA negative world image, allowed himself to be projected as a dindunuffin
That's PR tho, nothing wrong with it
>Terrorist
Debatable.
>Marxist
Everybody knows that. Still, SA didn't become a real commie shithole so I suppose he's milder than the hardcore leftists of the 70s-80s
>In league with Robert Mugabe
>Despised the actually progressive and racially unified Botswana for being tolerant towards its white population
inexcusable and fucking disgusting. This I did not know
>>1035508
Is he really considered a hero in Chile or is it just ultra-conservative old people?
>>1035598
It's a meme you dip
>>1035554
The problem being that it was a pretty fucking big thing.
To be fair, Carter laid the groundwork by pulling out of detente, boycotting the 1980 Olympics, and starting to arm the Mujihadeen.
>>1033917
if he had as much attention from edgy ancaps as pinochet does, he would be on top of my shitlist.
theres nothing wrong with purging communists or putting down an insurgency but when its 1 million """""""communists""""""" (actually chinese, labor unions and mud people who will switch allegiance the minute you give them food) and your country is still a corrupt and ineffective, youre a shit leader
>>1035629
Eh.
Most of the commies that got killed were commies.
The Indonesian Communist Party was huge.
And he did bring in Western economists and give the country consistent 6% a year economic growth.
Suharto's Indonesia was no South Korea, but there was a definite improvement from the previous state of affairs.
>>1035623
Most of the accomplishments attributed to Reagan were initiatives started by Carter. In fact, Reagan mainly hindered those initiatives and yet they worked regardless though not as well as they could've been.
>>1034446
Dit is aas.
>>1035638
but when you factor in the folowing genocide in timor and that sukarno was arguably a much better leader than who was replaced in other situations such as allende, the whole indonesia affair just stinks to high heaven. and still today, many millions live n desperate poverty similar to commie countries
This guy right here once got voted the greatest Dutchman of all time.
People he beat:
>William Of Orange
>Rembrandt
>Van Gogh
>Anne Frank
>Erasmus
>Spinoza
>Michiel de Ruyter
And many other people who actually did something.
What was Fortuyn famous for? Being a populist and a racist, and also dying like a bitch. In 50 years, if anyone will remember him at all it will be as a political punchline.
>>1035774
t. Anwar al-Muhammad
>>1035774
Anne Frank
>to be young
>to be a girl
>to write a diary
That's what she did.
>>1035806
Oh don't get me wrong, she wasn't even trying to be a great person.
Still did better than Pim Fortuyn.
>>1035774
Hey Volkert, mag je weer op internet?
>>1033853
When I was a kid my grandpa said I'd grow up to be great like him. I was his "Sukarno grand-daughter"
I hope I don't get locked up because of this.
>>1033924
his son is so much worse
>>1034841
he's just such a smug douche
how can he behave like that, in front of all of these fucking cameras. all politicians eventually gaff, and then everything they do is presented negatively. he's going to look like such a cunt
>>1034615
Move to Malaysia then.
>>1035425
Nah our Indonesians are actually nice. Probably because nearly all of them have Dutch ancestry, they all speak our language and are almost exclusively non-Muslim.
>>1034951
>It's a bad time to be a Canadian.
It always is
>>1034680
Kinda agree and disagree with you on this. Don't like him but do respect him to a certain extent.
I don't buy into the mindless devotion to all the Rising leaders and think they were twats who got people killed for no good reason.
We will never be able to unfuck our country.
>>1035505
Reagan honestly didn't have the intelligence to realize that on his own.
I'm french and I'm trying hard but I can't think of a single one desu
>>1033924
damn i was going to post this
>>1037444
Napoleon III maybe?
>>1035019
>Ruined the education system by making it free
>>1037447
nobody admires him
They should though he was great, just not a match for bismarck
>>1033938
What don't you like about him? We Americans tend to jerk off to him incessantly.
>>1037726
unfuck yourself cunt irwin is a fucking legend
>>1037726
Seriously fuck your own face. Irwin was awesome.
>>1037459
t. product of ''''''free education system''''''
>>1033924
> you will never have a true liberal nationalist prime minister.
>>1034615
Keep crying cuck.
>>1037928
Thank goodness desu
>>1034841
Australian here.
Did he actually say that?
Ahahahahahahaha
>>1037990
Also fuck this cunt that will forever be worshiped by the Australian left.
>>1035708
They live in poverty because they're Indonesians.
>>1033853
>>1037976
Every Singapirean was born cucked to begin with. And now thanks to the TPP, we won't even have jobs.
How's that for cucked.
>>1038028
So? Would you prefer to be Indonesian or Malaysian?
>>1038001
so you don't have an actual argument?
Fuck this guy. And before you start, i don't give a fuck about his racism
>>1038864
I heard his last word was something like "I killed the banks... I killed the economy!"
>>1036298
Exactly. And don't forget the food
>>1033938
Churchill was a massive cunt that destroyed every country from Egypt to India, Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, India. He was a real shitbag
>>1035623
>Get rid of third world stabilizing force and give guns to the Taliban and Al Qaeda
But muh gommunism was gonna make everyone poor
>>1038047
Do you have any good arguments to make, other than fallacies and ad hominems?
And before you ask, yes, I know all the good he has done. Supposedly.
Yes, he did help in giving everyone a home. So did the Soviet Union, and they threw in free jobs and education too, if you worked hard enough to pass. (Your home is still owned by the state in both cases, and Singapore's housing success isn' just LKY alone.)
Working public transport? Singapore is small enough to have that, and even then, there's no excuse to leave it unmaintained for 20-odd years just because it prints money.
And the fucking roads and infrastructure was Britush to begin with. And LKY had a team of great economists, plus the UN were willing to send one if theirs over to help.
Economy-wise? Yeah, he opened Singapore up to the corporations and made it so that they would stay for good. It was a good plan in the 60s and 70s. Not so good now, since corps would rather pay expats than locals.
"But muh CPF." 100k SGD translates to around 75k USD, and I'm pretty sure that isn't enough to retire in the US of A. Also, it's only good to get seed money for acutal investments. Even the American 401K gives more returns, and the employer requirement to funnel 20% of the employee's pay FROM THEIR BOTTOMLINE only makes locals unviable in the long run.
The National Service Policy, while necessary, is deeply flawed and only promotes paranoia in policymaking due to the assumption that EVERYONE is out to get you. Employers also hate it since it means someone isn't making the company money when said someone has to "do his military duty" for up to a month every year.
Let's not even talk about how the lack of free exchange of ideas has all but killed off the arts scene in Singapore.
Can you rebut these points properly?
>>1035183
>associated with Communists
>had orgies with prostitutes
>was probably an alcoholic
Why is he worshiped again?
>>1035316
>Gustav Wasa
>crushed the will of the people
>forced Protestantism on everyone
>>1040478
Based desuson sempainen
>>1039819
>stabilizing force
>the DRA
u wot
>>1040515
Can't disagree on that cuck.
>>1040580
>he is a Papist
>>1040591
>He wants the state to act as a tyrant
>>1040630
>he wants to submit to God's self-proclaimed lieutenant whim
>which usually meant fucking little boys or your sister
>>1040653
>oh, he opposes a tyrant and the religious right of others?
>must meen he's a Catholic!
>>1040664
>he wants to suck Marxy Franky's cock
>>1040671
No idea who that is.
>>1040678
Francesco Uno, self-proclaimed Marxist, refugee fan and general reddit-type personality
>>1040687
Dude, nothing in sweden is any better at all.
Bringing him up in a discussion with another swede like this makes no sense.
>>1033942
nothing he has ever done has had positive impact. everything he touches just turns to shit.
that's his shtick. shit trickling down on american heads.
>>1034378
you couldn't be more wrong. I know a lot of the spd's left wing actually doesn't like him because he was a huge reactionary.
>>1034385
so who do you mean, schmitt or adorno? they were just two amongst many, might aswell name benjamin, marcuse, horkheimer, fromm and habermas in the same breath.
just gonna assume you're /pol/ though because MUH CULTURAL MARXIST ;___;
>>1034776
kill yourself my friend
>>1034851
very good point. turkey is fucked because of some sickly crude version of nationalism for a country that is barely 100 years old and the cult of personality around its leader. it disgusts me.
>>1034680
>sold out and took the oath of allegiance to the King and went into govt. in the 1930s
signed over a blank sheet of paper tbf to the lad
>betrayed all the IRA guys who had fought for him
they no longer fought for him, the IRA had no need for a political leader once they went full paramilitary mode
that's why he splintered from Sinn Féin and established Fianna Fáil
>offering condolences to the Germans when Hitler died etc
>implying this is a bad thing
he'd have been criticized by everyone and made a shame of himself if he kissed the arses of the allies AFTER the war was over, he was just showing the neutrality you'd already praised him for
the 1937 constitution and the whole "pending re-unification" thing was pretty based of him as well
can't forgive the murder of big mick though
>>1034958
fuck you, wilson.
>>1040386
are those reasons not enough for you?..
This incompetent motherfucker is the real reason why the Gommunists won, not just Mao
>>1040903
>MUH DIXIE!
Burning of Atlanta best day of my life.
>>1040903
One was a West Point educated officer who launched a daring campaign into the heart of Northern territory with an under supplied, outnumbered army with no realistic plans for ending the war at Gettysburg other than "get shoes, sing Dixie and kill Feds". Constantly used "muh Virginia" as an excuse for his motivation to fight, and yet totally failed to protect Richmond or prepare a war economy that wasn't based on pillaging.
The other was just lucky until he got shot by accident by a bunch of trigger happy illiterate sister fucking rednecks - im sorry, the glorious, undefeated Confederate Army.
>>1035806
>implying she didn't inspire the greatest album ever
>>1034059
I am just glad that he didn't live enough to see Nikos' banter party in 1974.
He destroyed the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.
>>1041165
>whole military was outnumbered
>somehow managed to hold his own
>never terrorized civilians of the north
or
>had crazy numerical advantage
>no real goal other than tear shit up
Sherman was an idiot
>>1042870
If it's stupid and it works, it isn't stupid.
>>1038001
They should not live in poverty. Indonesians is huge and resourceful. The US staged Suharto's reign because he want their shit and that's why Indons were poor.
At least now Jokowi tries to fix it. They already say fuck you to the US owning some oil business in Indonesian side of Papua because his people sell out.
>>1035896
Strange to see this nigga here, wasn't expecting... But good one
Gough Whitlam. Ned Kelly was already mentioned, so.
>>1035184
If you hate isolationism, you should hate wilson, because all of his foreign policy decisions were a long term catastrophe.
Thanks to him, austria-hungary was dismantled, leaving a bunch of weakling states to be easily chewed up by germany. And even though he described the german annexation of alsace-lorraine as having "unsettled the peace of the world for nearly fifty years", he insisted on the creation of the polish corridor, which was even worse in that regard.
>4/5 general
>not even the president
>greatest finn :^)
>>1035410
As a Dane i disagree. People don't really talk about him nor worship him. And he did help the kz prisoners from Denmark. Plus he got exiled after the war. He is mentioned as much as Herluf Trolle.
>>1041034
was he incompetent? i always thought he was a good general who beat the japanese in china is that not that case?
>>1034860
Yes, I also remember how Indonesians had fancy suits and leather shoes way before the Dutch came about!
>>1036298
>Indonesians
>almost exclusively non-Muslim
This is heaven. This is where I'll go... if I had money and not a poor-as-shit Indonesian.
>>1043649
>Indonesia is huge and resourceful
>Indonesia
>huge
>resourceful
Huge in terms of landmass, which is mostly taken up by homes since there's a shittonne of people. And the resources are mostly unused nature which the people are too retarded to actually benefit from. I admit, Jokowi is doing some shit in this run, but it's not enough. Jokowi leans to a liberal-nationalist view, which means he's probably not going to restrain the people from having 12 babies per family. We need a socialist in the house.
>>1044958
You just said clothes and language, stop moving goalposts
>>1033926
what did he do
>>1044973
Try to claim that you're an atheist and gay, maybe they'll give you asylum
>>1034680
He wasn't called the 'Spanish Jew' for nothing
Lincoln
Rosa Parks
Malcolm X
FDR
BLM people
Ect.
>>1045137
>FDR
t. Calvin Coolidge
>>1035559
>In league with Robert Mugabe
>Despised the actually progressive and racially unified Botswana for being tolerant towards its white population
I wasn't big on Mandela anyhow, but this is new to me. Do you have any sources? I'm interested.
>>1045137
>Americans think BLM are national heroes
Is this is what people on 4chan actually believe?
>>1035184
no, you're just a pompous moron
>>1033942
This
1000 times this
>>1039970
>lack of freedom kills cultural export
Why do asians never learn?
>>1033873 #
Butthurt creole detected.
Mexico isn't a white nation never has and never will be, blame moor rape babies for being cucks and fucking the natives instead of killing them unlike our Anglo-Germanic ancestors.
The United States gov should have dumped off all our niggers to you fucks after the Civil War.
>>1045308
Many people (liberals) actually do.
>>1034385
>adorno.jpg
>>1044354
It is not. He worked out of a centuries old battle doctrine that had his foreign advisers like Stilwell tearing their hair out. Half of the fighting he did was to retain power. Japan's reach simply extended beyond their grasp. China was too big to conquer.
>>1033903
australian history is weird, especially the glorification of the anzacs
>anzacs at gallipoli memorialised as legends for a century
>completely ignore the far larger swathes of australian soldiers that died in the somme
also:
>hurr durr anzacs on the shores of gallipoli died to protect our freedoms!
yeah, cause the ottoman empire, which was being torn about apart by decline, civil strife, and war was totally on the verge of conquering the continent of australia thousands and thousands of miles across the sea
>>1033919
we had to read some poem about him or some shit at school. I still remember the names of the 3 troopers he murdered, scanlan or something. why is he idolised for murdering 3 innocent people?
>>1033942
George HW Bush ran the country for the entirety of the Reagan presidency. Reagan was just a figurehead with onset of alzheimrs who had to stand there, say some folksy feel-good american values crap, and look good.
>>1045025
he dindu nuffin
>>1033853
>wins battle by sneaking up on sleepy hessians
>wins second battle with french ground forces and naval support
>treated like jesus
just way too overated
>>1045968
oh shit i had no idea did he do good stuff when he was in charge of taiwan?
Louis Riel
Fuck that guy
>>1034841
If death means nothing to them like islamists or people with a martyrdom complex then killing them is exactly what they want
>>1035559
>>In league with Robert Mugabe
>>Despised the actually progressive and racially unified Botswana for being tolerant towards its white population
proofs?
>>1035489
Lol the Apartheid government killed civilians lol that's why the Apartheid blew up so much. Have you ever heard of the fucking Sharpeville massacre or the Soweto uprising or Bisho massacre?
Also when did he bomb a school bus?
>>1034987
ITS THE CURRENT YEAR SHITLORD
>>1033942
Are you me? He was a shitty president. I still don't understand why conservatives jack off to him, especially because they'd call him too liberal now.
>>1038864
>hated the national bank and currency
>on the fucking 20 dollar bill
issues fines to his combat troops for not wearing a tie
>>1034898
>directly responsible for out current economic problems
fucking conservatives lmao
>>1046340
To be fair he is more renowned for keeping the continental army (and thus the revolution) alive during the many times it was on the brink of collapse rather than his military prowess.
>>1037817
He was a dumb cunt who teased crocs for a living.
>>1035316
>Nasser
>not absolute shit
>>1049665
*promoted conservation for a living
FTFY
>>1034958
This utter cunt is one of the main reasons behind Austria-Hungary disintegrating. I hope he burns in hell.
>>1034586
i am hurt
This cuck.
>>1034898
Objectively, a great President. But believe what you want
>>1045042
Well, I'm agnostic and gay. Does that count?
>>1045014
No, I was just knocking off the point where you implied the clothes Soekarno wore weren't brought by the Dutch.
